Very good Near death experience

[mikekle]

I came across this while reading some other NDEs, this guy lived pretty close to where I do, but I do not know him. While it is fairly long, it is a great account of what this guy went thru and had a great ending. It all tends to make sense as well.

near-death.com/storm.html

 

[suko]

I thought this part of the article was interesting where Howard states:

I asked them, for example, which was the best religion. I was looking for an answer which was like, “Presbyterians.” I figured these guys were all Christians. The answer I got was, “The best religion is the religion that brings you closest to God.”

I’ve read and seen a lot of near-death experience accounts, and there’s quite a number of them that don’t specifically guide people to the Catholic Church; some do and some don’t (and some I think are purely diabolical, or possibly made-up). But it seems like many of them have a profound experience that seemingly changes their life for the better, and brings them closer to Jesus, and they become a much more loving and compassionate person, and filled with a sense of peace that they never had before.

I’m kinda under the impression that God sometimes (not always of course) does lead people to other Christian religions, if, and only if, that person will be able to spread the love of God in a more profound and effective manner.

Also, I thought it’s noteworthy to point out in the article where Howard asks what happens when we die, and the response he got from the “light beings”:

I asked my friend, and his friends, about death - what happens when we die?

They said that when a loving person dies, angels come down to meet him, and they take him up - gradually, at first, because it would be unbearable for that person to be instantly exposed to God.

Knowing what’s inside of every person, the angels don’t have to prove anything by showing off. They know what each of us needs, so they provide that. In some cases it may be a heavenly meadow, and in another, something else. If a person needs to see a relative, the angels will bring that relative. If the person really likes jewels, they will show the person jewels. We see what is necessary for our introduction into the spirit world, and those things are real, in the heavenly, the divine sense.

They gradually educate us as spirit beings, and bring us into heaven. We grow and increase, and grow and increase, and shed the concerns, desires, and base animal stuff that we have been fighting much of our life. Earthly appetites melt away. It is no longer a struggle to fight them. We become who we truly are, which is part of the divine.

To me, this almost sounds like the spirit beings are describing something like a purgatory (without using the term).

But anyway, if Howard can love the Lord and spread His love in an effective manner that brings others to Christ, then that’s awesome!

Lastly, I like Fr. Jose Maniyangat personal testimony better, though (since it’s quite a bit more Catholic oriented ):

youtube.com/watch?v=0VCsJ5TiT-Y

 

[dailey]

I just looked over it, not feeling comfortable with some of the things he says. Did he say that the new world will happen in 2 hundred years?

 

[suko]

I just looked over it, not feeling comfortable with some of the things he says. Did he say that the new world will happen in 2 hundred years?

Yeah, I’m not exactly comfortable with that New World Order business either (and some other things about the future).

But I did take notice about all the good things that were said in Howard’s life review. And I think because of that, he has learned (I hope) the importance of being a more loving and compassionate person, which will certainly benefit him and allow him to be a better witness of Christ’s love to others, which I think might be the most important thing about his experience.

 

[kingston1]

Reminds me of the parable of the workers in the vineyard. Those who start at the last hour of the day receive the same wages as those who worked all day.

It also reminds me of when Jesus said the with God all things are possible and the only unforgivable sin is to reject the holy spirit. The spirit according to him called to him as he were being devoured by demons and he cried out to God in whatever way he knew how.

 

[Mr_Clean]

Not a very good nde. I’ve been a bit of a nde junkie over the years and imho it’s a satanic trap. If that seems extreme to you then I recommend you listen to the mp3 recordings at the bottom of the article. He talks about Messiahs (plural) and reincarnation, and all kinds of new age crapola.

I’ve read alot of these and really got into nde to the point I had a major crisis of faith. They frequently gloss over Jesus if he is mentioned at all. Hell and satan are not real places or they are only temporary at most. In the end everything will work out for you - God will just keep shipping you off to one “school” after another until your vibration comes into alignment with His, etc …

Sorry folks, its another Jesus not the real Jesus.

 

[brian614]

I thought this part of the article was interesting where Howard states:

I’ve read and seen a lot of near-death experience accounts, and there’s quite a number of them that don’t specifically guide people to the Catholic Church; some do and some don’t (and some I think are purely diabolical, or possibly made-up). But it seems like many of them have a profound experience that seemingly changes their life for the better, and brings them closer to Jesus, and they become a much more loving and compassionate person, and filled with a sense of peace that they never had before.

I’m kinda under the impression that God sometimes (not always of course) does lead people to other Christian religions, if, and only if, that person will be able to spread the love of God in a more profound and effective manner.

Also, I thought it’s noteworthy to point out in the article where Howard asks what happens when we die, and the response he got from the “light beings”:

To me, this almost sounds like the spirit beings are describing something like a purgatory (without using the term).

But anyway, if Howard can love the Lord and spread His love in an effective manner that brings others to Christ, then that’s awesome!

Lastly, I like Fr. Jose Maniyangat personal testimony better, though (since it’s quite a bit more Catholic oriented ):

youtube.com/watch?v=0VCsJ5TiT-Y

I really like the link!

 

[thistle]

I came across this while reading some other NDEs, this guy lived pretty close to where I do, but I do not know him. While it is fairly long, it is a great account of what this guy went thru and had a great ending. It all tends to make sense as well.

near-death.com/storm.html

I do not believe any NDE is real. Its down to hallucinating, drugs, dreaming, imagination or downright lying.

 

[weller2]

I do not believe any NDE is real. Its down to hallucinating, drugs, dreaming, imagination or downright lying.

A standard example is the NDE of Carl Jung (the psychiatrist). Here’s his account from the site linked above:

It seemed to me that I was high up in space. Far below I saw the globe of the Earth, bathed in a gloriously blue light. I saw the deep blue sea and the continents. Far below my feet lay Ceylon, and in the distance ahead of me the subcontinent of India. My field of vision did not include the whole Earth, but its global shape was plainly distinguishable and its outlines shone with a silvery gleam through that wonderful blue light. In many places the globe seemed colored, or spotted dark green like oxidized silver. Far away to the left lay a broad expanse - the reddish-yellow desert of Arabia; it was as though the silver of the Earth had there assumed a reddish-gold hue. Then came the Red Sea, and far, far back - as if in the upper left of a map - I could just make out a bit of the Mediterranean. My gaze was directed chiefly toward that. Everything else appeared indistinct. I could also see the snow-covered Himalayas, but in that direction it was foggy or cloudy. I did not look to the right at all. I knew that I was on the point of departing from the Earth.

Now, remember that it was in 1944.

It is highly unlikely that Jung’s brain could generate a realistic image of Earth as seen from several hundred kilometers above Ceylon. The reason for this is that the image of Earth from such vantage point does not correspond to any commonly used map projection. Another indicator are the colors – he descibes Saudi Arabian desert as reddish, while maps draw it as yellow. And this is how the Red Sea region looks like when photographed from a Space Shuttle (using a normal camera used for mission documentation):

http://media3.washingtonpost.com/wp...GAL-09May13-2020/media/PHO-09May13-161789.jpg

That’s red, brown even. Even on photos which show it as yellow, the red tint is clearly visible.

But the dead giveaway is the bolded part. The fact that Earth as seen from space is surrounded by a bluish glow was not known until Gagarin’s flight in 1957. And it did not enter public knowledge immediately, due to the limited number color photographs taken in low Earth orbit, and even more limited distribution thereof (color printing was expensive). Even 2001 Space Odyssey shot in 1968 gets it wrong, i.e. shows Earth without an atmosphere:



This has only became a sort fo public knowledge in the last two decades, due to internet distribution and a lot of photos taken in low orbits by the International Space Station crews, like that one:

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See that blue glow on the horizon?

So, yeah. You can say that Jung was tripping on DMT, but it does not change the fact that, by any reasonable standard of evidence, he was in space.

Make of this what you will.

 

[Deanne76]

Not a very good nde. I’ve been a bit of a nde junkie over the years and imho it’s a satanic trap. If that seems extreme to you then I recommend you listen to the mp3 recordings at the bottom of the article. He talks about Messiahs (plural) and reincarnation, and all kinds of new age crapola.

I’ve read alot of these and really got into nde to the point I had a major crisis of faith. They frequently gloss over Jesus if he is mentioned at all. Hell and satan are not real places or they are only temporary at most. In the end everything will work out for you - God will just keep shipping you off to one “school” after another until your vibration comes into alignment with His, etc …

Sorry folks, its another Jesus not the real Jesus.

Mr Clean - I had a NDE after a traumatic car accident, and while very brief, it was very real to me. I did see a bright light and felt myself being “lifted” to the light, but then my dad came and I felt him push me back down to my earthly body and tell me “not now”, so I have to disagree with your statement.