Very upset please help

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Hoosier_Daddy said:
This does not make sense to me. The Church would recognize any baptism from other protestant denominations, the Church would also direct any single one of us to baptize the OP if we came across her in an automobile accident and she was close to death. Since baptism saves, and she needs that no matter what her marital situation. Why would she be denied baptism?

The Church saw fit to baptize the children.🤷
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Well, I was baptized at a Protestant church when I was still an infant 🙂 baptism in Protestant church is valid because its baptism is in the name of Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
 
Hang in there Madlady, it really will all work out!

808Catholic and Hoosier Daddy – Why don’t one of you start a new topic. I would be very uncomfortable saying things AS IF they apply to Madlady – since this is her topic. Start a new topic about a theoretical unbaptized person married to a Catholic outside the Church and we can talk about this theoretical person and their situation. OK?
 
To the poster:

continue with your RCIA and continue to pray 🙂 there’s always a way. God bless!
 
Vanez said:
To the poster:

continue with your RCIA and continue to pray 🙂 there’s always a way. God bless!
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The way that this could be handled was already pointed out, if you read the whole thread.

Peace,

Dorothy
 
Dorothy said:
The way that this could be handled was already pointed out, if you read the whole thread.

Peace,

Dorothy
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What is wrong with writing it again?. I was encouraging her! 😉 of course it could be handled, of course it’s already pointed out, i still think there’s nothing wrong to encourage someone again, better than discussing something that’s OOT, right? 😃
 
808Catholic said:
This woman was married outside the Catholic church so I understand their marriage is not valid in the eyes of the church
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It seems if the husband (to-be) had been non-Catholic, the marriage would have been valid, though obviously not sacramental.
 
ProVobis said:
It seems if the husband (to-be) had been non-Catholic, the marriage would have been valid, though obviously not sacramental.
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Exactly. Non-Catholics are not required to follow Catholic rules on marriage.
 
Vanez said:
What is wrong with writing it again?. I was encouraging her! 😉 of course it could be handled, of course it’s already pointed out, i still think there’s nothing wrong to encourage someone again, better than discussing something that’s OOT, right? 😃
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Yes, that is right…sorry. I thought you hadn’t read about the radical sanation explanation.
 
Thankyou all for your very kind words.
Great news… hubby has agreed to marry me in our church and he even apologised! Im so happy and excited. Thankyou God. Xxx
 
madlady86 said:
Thankyou all for your very kind words.
Great news… hubby has agreed to marry me in our church and he even apologised! Im so happy and excited. Thankyou God. Xxx
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Absolutely wonderful news! I’m so happy to hear this!
 
madlady86 said:
Thankyou all for your very kind words.
Great news… hubby has agreed to marry me in our church and he even apologised! Im so happy and excited. Thankyou God. Xxx
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What wonderful news!
I think there maybe some confusion of terminology but I get what you are trying to say.

Question? The Church wants you to partake in a sacrament before you partake in baptism? I was unaware this was possible.
 
madlady86 said:
Thankyou all for your very kind words.
Great news… hubby has agreed to marry me in our church and he even apologised! Im so happy and excited. Thankyou God. Xxx
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Ah, fantastic! I’ve been following this thread and am so happy to hear the good news!
 
madlady86 said:
Thankyou all for your very kind words.
Great news… hubby has agreed to marry me in our church and he even apologised! Im so happy and excited. Thankyou God. Xxx
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God continues to bless His faithful! Be a light to the world. God Bless you.👍
 
Hoosier_Daddy said:
What wonderful news!
I think there maybe some confusion of terminology but I get what you are trying to say.

Question? The Church wants you to partake in a sacrament before you partake in baptism? I was unaware this was possible.
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The sacrament of marriage is between the two parties of the marriage, the Church in the form of the priest is a witness. With permission, a Catholic may marry an unbaptized person – this is a natural marriage, thus the OP can marry before completing RCIA. When the lady in question is baptized, it will then be a sacramental marriage.

(This is assuming the OP’s husband IS Catholic, something I was unable to determine from her original post.)
 
Magdalen2013 said:
The sacrament of marriage is between the two parties of the marriage, the Church in the form of the priest is a witness. With permission, a Catholic may marry an unbaptized person – this is a natural marriage, thus the OP can marry before completing RCIA. When the lady in question is baptized, it will then be a sacramental marriage.

(This is assuming the OP’s husband IS Catholic, something I was unable to determine from her original post.)
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Person A is not Catholic
Person B was/is Catholic.
They have a sort of civil marraige.
The children of A and B are baptized Catholic and in Catholic school.
Person A wants to become Christian/Catholic Wants to be baptized and confirmed and married in the Church.
Why in the world would anyone have to do anything in the Church i.e. marraige to then gain access to the gateway sacrament for baptism?

This question is academic because barring death before her husband can consent to this regularization of marriage this will all be solved. But it seems backwards to me.
Pope Francis has spoken of baptizing freely and has done so himself to others that may be seen as questionable.
 
Hoosier Daddy,

Take a slightly different scenario.

A and B are living together without being married. A wants to be baptized. Should they change their living situation before A is baptized? Or are they just fine as things stand?
 
marlap2 said:
There’s nothing stopping you from attending RCIA, growing and living your faith. Of course the fullness of all the sacraments await, but not yet.
I’m thinking this… if you don’t go to RCIA, you won’t learn about the faith, your husband will breathe a sigh of relief maybe, and the status quo will be the status quo.
If you DO go to RCIA, you will learn about the richness of the faith, how to pray with a deepness you’ve never experienced, experience Jesus (if not in the sacraments, you can still spend time in the Blessed Sacrament as MUCH as you want) You will also show your husband and others how big your faith is. Don’t let anyone deter you from growing in holiness. Yes, it’s true, you will have to go through some things before you can receive all the sacraments, and your husband will have to go to confession, you’ll have a period of “difficulty” while you await your marriage being regulated, but it’s worth it.

I taught RCIA for years, and there was a woman and her to-be-husband for THREE years attended, and persevered. I attended their wedding, and her sacraments. How wonderful it all was…

Praying for you to have extraordinary perseverence and a supernatural faith, and for your husband’s heart to soften…/

Bless you.
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SuscipeMeDomine said:
Hoosier Daddy,

Take a slightly different scenario.

A and B are living together without being married. A wants to be baptized. Should they change their living situation before A is baptized? Or are they just fine as things stand?
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So one must be in a converted state of grace to be baptized?
 
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