Victoria's Secret

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Lorrie:
You obviously don’t shop at VS, most of their items are extremely tasteful and their quality is impeccable. Buy something at JC Penney and not only will it look like it came from JC Penney but it will also be unwearable in just a few months because of poor quality.
I never meant that VS doesn’t have tasteful lingerie - I obviously think they do or I wouldn’t have been tempted to shop there. I was replying in reference to the poster who said: “And, come on, does anyone really believe that people buying lingerie have strictly “savory” intentions. If you want to stay “savory” buy cotton nightgowns and wear sweatsocks to bed.” I was trying to imply that one can wear lingerie and still be savory, or tasteful. There is nothing trampy in tasteful lingerie.

And when I said that VS is trashy, I didn’t necessarily mean ALL their products - I just meant the company as a whole. Their ads leave NOTHING to be desired.

I own about 7 pieces of JCPenney lingerie. I wear them often, though not every night. I’ve had them for 3 years, and all are still in mint condition!
 
I bought my 78 year old mother a lovely pair of flannel pj’s from VS for Christmas this year!. She loved them!

Peace,
MSGirl ❤️
 
**Boy, did this thread get a bit off track!😉 **

Poor girl just wants to look sexy and adorable for her hubby on their honeymoon and wondered if buying lingerie at Victoria Secret would be “wrong”.

Buying lingerie from anywhere is not wrong. There have been entire huge threads devoted to our responsibilities as consumers when it comes to spending our money and who should and shouldn’t get it. Unless you are directly contributing to something immoral (paying for a stripper or something) things aren’t so clear.

We are called to use our own individual informed consciences to make our decisions and should not be dictated to by others.

If you choose to not shop at VC for whatever reason, that is your choice. But it is also a free choice for those who do.

**We should try to offer the OP some useful advice. I personally bought my honeymoon attire at a specialty ligerie store and was not impressed with it. I think it was poor quality and overpriced. Now I buy lingerie from wherever, lol. If it looks good, fits well, and is affordable, it’s mine. So my advice is to shop around. Go everywhere from department stores to VC and choose what appeals to you. And above all, make sure it is COMFORTABLE!!! **

Malia


 
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beckyann2597:
BryPGuy89,
Start another thread to discuss whether or not VS supports PP or even has an opinion on abortion as a corporation. Stay on topic, and if you do bring up a ridiculous allegation, then back it up with some facts. I did my own search on VS, PP, and abortion and found no fact in your statement. All you have to do is do a search on google before you spout off.
lo siento!!! Sorry, just sharing the facts that that I hear from the news. I don’t know maybe you don’t watch the news, but that was something that made a big fuss about a year ago. No need to come off so strong against me, hope I didn’t say something offensive or something.

P.S. I don’t think I was off topic of the thread, maybe the conversation you were having, but no more than that. I was just answering the thread question.
 
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beckyann2597:
And about my earlier post, I didn’t mean for it to be uncharitable, but to the point and brief. I do get a little ticked when I see libel, so that must have come through in my statement. I still haven’t found anything in my google search. But seriously, if there is something there, then someone really should start a new thread and post the link to the article. Again, not trying to be uncharitable, just making a suggestion!
 
I really appreciate the advice as well as the list of companies and organizations that VS gave $ too. I just may have to shop around some more to find something I like and only go to VS as a last resort. The big thing for me is that I am very slender so a lot of things at department stores are too big in one place or another and I got some under things at VS for prom once and it fit nicely. So, if I can’t find a good fit else where I’ll have to go there.
 
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migurl:
I really appreciate the advice as well as the list of companies and organizations that VS gave $ too. I just may have to shop around some more to find something I like and only go to VS as a last resort. The big thing for me is that I am very slender so a lot of things at department stores are too big in one place or another and I got some under things at VS for prom once and it fit nicely. So, if I can’t find a good fit else where I’ll have to go there.
Don’t let anyone make you feel bad about going to VS. Most men don’t understand how important under garments are to a women.I am an “Angel” card member. VS has the best stuff. I will not buy nor wear any thing from another store. They just aren’t the same quality. They really do have some nice outfits that not only look good but feel good so i don’t think your have a problem finding anything. Check out the website or just go to one of the stores. The sale people are knowledgeable and friendly. Just make sure you get a bra fitting from them because you’ll find out that you probally have been wearing the wrong bra size for awhile. The correct bra size can do wonders for your posture and getting rid of back pain.

I love these boards but some people get up on their high horses of do this or you can’t do that.Your bedroom behave is between you and your husband not the members of the board. The church doesn’t have an offical policy so your not committing any sin by getting clothes that fit. I think the church is happier that you are getting married and have saved sex for marriage then what your wearing when you and your husband decide to have sex.As long as you are open to life and such then don’t fret over the small stuff…Congrats on your marriage!
 
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beckers:
Don’t let anyone make you feel bad about going to VS. Most men don’t understand how important under garments are to a women.I am an “Angel” card member. VS has the best stuff. I will not buy nor wear any thing from another store. They just aren’t the same quality. They really do have some nice outfits that not only look good but feel good so i don’t think your have a problem finding anything. Check out the website or just go to one of the stores. The sale people are knowledgeable and friendly. Just make sure you get a bra fitting from them because you’ll find out that you probally have been wearing the wrong bra size for awhile. The correct bra size can do wonders for your posture and getting rid of back pain.

I love these boards but some people get up on their high horses of do this or you can’t do that.Your bedroom behave is between you and your husband not the members of the board. The church doesn’t have an offical policy so your not committing any sin by getting clothes that fit. I think the church is happier that you are getting married and have saved sex for marriage then what your wearing when you and your husband decide to have sex.As long as you are open to life and such then don’t fret over the small stuff…Congrats on your marriage!
AMEN!!!
 
I stopped shopping at VS after seeing the window display of two nearly naked female mannequins sharing the same bed. People complained, and the second almost naked mannequin was removed, but that was enough for me to realize that I could spend my money in better places.

And I don’t think anyone was trying to make the poster feel bad for wanting to shop at VS. They were just pointing out that VS may have some bad associations. There is nothing wrong with telling someone what a company supports or promotes and leaving it up to her to decide.

I also must say that no one was on a high-horse, except for those whose posts are just outrightly rude. This is, after all, a post in the MORALITY forum, so if people would like to share their own views on VS, they are certainly free to do so. Those of you who continue to shop at VS - that’s your business. Those of us who won’t - that’s our business. But in an open forum we both have a right to charitably say why we do or do not shop there, and why we do or do not think the poster should shop there. After all, she did ask.
 
I did ask! I am glad that someone pointed out why they won’t shop there! I could have been happy in my ignorance, but I had to know for sure if it was something ok to do. I have decided only to go there as a last resort since I know that they have sizes there that fit me right.
 
sanctareparata said:
www.limitedbrands.com

See who they give their money to - a very large portion went to the Gay & Lesbian Alliance.

I also found their name on pro-life boycott lists.

Are you saying that Limited Brands–makers of the young girl’s Limited Too line–supports this stuff? Do they also support pro-abortion causes as well?

If this is true, then nary a dime of my income will go to this establishment. :mad:
 
Yeah, my beef with V.S. has nothing to do with their support of PP or other organizations. It has to do with their in-your-face advertizing. And to that extent I think you would be a little more culpable for supporting them.

They have their fashion shows on prime-time TV? Window displays in malls?

Tell me how “indirect” your support is?
 
LIMITED BRANDS:
* victoria’s secret
* express
* bath & body works
* the limited
* c.o. bigelow
* the white barn candle co.
* henri bendel
 
Just to throw more wood on the fire…

I think there is an argument to be made for continuing to patronize Victoria’s Secret by buying only truly classy stuff from them. Perhaps if enough people buy only the nice stuff, then they will follow the dollar and promote the nice stuff more than the trashy stuff.

Also, rather than simply boycott them, perhaps we should tell the clerks what we like and don’t like about their products, their advertising methods, and the causes they support. Companies are all about making money, and they’re more than willing to accomodate their customers’ wishes if they think it’ll make them more.

In general, I think it is more productive to encourage people (and companies) in the good they do than it is to boycott them or criticize them for the bad things they do.

Certainly a truly classy neglige is a good thing. If we abondon Victoria’s Secret to those who buy only the trashy stuff then they will produce only trashy stuff.
 
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AnonymousOne:
Just to throw more wood on the fire…

I think there is an argument to be made for continuing to patronize Victoria’s Secret by buying only truly classy stuff from them. Perhaps if enough people buy only the nice stuff, then they will follow the dollar and promote the nice stuff more than the trashy stuff.

Also, rather than simply boycott them, perhaps we should tell the clerks what we like and don’t like about their products, their advertising methods, and the causes they support. Companies are all about making money, and they’re more than willing to accomodate their customers’ wishes if they think it’ll make them more.

In general, I think it is more productive to encourage people (and companies) in the good they do than it is to boycott them or criticize them for the bad things they do.

Certainly a truly classy neglige is a good thing. If we abondon Victoria’s Secret to those who buy only the trashy stuff then they will produce only trashy stuff./QUOTE]

What if both husband and wife LIKE it when she wears the trashy stuff?? Is this wrong??
 
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Catholic90:
What if both husband and wife LIKE it when she wears the trashy stuff?? Is this wrong??
Hmm… I was thinking the same thing. I’m sorry but pink and frilly doesn’t do a thing for my hubby. If being naked with your husband isn’t immoral (which it obviously isn’t) then whatever type of lingerie you wear in the bedroom shouldn’t be immoral either.

I do not agree with trashy lingerie in window displays because children do not need to viewing such things.
 
I concur with rayne89. Pink and frilly doesn’t do it for me either, and kids don’t need to see that stuff.
 
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Tietjen:
Wow, whether Bry’s post was based on fact or not, your’s was a little less than charitable. I know this post is off topic as well, but let’s not be rude about such things, shall we. God bless.
I disagree! That’s not a lack of charity and she was really pretty decent about it. One should ALWAYS check sources and be sure before buying into any allegation about anyone around here. It is a very common anti-Catholic tactic and those who fail to check behind them are often upset or misled.

As for buying your wedding night lingerie, I see nothing wrong with it. Your beloved will be the only man to ever see you like that and your are treasure to each other. Make the most of it and let shame and shyness be banished.

Read Song of Solomon…
Pax tecum,
 
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AnonymousOne:
Also, rather than simply boycott them, perhaps we should tell the clerks what we like and don’t like about their products, their advertising methods, and the causes they support. Companies are all about making money, and they’re more than willing to accomodate their customers’ wishes if they think it’ll make them more.
**Good idea, except that your comments/complaints/praise should go to someone in a position of power. The store clerks are just there to do their job (help you find things and ring up your purchase). **

Talking to them about what you do and don’t like about the products usually goes in one ear and out the other. Or worse, you become the customer that gets talked about by all of the staff.

So go ahead and make your opinions known… but make them known to the people who run the company and are in control of purchasing and marketing.

Malia
 
Feanaro’s Wife said:
**Good idea, except that your comments/complaints/praise should go to someone in a position of power. The store clerks are just there to do their job (help you find things and ring up your purchase). **

Talking to them about what you do and don’t like about the products usually goes in one ear and out the other. Or worse, you become the customer that gets talked about by all of the staff.

So go ahead and make your opinions known… but make them known to the people who run the company and are in control of purchasing and marketing.

Malia

I agree with Malia. I’ve worked in retail since I was in highschool. You want to speak to a manager or better yet corperate office when voicing complaints. Complaints to a sales cleark are being misdirected. Sales clerks have no power when it comes to making any changes and really after being on the receiving end of many complaints over the years you learn to smile ,nod and get on with your day. Company policies are made by the company not the sales clerk.
 
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