Vigil mass counting for 2 days? Epiphany Day of obligation

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The Epifany on the 6th of january is a Day of obligation. But i will have a hard times attending so i am considering going to the Vigil mass on january the 5th (Sunday). This is all good but since the Day before is a sunday that is also a Day of obligation. Does the Vigil mass count for both days? Or would i need to attend for example 16.00 mass for sunday and then again Vigil mass at 18.00 ?

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Epiphany is celebrated here in the States on January 5. No need to go again on the 6th, which has never been a holy day of obligation here. Here is the notice at USCCB. Note that the vigil of Epiphany is on Saturday, January 4.

Incidentally, next Sunday, January 12 is the Feast of Our Lord’s baptism, which is the official end of the Christmas Season and the beginning of Ordinary Time. (until lent begins)
 
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Ignatiusmeansfire said:
The Epifany on the 6th of january is a Day of obligation. But i will have a hard times attending so i am considering going to the Vigil mass on january the 5th (Sunday). This is all good but since the Day before is a sunday that is also a Day of obligation. Does the Vigil mass count for both days? Or would i need to attend for example 16.00 mass for sunday and then again Vigil mass at 18.00 ?

Best regards.
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Are you eastern Catholic or Latin Catholic in a country where Epiphany is a holy day of obligation? I am Byzantine (Ruthenian) and we have the obligatory dual Solemnities: Sunday (January 5) and Monday (Theophany, January 6). I looked and in the USA the Latin Church celebrates the Epiphany on Sunday. The evening celebration on the day before is acceptable to meet one obligation.
 
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Thank you for the answers. I live in Sweden, Roman Catholic. We do have the 6th of January as a holy day of obligation. So with your answers i guess i will be attending two masses in a row on the 5th of January. Feels weird but correct then. It is then acceptable to recieve communion two times also since it is considered 2 different days?
 
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It is then acceptable to recieve communion two times also since it is considered 2 different days?
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Yes, you can receive twice in one day as long as the second time is at a mass you are assisting at. Since that is the case here, you may certainly receive at both.
 
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It is then acceptable to recieve communion two times also since it is considered 2 different days?
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It is permitted to receive twice on any calendar day (midnight to midnight) as long as the second reception occurs during a Mass.
 
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Or would i need to attend for example 16.00 mass for sunday and then again Vigil mass at 18.00 ?
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Just to further clarify all the correct advice that’s been given above, ANY mass on Sunday or the evening before can count for your Sunday obligation, even if the mass celebrated is that of the Epiphany. In your example, the 16.00 mass may be such a vigil mass, so you’d be attending back to back Epiphany vigil masses.

However, when possible it’s preferable to attend the mass for Sunday and the mass for Epiphany to hear those readings and more fully participate in the Church’s liturgical calendar.
 
I have heard this discussed many times and have encountered it several times on CAF. The Church does not offer two for the price of one when it comes to fulfilling holy days of obligation.

I live in England and we have a rule that if a solemnity which is a holy day of obligation falls on a Monday or Saturday it is transferred to the Sunday, except the Lord’s Nativity. So, this year in England (and Wales, the Isle of Man and the Channel Islands) we celebrate the Lord’s Epiphany on Sunday 5th January 2020. So we don’t have two consecutive holy days of obligation.

Are you sure that where you live the Epiphany falls on Monday 6th January 2020 and does not get transferred to the Sunday? Does where you live have the precept or has it been removed? If it has it must be transferred to the Sunday.

If where you live the Epiphany is on Monday 6th January 2020 you have two obligations which must be satisfied by two Masses, one for each obligation. You may fulfil your Sunday obligation on the evening of Saturday 4th January or any time on Sunday 5th January. You can fulfil your obligation for the Epiphany on the evening of Sunday 5th January or any time on Monday 6th January. If you go to Mass on Sunday evening it will not fulfil both obligations. If you have two obligations you must satisfy both each with its own separate Mass
 
It happens every once in a while here. In Canada we only have two HDOs that aren’t transferred to Sunday (Epiphany is an example of a feast that IS transferred to Sunday here)… if Christmas and Mary, Mother of God fall on a Saturday or Monday, we here in Canada are required to attend Mass twice in a row two weekends in a row. On the flip side, when Christmas falls on a Sunday, there’s no additional day of obligation…
 
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Are you sure that where you live the Epiphany falls on Monday 6th January 2020 and does not get transferred to the Sunday? Does where you live have the precept or has it been removed? If it has it must be transferred to the Sunday.
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According to the liturgical calendar for Sweden, Epiphany is a non-transferred HDO. (Source: Universalis app and the Website of the Diocese of Stockholm)
 
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twf said:
It happens every once in a while here. In Canada we only have two HDOs that aren’t transferred to Sunday (Epiphany is an example of a feast that IS transferred to Sunday here)… if Christmas and Mary, Mother of God fall on a Saturday or Monday, we here in Canada are required to attend Mass twice in a row two weekends in a row. On the flip side, when Christmas falls on a Sunday, there’s no additional day of obligation…
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Some were not moved to Sunday, the obligation was abrogated for the Immaculate Conception, the Assumption, Saint Joseph, the Apostles Saints Peter and Paul, and All Saints. It’s been that way in Canada for over 50 years. I don’t remember how many HDOs we had prior to May 1968.
 
I think it’s a shame that St Joseph’s was abrogated as a HDO… he’s our national patron!!
 
Epiphany is not a Holy Day of Obligation here in the Philippines.
 
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