Vigil Mass - More Ongoing Problems

[pnewton]

katherine2:

Missalettes should be banned. The Gospel is to be proclaimed to the people not read by the people.

What about those who are hard of hearing? Sitting next to a noisy child? Or my favorite, a priest or deacon whose lacks reading skills and can not be clearly understood? I seldom read along (except when our deacon is reading the Gospel), but I do see many reasons to do so.

 

[puzzleannie]

I agree that missalettes should be banned, I remember the uproar when they were first introduced. Every Catholic youth should be given a Daily Roman Missal and instructed in its use, and instructed in the Mass, its prayers, rituals, purpose, and intensive instruction in the Eucharist. This is called liturgical catechesis (one of the most misused terms current in Catholic newspeak). I am doing my best to encourage parents to supply this as the best possible gift for first communion and confirmation.

 

[Galieo]

luke2219:

I get that same feeling. They don’t want me reading along so I won’t know what they are changing. I have my own missal that I bring to a parish that discourages the missalettes. This parish doesn’t change much. Only a few lectors seem bent on inclusive language, but the pastor doesn’t correct them. I just can’t see why some people get all bent out of shape because I want to read along with the reader.

Pax

Bingo! I agree with Luke2219 on this one. “Progressives” want to control not only what we hear from the lector, but what we read as well. All the easier to control you minds, sez I.

 

[katherine2]

puzzleannie:

I agree that missalettes should be banned, I remember the uproar when they were first introduced. Every Catholic youth should be given a Daily Roman Missal and instructed in its use, and instructed in the Mass, its prayers, rituals, purpose, and intensive instruction in the Eucharist. This is called liturgical catechesis (one of the most misused terms current in Catholic newspeak). I am doing my best to encourage parents to supply this as the best possible gift for first communion and confirmation.

On this I agree. Annie has hit on the cardinal principles of the liturgical reform.

 

[luke2219]

puzzleannie:

Every Catholic youth should be given a Daily Roman Missal and instructed in its use, and instructed in the Mass, its prayers, rituals, purpose, and intensive instruction in the Eucharist.

Right on! It completely agree. Although I wouldn’t stop at the youth. I think every Catholic youth, adult, priest, and bishop should have such an education. The missal can be optional, but I still agree that every child should be given one for first Communion.

Pax

 

[serendipity]

At least you still have vigils avialable in English. All our are now in Spanish. It would be more fair to have them in Latin!!! Let us all equally have to interpret things.

 

[Anna_Elizabeth]

+veritas+:

Were I you, I would quietly approach the pastor before the next meeting, and bring up your concerns. Rather than focus on the “legal” reasons why (which he could ignore and pass off as the complaining of a “troublemaker”) instead direct your concerns to the “pastoral needs” of the people – use all the touchy-feely language you can muster!!

Psychoanalyize the “effects” of what happened, and how the faithful were “emotionally hurt” by this, whether they knew it or not. Try to look at the readings again and come up with an aspect of God’s mercy and love that was not revealed to the congregation by the decision (that was well-intentioned of course) to muck up the sequence and confuse the heck out of them.

Sometimes I’ve found this “PC scare tactic” works the best of all…

Then, tell the priest you are planning to bring this up at the next liturgy meeting. Do so, and use an even more heartfelt “PC scare tactic” method, explaining why you feel the people were so hurt by this (don’t mention the Church’s wishes at all… terrorist liturgists don’t want to hear about the “Church” and what the “Church” wants.)
+veritas+

+veritas+!!! You are so right! It grieves me to tell you that this sort of thing works. When I’ve resorted to such methods, I’m not very happy about it, but PC tactics work especially well with people who are proficient at using them themselves and have the expectation that you will never use them.

Saving some of the best warm and fuzzies for the meeting will also introduce new unexpected concerns for which the previously alerted committee members will not have been prepared.

Pathetic? Yes.
Efficient? Yes

God bless,

Anna

PS This probably works best in areas of the country where PC is a normal way of life (such as our own, veritas!). A.