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Jim - You are absolutely right in that Ghandi would not have succeeded against the Nazis. No argument there at all.(Snip)
Ghandi succeeded against the British occupation by non-violent resistance. He would not have so succeeded against the Nazi’s who would simply have mowed down the non-violent resisters.
I am a little worried at a trend which would seem to make Catholicism into a pacifist religion. It is not. When the Faith is prohibited and the Faithful are subject to killing, will anyone fight back?
But also - consider this - just for a moment. The Nazis set out to exterminate the Jews. Even discounting the war, would they have been able to? Yes they could have killed all of the Jews in lands they controlled but would that have exterminated the Jews?
Surely - short of the Nazis controlling the entire world it would be impossible for them to completely exterminate the Jews. And NO governmental ideology has ever controlled the entire world.
You mention Cuba and you have mentioned Mexico. We can add Vietnam, the former USSR, Red China, Japan in the 16th -18th centuries and many others to the list of places where the church was either “outlawed” or persecuted - or still is.
Do you believe that any of these efforts has a chance of killing the Church - of stamping our Catholicism-Christianity?
The sufferings and deaths of individuals in one area only serves to strengthen the faith of others - either in that area or in other areas. The Church cannot be stamped out unless Christ lied to us…Do you believe He lied? I know you don’t.
Truly I am not trying to oppose you in this discussion. I understand what you are trying to say and I basically agree that there are times when there is simply no other option.
It is very sad to say - but true.
As I said earlier - this thread should inspire any who read it to work diligently NOW to maintain and promote the freedom of religion where ever they are by peaceful means so that we will never have to talk of war in earnest.
May all such conversations be like this one - academic.
Peace
James