Virgin Mary and a spider

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I was at a statue of the Virgin Mary and I saw a spider on her left hand. I went to squish the spider and it dropped down on a string of silk then I picked up the silk and the spider ran up the silk to my hand. So I shook my hand and It was gone. Is there any simbalism there or not? Does anyone know of a Virgin Mary - spider story?
 
I do not know of any similar story, but it is fairly possible that it have some personal meaning, if this speaks to you in some way! Often trivial things can open our eyes on greater matters.
 
I can only think of the spider representing evil. When you tried to squish the spider it ran from you but did not permanently leave. It tried to return but you shook it and it knew that you were still aware of it and it decided to abandon itself from you. Such is evil SATAN. He wanted you to be afraid of him but you decided to destroy him. He escaped from you but tried to return hoping you would fear him once again, but you were still aware of his presence and violently shook him so hard he gave up and left you alone. Satan is everywhere and wanted to scare you into leaving the statue of the Virgin Mary. You stayed with Mary and made Satan leave you. Because you had no fear of evil and would never abandon the Virgin Mary She looked down on you with love. The spider may return but so will you in prayer and love protecting your soul and your love for the Virgin Mary.
 
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I can only think of the spider representing evil. When you tried to squish the spider it ran from you but did not permanently leave. It tried to return but you shook it and it knew that you were still aware of it and it decided to abandon itself from you. Such is evil SATAN. He wanted you to be afraid of him but you decided to destroy him. He escaped from you but tried to return hoping you would fear him once again, but you were still aware of his presence and violently shook him so hard he gave up and left you alone. Satan is everywhere and wanted to scare you into leaving the statue of the Virgin Mary. You stayed with Mary and made Satan leave you. Because you had no fear of evil and would never abandon the Virgin Mary She looked down on you with love. The spider may return but so will you in prayer and love protecting your soul and your love for the Virgin Mary.
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That’s an interesting theory. Or…it could also be a spider hiding in the Church because it’s cooler than being outside? We get a lot in our basement. I’m sorry if I sound mean, but encouraging this kind of superstitious thinking is counter intuitive.
 
CCC 2111 Superstition is the deviation of religious feeling and of the practices this feeling imposes. It can even affect the worship we offer the true God, e.g., when one attributes an importance in some way magical to certain practices otherwise lawful or necessary. To attribute the efficacy of prayers or of sacramental signs to their mere external performance, apart from the interior dispositions that they demand, is to fall into superstition
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I do not see anything superstitious here…someone had what appears to many as a trivial experience, and is wondering if perhaps this can mean something despite its triviality 🤷 Why not? 🤷
 
I would caution you against overthinking on such matters as that could lead you to a superstitious mentality- not good. Sometimes killing a spider is just that… and nothing more.

By the way, I’ve had to kill two spiders in the past two weeks- one at home in my basement and one at work. Both were pretty big. Eeesh.:frighten:
 
I’m not too fond of spiders anyways :x I now proceed to set my mind on another topic before going to sleep :x
 
cessnawag said:
I was at a statue of the Virgin Mary and I saw a spider on her left hand. I went to squish the spider and it dropped down on a string of silk then I picked up the silk and the spider ran up the silk to my hand. So I shook my hand and It was gone. Is there any simbalism there or not? Does anyone know of a Virgin Mary - spider story?
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Hmm, I can’t help to think of the movie: “Therese” where St. Therese has to clean up the choir.

youtube.com/watch?v=lX5xaMHe9Y8

It’s about 5 minutes into the YouTube video

Here is the official Movie website:

stlukeproductions.com/therese/index.html
 
I once was kneeling in front of the Altar in the evening on my own when TWO large spiders came towards me from either side. Knowing I really don’t like them, I took it as the Lord’s sense of humour. Needless to say I continued my prayers from the safety of a couple of benches back!
www.divinemercypopes.com
 
cessnawag said:
I was at a statue of the Virgin Mary and I saw a spider on her left hand. I went to squish the spider and it dropped down on a string of silk then I picked up the silk and the spider ran up the silk to my hand. So I shook my hand and It was gone. Is there any simbalism there or not? Does anyone know of a Virgin Mary - spider story?
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I saw a spider on silk last night also. I saw it dropped on silk and grab a paper to catch it pinched it in hand.

O brothers sisters, If you still live with your mother, then when you see a spider you just use louder voice call ’ Ma ma, Ma ma’; she will come to catch it; still if you alone. Yourself can use a paper to catch it.
 
I saw a dead spider once, hanging from two long silks, one from the head of Jesus on the main crucifix behind the altar and I don’t remember where the other was attached, and dangling down about six feet so that it was hovering about 2 feet in front of and at the level of Jesus’ hips. :eek:

I tried to ignore it but once I did, a breeze would come along and it’s like those peripheral vision tests where something would shake around and get my attention. OMG I felt called to action and nobody else was in the church at the time; I was only in there to practice organ for Mass the next day. So I looked around and found a mop, and stood on top of the railing behind the altar. I was stretching all the way up and even hopping a little, and looking back I think at the time I was totally oblivious to whether I was going to fall. I was manic and in the middle of my Dark Night anyway, so I was certain that God intended me to deal with it, so failure was not an option. Finally I did get the little culprit. I didn’t know what else to do, so I bathed it in holy water before I placed it in the entrance to the church’s crawl space, in the air handler room, so it could be at rest with its friends. I didn’t think I couldt put it down the drain or toss it out after putting holy water on it. :hmmm:

Alan
 
goforgoal said:
Hmm, I can’t help to think of the movie: “Therese” where St. Therese has to clean up the choir.

youtube.com/watch?v=lX5xaMHe9Y8
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Thank you for sharing. I love how she swoops it out the door.

Both the Little Flower & the OP handled it more gracefully than I. Most likely would glance to the right, glance to the left, then yank off my shoe, chase that thing down & *splat *! Were I superstitious (which I have been, at times) I would still have chased & smashed it, only to feel weird about it later. :whistle:

OP cessnawag, I don’t know any Virgin Mary - spider stories, but am glad you were there. The Feast Day of Our Lady of Fatima ~ May 13th. Here is a link to a page on EWTN about the first Apparition of 13 May 1917 and there’s so much more to learn and love about Our Lady.
Blessings, CC
 
I dont think its really symbolic at all. I think it just so happened that a spider was a statue of Our Lady. I wouldnt be superstitious
 
SaintFrancis333 said:
That’s an interesting theory. Or…it could also be a spider hiding in the Church because it’s cooler than being outside? We get a lot in our basement. I’m sorry if I sound mean, but encouraging this kind of superstitious thinking is counter intuitive.
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Dear Saint Francis333, I agree with you. I got caught up in using the experience as a way of comparing an event to defeating evil. I was looking at it in an abstract way. I stand corrected. Thank You…
 
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I put only the white tail spiders outside on a mop and leave the tarantulas inside if they are happy to stay around the windows and on the walls in addition to the Daddy Long Legs. The Red back spiders I leave and do not touch on brick walls as they do not hurt or attack unless provoked. Had these living at my car door in and out for years without ever being threatened either way. I was bitten by a garden spider for the first time in my life back in January through my sandals; it throbbed until I asked Jesus if he could please take the pain away; in which Jesus did quickly; Praise and Thanks be to Thee Dear Lord now and for Eternity.

Each time a spider appears; Jesus sends money through for special Causes. Every time!
 
Having a fanciful story about a spider is not superstitious. It doesn’t have to “mean” anything, but it does trigger thoughts. And like a little child, it can be fun to put on our imagination hats and see where it takes us.

Now if I were to say, “because of that spider I know I’m supposed to quit my job today,” or “that tells me that I receive the Eucharist unworthily,” then that would be superstition.

The particular ideas and imagination it triggers are completely personal and individual. It’s like playing “word associations” except with ideas. We aren’t making life-changing decisions and saying “God must be telling me this,” in any serious way.

There is plenty of superstition to go around, and IMO a lot of it seems to substitute for sound doctrine; let’s not be too fearful about simply exchanging some light-hearted ideas. 😉

Alan
 
Yes, spiders (can) look fearsome but like any other creature God has created they do have their uses and they are good. 🙂

Not meant to take away from the OP but “Charolette’s Web” by E.B. White is one of my favorite classic books and films

harpercollinschildrens.com/HarperChildrens/kids/gamesandcontests/features/charlottesweb/default.aspx

And of course there is Miss. Spider from James and the Giant Peace

disney.wikia.com/wiki/Miss_Spider

Insect and Spider Identification:

insectidentification.org/

God bless,

goforgoal
 
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