Actually the thing is feminism crosses religions. So it can be more effective where note in the US there were things (name removed by moderator)lemented to keep cathokics out of pubkic office and such.
So a catholic man in america could experince back then similar restrictions to women.
So you can’t blame Catholiscm as failing to care when they didn’t even have the same rights the women have now.
And you are basically speaking like a gange mentality, hitching to the biggest person who can make you think you are safe now…
That my friend was left to her own devices to (by the grace of God successfully) hold out to keep her baby, because to the liberal state’s system her baby was “abortable”.
It was born “abortable” and just had a 1st birthday being a year of awesome.
Persobally however with all that protection offered I’d still rather die unprotected than go rob old ladies and jump and gang rape women. I may be wierd, but if standing at a decision of risking death in the hood or being part of raping and murdering, I’ll stand alone and go down swinging.
You need to relax lol
I’m talking about NOW.
We had this conversation before. I’m not gonna support contraception because they got me a job. I’m my own person and feminism isn’t like catholicism in the sense that I have to accept everything or else I’m a fake. I can agree with them on one issue and support them in it as a decent human being, and I can yell “are you crazy?!” when they bring up the free the nipple campaign. It’s not a cult, or a religion. The analogy of the gang is flawed because in the gang, you need to accept the evils, and if you leave, you don’t get the good. We honestly don’t have to. Some women may feel as if they have to because of the pressure to fit in, but they honestly don’t have to
Kind of like that feminist group. Can’t remember the name but like Feminists for life? I think? They aren’t wearing the “gang’s colors”. They are just a different gang, a good one lol.
The problem is that you view it as a “you accept the evils, or at least you will eventually”. Like you said, the right belief lies in the middle. What constitutes as the “middle” depends. Middle would be for example, women and men are able to get equal respect and both have the opportunity to pursue their passion (for example). Does that contradict the Church? Nopee.
But do people think of the religion when this is brought up? Nopee. They think of feminism. Because like i said, there are feminists whose beliefs are compatible with the church. The louder ones are people on jezebel lol
The problem is that people only think of the angry man hating feminists in 1st world countries! Would you honestly lump the feminists in India fighting for women’s education with the feminists fighting for the right to walk around topless bc “men can!!1”. If you do, the problem lies with you TBH. I can differentiate different groups of feminists. There are muslim feminists. They fight for equal respect but are against everything that goes against their beliefs. They are soo not the same as american feminists. They aren’t trapped or expected to agree with what american feminists want.
And I wasn’t talking about the past, I’m talking about now. If you want people to follow the church instead of following feminism blindly, we gotta stop dragging feminism like bitter old people and give them something better to follow. Like it or not, that’s how the majority think.
So, for example, when talking about pro life, we don’t just insult pro choice people, we talk about how pro life actually respects women, we help them throughout the pregnancy. If they need financial help, we help them. Instead of telling them that they are baby murderers and then when they keep their baby, we whine about how people on food stamps are lazy, and they are burdens (a little extreme but I have seen this mentality). The former is obviously more pro woman right?
If you see injustice against women, speak out about it, make it clear that as Catholics, we don’t believe in it.
Catholics need to be vocal in the right way.
Some may whine and be like “why should I? I’m not obligated to” but feminism started out as a small group against society. They wouldn’t shut up and now it’s all over the place.
Same with people in the church. If you want abortion numbers to fall, Catholics need to start taking a new approach and actually show how we are the better alternative, instead of expecting people to know this already.
I am sure you would rather speak about social issues women/the disabled/etc are facing in a way that’s compatible with the religion and influence people which will eventually lower the number of abortions
Much better use of our time than to drag feminists and just state that our religion is the best and expect people to “take your word for it”. If that makes sense.
