Visiting an Orthodox Church

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I am planning on visiting an Orthodox Church this weekend, because I have been curious what it would be like for a long time.

I know that there are differences in the Mass, and was wondering what some of these would be?

Thank you for any help!

P.S I will still be attending my normal Church also.
 
I am planning on visiting an Orthodox Church this weekend, because I have been curious what it would be like for a long time.

I know that there are differences in the Mass, and was wondering what some of these would be?

Thank you for any help!

P.S I will still be attending my normal Church also.
I have only been to one Orthodox Divine Liturgy. I would suggest going a couple of times to really get a feel of it. I was lost, but would love to go again and do hope to get to a Eastern Catholic Divine Liturgy the first chance I get. not one within 100 miles.
 
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Read the above link. It’ll help a bit. Also, enjoy the experience; i’ve gone several times and i have to say as a protestant(not sure i identify with that any longer) who is/was very lost, hurt, and confused; experiencing the divine liturgy had a profound and deep impact on me. One that still reverberates in my soul.
 
  1. No matter what time Divine Liturgy is expected to start, people will kind of trickle in anywhere from two hours before it starts to forty-five minutes after.
  2. The congregation as a whole will be dressed much more nicely than Catholics tend to be.
  3. There will be a side-by-side Greek (or Russian, or whatever language the church uses)-to-English translation for you to follow during the liturgy.
  4. You will be lost after, like, five minutes.
  5. Ten minutes later you’ll pick it up again.
  6. You’ll quickly lose your place again.
  7. This pattern will repeat one, possibly two, more times and then you’ll just give it all up for good.
  8. The service will last at least two hours.
  9. You can’t take communion, but at the very end you can take some other bread that the priest will bless during the service.
  10. You will note that the following musical instruments are not used: acoustic guitars, bongos, drum kits, tambourines, finger cymbals, harmonicas, pan flutes, spoons, jugs, paper-over-combs, or Fat Albert-style radiator/accordions.
 
One important thing to know, is that the Divine Liturgy is usually preceded by an hour to an hour-and-a-half service called the Orthros (or Matins). This is a prayer service conducted mostly by the reader(s), but also with a little bit of participation by the priest. People will not usually be there at the beginning of this service, they will come in sometime in the middle of the service instead.

If you decide to go to the church during the Orthros, just know that to walk into the nave while the six psalms are being read or the priest is censing the icons is usually considered poor form. If you walk in while these events are occurring, stay in the narthex and wait until after the priest finishes censing or the reader finishes reading the six psalms. The priest may also walk out into the narthex and cense the icons and any people who might be standing in the narthex at that time. Should that happen, stand reverently and cross yourself when the priest censes in your direction (this of course can all be avoided if you show up when the Orthros begins).

After the Orthros is finished, then Divine Liturgy begins with the priest saying, “Blessed is the kingdom of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, now and ever and unto ages of ages.” The Church will usually have an estimate of when the Divine Liturgy will start (the website will say something like Orthros 8:15, Divine Liturgy 9:30), although it won’t be completely accurate, as the Divine Liturgy starts whenever Orthros ends. It’s considered to be poor form to show up late for the Divine Liturgy, and it is strongly discouraged, even though you will see people who show up late (just like the stragglers who show up late for mass). The Divine Liturgy can last for an hour-and-a-half to two hours, depending on a number of factors.

The Divine Liturgy is divided into two parts, the Liturgy of the Catechumens and the Liturgy of the Faithful. The Liturgy of the Catechumens contains the epistle and the gospel reading, and usually the homily (although the homily may come before dismissal). The Liturgy of the Faithful is when communion is taken (of course, communion is only available for those who are members of the Eastern Orthodox Church). At the end of the liturgy, after the dismissal, the people may go up to be blessed by and to receive some blessed bread (antidoron) from the priest. All are usually welcome to take antidoron, since the antidoron is not consecrated.

You will likely get lost, but for the most part, it’s easier to just experience it the first time without trying to follow along hopelessly in with the rubrics. We use the sign of the cross a lot more than Roman Catholics do. People typically cross themselves whenever the line “Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit,” is said, whenever the trinity in general is mentioned, whenever the cross is mentioned, whenever the Theotokos is mentioned, whenever the priest censes in their direction, when the bread and the wine is brought out from behind the iconostasis, and sometimes when saints and martyrs are commemorated. Honestly, if you just watch what other people do and just try to follow along, you should be fine.
 
One important thing to know, is that the Divine Liturgy is usually preceded by an hour to an hour-and-a-half service called the Orthros (or Matins). This is a prayer service conducted mostly by the reader(s), but also with a little bit of participation with the priest. People will not usually be there at the beginning of this service, they will come in sometime in the middle of the service instead.

If you decide to go to the church during the Orthros, just know that to walk into the nave while the six psalms are being read or the priest is censing the icons is usually considered poor form. If you walk in while these events are occurring, stay in the narthex and wait until after the priest finishes censing or the reader finishes reading the six psalms. The priest may also walk out into the narthex and cense the icons and any people who might be standing in the narthex at that time. Should that happen, stand reverently and cross yourself when the priest censes in your direction (this of course can all be avoided if you show up when the Orthros begins).

After the Orthros is finished, then Divine Liturgy begins with the priest saying, “Blessed is the kingdom of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, now and ever and unto ages of ages.” The Church will usually have an estimate of when the Divine Liturgy will start (the website will say something like Orthros 8:15, Divine Liturgy 9:30), although it won’t be completely accurate, as the Divine Liturgy starts whenever Orthros ends. It’s considered to be poor form to show up late for the Divine Liturgy, and it is strongly discouraged, even though you will see people who show up late (just like the stragglers who show up late for mass). The Divine Liturgy can last for an hour-and-a-half to two hours, depending on a number of factors.

The Divine Liturgy is divided into two parts, the Liturgy of the Catechumens and the Liturgy of the Faithful. The Liturgy of the Catechumens is divided up into several parts. The Liturgy of the Catechumens contains the gospel readings, and usually the homily (although the homily may come before dismissal). The Liturgy of the Faithful is when communion is taken (of course, communion is only available for those who are members of the Eastern Orthodox Church).

You will likely get lost, but for the most part, it’s easier to just experience it the first time without trying to follow along hopelessly in with the rubrics. We use the sign of the cross a lot more than Roman Catholics do. People typically cross themselves whenever the line “Glory to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit,” is said, whenever the trinity in general is mentioned, whenever the cross is mentioned, whenever the Theotokos is mentioned, whenever the priest censes in their direction, when the bread and the wine is brought out from behind the iconostasis, and sometimes when saints and martyrs are commemorated. Honestly, if you just watch what other people do and just try to follow along, you should be fine.
Thank you so much for the advice! I will put it to good use!
The only other question I have is from what Crdl2Grv said:
  1. You can’t take communion, but at the very end you can take some other bread that the priest will bless during the service.
Is this correct? It sounds similar to communion, but that would imply that there are two separate Eucharists? Thank you so much!
 
Hi redratfish,
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The previous Orthodox poster did a wonderful job explaining the Divine LIturgy, but in response to your last question, the bread at the end of the service is NOT consecrated as the Eucharist is. It is blessed by the priest, but that is it. Definitely NOT a double Eucharist, so no worries on that score. We typically venerate the cross held by the priest at the end of the service and then take some of this bread (usually cut up, placed in a basket) on our way out. It is also very typical to  share it with ALL visitors, so please don't be surprised if someone picks some up and hands it to you even if you don't go up for it (it will usually be a nice little old lady doing this). We also have a tradition of blessing "prosphora" (this is what the Slavic churches call it), which are small double-tiered loaves of bread that we take home and typically eat a little of before the start of each day. Don't be surprised if someone breaks some off and hands it to you. Again, this is not a sacramental sort of thing, but one of fellowship. 

 Hope you enjoy the service and the experience. It is something more to let wash over you than to follow the rubrics of closely the first time, IMHO.
P.S. Having no idea of the church you are going to attend, it occurs to me I should add that traditionally the Orthodox have not used pews, though many in the USA have adopted the custom. If you go to a church w/o pews, you will see people venerating icons and placing candles and praying privately while the service is ongoing. There is a sort of theology of space going on here that is difficult to explain unless you experience it. But is is very different from most Catholic or Protestant services that I’ve attended, where people typically are seated or standing in fixed places and responding to the pastor/priest as warranted.
 
Hi redratfish,
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The previous Orthodox poster did a wonderful job explaining the Divine LIturgy, but in response to your last question, the bread at the end of the service is NOT consecrated as the Eucharist is. It is blessed by the priest, but that is it. Definitely NOT a double Eucharist, so no worries on that score. We typically venerate the cross held by the priest at the end of the service and then take some of this bread (usually cut up, placed in a basket) on our way out. It is also very typical to  share it with ALL visitors, so please don't be surprised if someone picks some up and hands it to you even if you don't go up for it (it will usually be a nice little old lady doing this). We also have a tradition of blessing "prosphora" (this is what the Slavic churches call it), which are small double-tiered loaves of bread that we take home and typically eat a little of before the start of each day. Don't be surprised if someone breaks some off and hands it to you. Again, this is not a sacramental sort of thing, but one of fellowship. 

 Hope you enjoy the service and the experience. It is something more to let wash over you than to follow the rubrics of closely the first time, IMHO.
P.S. Having no idea of the church you are going to attend, it occurs to me I should add that traditionally the Orthodox have not used pews, though many in the USA have adopted the custom. If you go to a church w/o pews, you will see people venerating icons and placing candles and praying privately while the service is ongoing. There is a sort of theology of space going on here that is difficult to explain unless you experience it. But is is very different from most Catholic or Protestant services that I’ve attended, where people typically are seated or standing in fixed places and responding to the pastor/priest as warranted.
Thank you for answering! I honestly didn’t think it was a second Eucharist, but wanted to make sure I would not be offending anyone by receiving what I wasn’t suppose to! 👍

I will keep what you said about pews in mind, I think the church I am attending does not have pews. If I am correct, is it more sitting, standing, or prostration? Sorry if I sound silly, I just want to try to follow as close as I can 😃
 
Your questions are not silly at all. I had to ask them too, but in reverse, when I attended non-Orthodox services:D.

If there are no pews, able-bodied people will stand for the entirety of the Liturgy, though there will undoubtedly be some chairs or benches along the walls for elderly/kids/people who have need of them. Use them if you need them, and let others cue you in to when to stand up or when it’s okay to sit again. It’s just sort of assumed you’re doing what you need to do given your circumstances, whether that be venerating icons, praying, crossing yourself (we cross ourselves right to left, but you should do it as you’re comfortable/ familiar with) or siting.

I’m assuming this is a service in English? Even if it isn’t, it would be the rare Orthodox church that did not have a service book translation to lend. (My favorite is somewhat dated, but it’s Isabel Hapgood’s wonderful 1906 translation.)

My best advice would be to not worry too much. Believe me, you will not “accidentally” take communion or anything similar. If the priest does not know you, he will ask if you are Orthodox if there is any chance of a mistake. Most Orthodox churches are very familiar with visitors.

God bless!
 
Thank you for answering! I honestly didn’t think it was a second Eucharist, but wanted to make sure I would not be offending anyone by receiving what I wasn’t suppose to! 👍

I will keep what you said about pews in mind, I think the church I am attending does not have pews. If I am correct, is it more sitting, standing, or prostration? Sorry if I sound silly, I just want to try to follow as close as I can 😃
If you go on Sunday, there won’t (or shouldn’t) be any prostrations (which was prohibited at the First Ecumenical Council), so it will be all standing.

I would also like to point out that traditionally, men stand on the right and women on the left. Like pews, however, many in America have abandoned this practice. Just keep an eye out that.
 
If you go on Sunday, there won’t (or shouldn’t) be any prostrations (which was prohibited at the First Ecumenical Council), so it will be all standing.

I would also like to point out that traditionally, men stand on the right and women on the left. Like pews, however, many in America have abandoned this practice. Just keep an eye out that.
Thank you for your response, If I notice the women and men separated, I will certainly follow suit! 🙂
 
Children of all ages will be in the service, including babies. In the Orthodox Church, members receive Communion from baptism on, which includes the babies. It can get a little crazy sometimes since children are in the services. Usually if a baby or small child starts crying hard, the parents will take them out til they calm down and then bring them back in. Personally, I love it and I wouldn’t want to go back to services without the children (I was Baptist before converting to Orthodox and we had children’s church during services). It can just be a little disconcerting to people who are not used to having children in the services (we do not have nurseries either).

As others have said, only Orthodox may receive Communion. Only priests distribute it. If a priest doesn’t know who you are and you come up to receive, he is going to ask you questions (this is why I’ve always been told that if I am visiting another church to email the priest and let him know I’m coming–I usually also go to Vespers the night before and introduce myself and do confession if he requires that for Communion). Also, the bread is put into the chalice with the wine and the priest uses a spoon to put it in your mouth.
 
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