Vocation Questions in relation to the Eastern Catholic Churches

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Hi guys. I am Roman Catholic but am very interested in the Eastern Catholic Churches. I plan on being a priest. What do the Eastern Catholic Churches say in relation to purgatory and the Filioque? I don’t want to have to leave these beliefs.
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Also, could I, theoretically, keep uniquely Roman Catholic beliefs as an Eastern Catholic?
 
John_of_Patmos said:
Also, could I, theoretically, keep uniquely Roman Catholic beliefs as an Eastern Catholic?
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I’m intrigued. If you’re so keen to retain Latin Catholic praxis why do you want to become an Eastern Catholic priest? Do you know there are 22 Eastern and Oriental Catholic churches? Thus, you shouldn’t expect a generalised answer regarding all of them.
 
Moreso what I am asking is if I can still believe the Filioque and in Original Sin/ the Immaculate Conception
 
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Moreso what I am asking is if I can still believe the Filioque and in Original Sin/ the Immaculate Conception
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As I said, Eastern Catholic are Catholics.

Now a specific question.

If you want to be an “Eastern Catholic” (which is a very diverse group as it is) why would you wish to hold to Western Catholic thought?
 
Matthew_Holford said:
I’m intrigued. If you’re so keen to retain Latin Catholic praxis why do you want to become an Eastern Catholic priest? Do you know there are 22 Eastern and Oriental Catholic churches? Thus, you shouldn’t expect a generalised answer regarding all of them.
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Thanks. I am asking about the Italo-Albanian Catholic Church (Basilian monks of Grottaferrata). I really want to help reunite the True church with our orthodox brothers.
 
ByzCath said:
As I said, Eastern Catholic are Catholics.

Now a specific question.

If you want to be an “Eastern Catholic” (which is a very diverse group as it is) why would you wish to hold to Western Catholic thought?
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I hold these beliefs very close to my heart, but want to help end the East west schism
 
John_of_Patmos said:
I hold these beliefs very close to my heart, but want to help end the East west schism
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How can bringing Western thought into the Eastern Churches be a way to unite the Churches?

How as a priest in an Eastern Church would holding to Western thought help the members of that Eastern Church?
 
True. How well would a Franciscan be recieved in an orthodox country i.e. Russia? What about priest with biritual faculties? I am really just more interested in the Divine Liturgy aspect of Eastern Catholicism.
 
John_of_Patmos said:
Hi guys. I am Roman Catholic but am very interested in the Eastern Catholic Churches. I plan on being a priest. What do the Eastern Catholic Churches say in relation to purgatory and the Filioque? I don’t want to have to leave these beliefs.
Thanks

IC XC NIKE

Check it out: www.abbaziagreca.it/en/
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You have got the Catholic Orthodox Rite. The same like the Eastern Churches without the hassle of the Filioque.
 
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ByzCath-thanks alot! you helped me clear something up! I guess moreso, I want to be a Roman Catholic Priest w/ biritual faculties. Any suggestions on orders? It takes too long to become a Jesuit!😃
 
John_of_Patmos said:
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ByzCath-thanks alot! you helped me clear something up! I guess moreso, I want to be a Roman Catholic Priest w/ biritual faculties. Any suggestions on orders? It takes too long to become a Jesuit!😃
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Bi-ritual facilities would only be given if there is a need for such. You would need to discuss this with the vocation director and then in your on-going formation. It would eventually be up to your religious superior and an Eastern bishop whether or not you would be allowed to be bi-ritual.

I would not base any vocational decision on the basis of being bi-ritual someday as it may never happen. It is an exception to what is normal and I do not believe that a person who enters into religious life should be counting on the exception for their life.
 
John_of_Patmos said:
True. How well would a Franciscan be recieved in an orthodox country i.e. Russia? What about priest with biritual faculties? I am really just more interested in the Divine Liturgy aspect of Eastern Catholicism.
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While your interest in the Eastern Churches is certainly laudable, your approach does have at least one fundamental flaw: i.e. the exclusive interest in the Divine Liturgy. You must remember that our Liturgical Rites did not come about in a vacuum. They were formulated within a specific theological worldview (phronema), and in turn influenced that worldview. Interest in one necessitates interest in the other; otherwise one runs the risk of Latinization (or impromper “Byzantinization” of one of the other Rites/Churches). If you wish to serve Eastern Catholics - the Italo-Byzantines in your case - you must be willing to meet them where they are, respect their traditions, theology, spirituality, etc. Remember, you won’t just be celebrating the Divine Liturgy for them. You would also be called on to preach the Gospel, and possibly to give spiritual guidance. What kind of a pastor will you be if you don’t fully respect and embrace the Church of the people you may be serving?

Perhaps a better route for you, especially in working towards reunion with our Orthodox brethren, would be to remain solely Roman Catholic while at the same time studying and coming to a deeper understanding of Eastern Christianity, its similarities and dissimilarities to Western Christianity, and the most effective way to bridge the gap. 👍

Again, I must applaud you for having the courage to express your interest in the East and open yourself up to us here. I believe it shows you have a servant’s heart. That’s certainly a necessity for the priesthood, religious life, or even the married life. 👍
 
ByzCath said:
Bi-ritual facilities would only be given if there is a need for such. You would need to discuss this with the vocation director and then in your on-going formation. It would eventually be up to your religious superior and an Eastern bishop whether or not you would be allowed to be bi-ritual.

I would not base any vocational decision on the basis of being bi-ritual someday as it may never happen. It is an exception to what is normal and I do not believe that a person who enters into religious life should be counting on the exception for their life.
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It does not take long to be a jesuit.
It takes long to be a jesuit priest.
 
Thanks alot guys! Some time ago, I read about Conventual Franciscans working Russia. I am very intrigued with the Russian Orthodox Church, and the Russian Catholic Church. I feel like that might be the ticket.🙂

Also: the Maronite monks of Adoration.
Their vocations director said that all of the current monks are roman rite. Is that just an exception?:confused:

Finally, I guess I am a little confused (forgive my western ignorance): do eastern Catholics except the Immaculate Conception, with it being an ex cathedra statement?

FROM AN OLDER BOARD POST:

The only two ex cathedra pronouncements in 2,000 years have been the dogmas of the Immaculate Conception (1854) and the Assumption (1950)."

Catholicism for Dummies; Rev. John Trigilio Jr., PhD, ThD, Rev. Kenneth Brighenti, PhD; Wiley Publishing Inc.; Indianapolis, Indiana; 2003
 
ByzCath said:
I think it is the other way around.

One does not make solemn vows as a jesuit until after they are a priest.
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It is the other way around.
After novitiate (2 years) you take vows. And, that’s what matters, you are a jesuit.
The 40Jesuit who were killed on the way to Brasil and who are Beats were not priests.
 
Pfaffenhoffen said:
It is the other way around.
After novitiate (2 years) you take vows. And, that’s what matters, you are a jesuit.
The 40Jesuit who were killed on the way to Brasil and who are Beats were not priests.
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Yes, when one enters the novitiate they are officially of the Order, it is that way with all religious communities.

But some aspects of being in the Order do not come until after solemn vows.
 
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