Vocations: Later or Sooner?

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I guess this is comming from jealiousy. I feel that the older vocations are for one totally unappreciated. I feel that both are good but tend to feel that the older vocations are much better because no matter how old or young we only have today. Tomorrow is promised to no one. With that said it is very haughty to say that young is better. I do not know too many 18 year olds that know what bankruptcy is or what it feels like losing loved ones. i don’t think many 18 year olds know what it feels like to have to rely on their own and not have Mommy Daddy always there to help them out of the little scrapes and tight spots they get themselves into. It takes years of living to know what life can deal you. When I go see a priest I want an old one to talk to. He has been around. I really do not think younger is always better surly not when it comes to soul healing and counseling confession. If I were the Pope I would make the young ones go out for 5 years ON THEIR OWN!!! before entering the seminary in fact 30 should not be the cut off age it should be the earliest age to enter seminary period!!!
 
I believe people going when they are called is best. If they are called soon in life, that is when they should go. If they are called late in life, then that is when they should go. If it is truly God calling them, it will never be bad.
Yes. I’d let entry be based on the maturity of the candidates. If the candidate is not mature enough, then tell him to come back when he’s older. But let’s face it: some of us seem to have been here before, and are wise beyond our years. There is no reason to keep such a person out of the seminary, monastery, or convent, and in our day and age, and even much to recommend against it.
 
Just for the record;

I am nineteen years old.

At eighteen years old, I was living on my own. I had to wonder, every month, if I would literally starve to death. I struggled to achieve my A grades in school when I was often too hungry or worried to think.

I had provided my mother with resources to learn about chastity, and was wounded that year with the realization that two of my siblings – one younger, one older – had been brutally murdered before they were even born.

I had been a social action coordinator for a youth organization and I had helped to organize and run a conference for 100 Canadian Unitarian teenagers. That same year I left the Unitarian faith, despite how much I loved them, when I realized that to go to a UU service was to commit idolatry.

I had a working knowledge of a multitude of faiths and was yearning for God.

I had to struggle with the fear every night that if I didn’t make it home safe, no one would notice I was missing. I had to defeat my pride and turn to the food bank, the Church, my school, for simple necessities.

I had the experience of being promised $150 a month from my father, hoping over and over again that he would come through, when he only did maybe twice.

I learned that my mother’s boyfriend was emotionally abusing my younger siblings and had gone as far as hitting my nine year old sister in anger. I heard my mother tell that same sister that if she didn’t behave, he would have to leave for hitting her, so she had better remember that. I brought her back to my place to share my one remaining can of soup and I was the one to check for bruises on her face, hug her better.

I had already overcome the addiction of self-injury at the age of eighteen.

at fifteen, I had been chased down the street and attacked by a group of twenty-something boys – and was told by my parents that I was an adult, and to deal with it on my own.

my seventeen year old roommate from last year has had it even worse than I have – her parents receive disability from the government for the care of her and her siblings but spend the money on drugs while they go hungry. She tried to leave, but they refused to give her her birth certificate so she couldn’t seek government support – they still wanted that money.

they prevented her from attending school frequently enough that she lost her year twice in a row, yet she was blamed as being truant. she worried when she left that the next sibling in line, her sister, would receive the brunt of the abuse. she was struggling through a break up with her fiancée because she wouldn’t sign a prenuptial agreement.

others of my friends suffered – and persevered – through similarly harsh realities. all of them were under eighteen at the time.

that’s how it is where I grew up. the children are the adults, and there is no childhood – and there is no responsibility – and often it is without hope.

I grew up in Canada – but in the low income neighborhoods. we lived in the homes no one wanted built in their neighborhoods, for fear of having the property value of their houses drop. we lived in the area where abuse was common place, and the children who were brave enough to report their parents were ostracized and often thrown out in response. or simply threatened.

yet I persevered.

I am only nineteen years old. but I have had experiences in my life that I pray none of you have had. many of my friends have had those same experiences. most do not make it; many kill themselves, and others simply exist without hope.

those of us that do survive – and escape – are either too wounded to function at all, or only ever heal by the grace of God in our lives – and have only our faith to cling to.

Now that I am on my feet with a job, living with a Catholic couple who have shown me how a real family operates – I hope to study Catholic Studies at university, and then go to teachers college or maybe to work in missions with deprived children (I, of all people, should know the difference one good teacher or role model can make – it is immense – sometimes it is the only good thing a child has).

I know I have a waiting period, being a new Catholic. I still have so much instruction in my faith that I need to receive – so much I need to learn.

but please, though I know you’ll say my case is not common, do not assume that 18 years is not enough. God gives us the experiences we need, and the time that we need, and the grace that we need, to do exactly what he wants us to – when he wants us to.

and do not make the mistake of believing my case is all that uncommon – the only thing that is uncommon is for me to have survived and for me to have been blessed with the gift of faith, which has been and shall be my strength in all things.

with love, and faith,
Saoirse
 
Whether a person enters vocations later or sooner is up to God’s will. The best example of this is our current pastor (since Jan. 6, 2006).

At 14 yrs old God called him to the priesthood. He was puzzled by what he heard because he was an evangelical protestant!

After graduating from high school in 1962 he entered the Air Force for 4 yrs.

At 19 yrs old (1964) he entered the Catholic church.

After leaving the Air Force (abt. 1966) he went to the Bishop and informed him that he wanted to become a priest. The Bishop told him to go home and grow up.

He then went to college and earning an AA in 1968 and a BA in 1971.

In 1973 his brother-in-law committed suicide. Two years later his sister died of cancer. He became the adoptive father of his sister and brother-in-law’s 4 young girls. The next 16 yrs were spent raising them.

During this time he earned another AA degree in about 1980 and a masters degree in 1983.

When his youngest daughter married, he again went to the Bishop and asked to become a priest. The time the answer was YES. In 1994 he was ordained.

It still throws me off to hear him speak of his children or grandchildren as he is the first priest I have ever known that has children.
 
It’s interesting you would say that, as I feel that the younger vocations are totally unappreciated nowadays.
AMEN!!! 👍 👍 👍

There is a gargantuan underappreciation of young vocations these days, but it is an issue so often overshadowed that it doesn’t get nearly enough attention even amongst the most faithful Catholics. Such a shame…
 
I dissagree there is so much youth stuff in this country that it is over the top. I am now training Dressage horses. It isn’t enough that I lost 200 pounds in little over a year, It isn’t enough that with all the turmoil in my life that I over came the odds of ever doing anything. It isn’t enough that I mastered my instrument that i practiced many hours. It’s like ohwell that’s nice. See a kid clear a few fences and it is the latest rage at the farm. I feel that there is so much youth focus that the country has forgotten the older people. I am so tired of age everything is age age age. All you hear is (ladies and gents this golfer is about to make his shot he is about 3 yards from victory all he needs is this hole Yeah Bob and he is ONLY 21!!! ) I can’t see where the youth is underappreciated It’s the exact opposite. I see it in these forums the young the young. I go to a vocations director and it is the same old ****. I don’t have a 4 year degree I am too old. I am sorry I guess I am jealious. I wish I was a kid again and when it is shoved down your throat with the youth stuff it get’s kinda irritating. Go and look at a few orders there is a cut off age and it is way to young in my opinion. Nebraska has a cut off age of 40. I think that’s discrimination at it’s worse. when you are 18 you have 22 years before ever worrying about that little nasty problem. I just don’t see the underappreciation of youth. I see a major discrimination of older people and the elderly. we are thrown away like yesterday’s garbage. I am sorry the 35 to 60 age group is still young and have many years to contribute to the church. We are also living longer and longer. If a man goes to seminary even for 8 years at 40 he will be 49 when a priest if he retires at 79 that is 30 years of service that us as parishoners can really use right now. My opinion Scoob.
 
…Go and look at a few orders there is a cut off age and it is way to young in my opinion. Nebraska has a cut off age of 40. I think that’s discrimination at it’s worse. when you are 18 you have 22 years before ever worrying about that little nasty problem. I just don’t see the underappreciation of youth. I see a major discrimination of older people and the elderly. we are thrown away like yesterday’s garbage. I am sorry the 35 to 60 age group is still young and have many years to contribute to the church. We are also living longer and longer. If a man goes to seminary even for 8 years at 40 he will be 49 when a priest if he retires at 79 that is 30 years of service that us as parishoners can really use right now. My opinion Scoob.
Check out this Sacred Heart School of Theology shst.edu/index.html. “The Seminary’s primary purpose is the preparation of men of mature years and experience for Roman Catholic priesthood, both diocesan and religious, in accordance with the National Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Program of Priestly Formation, and other related Church documents.” The average age of the current seminarians is 48. The FAQ page discusses educational requirements and how to find a sponsor. On the Enrollment/Sponsors page you can see diocese and orders that have sponsored seminarians since 1996.

Sacred Heart School of Theology is where our current pastor went. He was ordained at 50 yrs old.
 
All you hear is (ladies and gents this golfer is about to make his shot he is about 3 yards from victory all he needs is this hole Yeah Bob and he is ONLY 21!!! ) I can’t see where the youth is underappreciated It’s the exact opposite.
I think that you are arguing against yourself. The fact that someone finds it notable that a young person could actually achieve illustrates that the youth really aren’t respected. Perhaps they are pandered to in many ways, but that isn’t the same thing.

Ultimately, you may be getting at something important, however, in that there is likely too much focus put on achievement and age, overall. But such is a larger human/cultural issue.

Now if I may comment this, as to priestly recruitment writ large, it seems that what is in vogue nowadays is for very little to be truly invested on the part of orders and dioceses. The most desireable candidate is the mid-life recruit (30s or older) who has experience in the world as someone who has “made it” and already has respectability and significance in secular affairs. A revert, perhaps, or someone who has had an experience/longing for something more. This person, naturally (in the eyes of those who decide), ought to have his college education completed, paid off, and perhaps he should have a graduate degree, a good career, and some money to take care of himself (or donate to the Church). Anyone who doesn’t quite fit this profile is seen as suspect and a chance that superiors might be afraid to take.

Naturally, young adults seem like decent candidates as they fresh and carry potential. Plus, they can maybe be more easily shaped your own way. So someone might give them a go. But what about anyone who isn’t at least 22 yet? (Let alone not even college age). How much respect do they get with regard to vocational discernment/formation/recruitment?

It appears to me that the truly young and some older persons (such as yourself), alike, are stuck in the same boat: overlooked, as you simply don’t fit a targeted profile which the people who recruit and train seminarians can identify with or find worth in developing.
 
The call is answered at different times by different people. My sincere hope is that all who apply to the diocese are shepherded well and that no true vocations slip through the net. We need our priests!
 
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