First, in both cases no sin was committed.
So you say. I am asking you to show me, in your sources, where that is stated.
I think voting for a third party is licit. I think attempting to limit evil is licit. So, does the Church.
You keep repeating yourself, but I made a simple request. Cardinal Ratzinger stated the following:
"A Catholic would be guilty of formal cooperation in evil, and so unworthy to present himself for holy Communion, if he were to deliberately vote for a candidate precisely because of the candidate’s permissive stand on abortion and/or euthanasia…
When a Catholic does not share a candidate’s stand in favor of abortion and/or euthanasia, but votes for that candidate for other reasons, it is considered remote material cooperation, which can be permitted in the presence of proportionate reasons."
The second part does raise the concept of proportionate reasons. But look at the first part. There are 3rd party candidates who take the Catholic view on abortion. But you argue that we should support a GOP candidate, even if he still holds an intrinsically evil position on abortion,
specifically because of the issue of abortion. In other words, if abortion is the
why of your vote, how does the first paragraph not apply?
Now look at Archbishop Burke’s argument:
“Thus for a Catholic citizen to vote for a candidate who supports abortion and embryo-destructive research, one of the following circumstances would have to obtain: either (a) both candidates would have to be in favor of embryo killing on roughly an equal scale or (b) the candidate with the superior position on abortion and embryo-destructive research would have to be a supporter of objective evils of a gravity and magnitude beyond that of 1.3 million yearly abortions plus the killing that would take place if public funds were made available for embryo-destructive research.”
opinionjournal.com/taste/?id=110005634
Are you claiming that the third party candidates are all supporters of “objective evils of a gravity and magnitude beyond that of 1.3 million yearly abortions”?
If not, how do you justify voting for an intrinsically evil position on abortion over a licit one?
Now, let’s look at what the USCCB has to say:
“When all candidates hold a position in favor of an intrinsic evil, the conscientious voter faces a dilemma. The voter may decide to take the extraordinary step of not voting for any candidate or, after careful deliberation, may decide to vote for the candidate deemed less likely to advance such a morally flawed position and more likely to pursue other authentic human goods.”
usccb.org/faithfulcitizenship/FCStatement.pdf
Again, we see the the concept of proportional reasons, but look at the criteria at the beginning of the paragraph: “When all candidates…”
But
all candidates do not hold intrisically evil positions on abortion. So, again, how does this make your choice licit?
As for applying reasons your argument can be used against you as you are the one claiming your interpretation is superior to Cardinal Ratzinger.
Actually, that is just plain silly. No one has sighted a statement from the Church that indicates that
not voting for intrinsic evil is a problem. You can disagree with my position, but since I make no compromise, the concept of “proportionate reasons” cannot apply (there is no proportional decision making involved).
I have never asserted that my interpretation is superior to that of the Church, or a prince of the Church. Quite the opposite, I repeatedly send people to the Church documents for definitive answers.
Also, my interpretation is not the subject, I’m asking you to show me
your interpretation, either in Doctrinal Notes from Rome, a statement for the USCCB on voting, or even the quotes from the college ordinary that you, yourself, have provided. So far, you have resisted doing so.
I am not arguing that you should not follow the absolute certainty of your own moral conscience. But I am insisting, that if you feel justified in promoting your position to other Catholics as a morally superior one, you at least show a foundation in Church teaching for it.
How is that a solution?
