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WanderAimlessly
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No shopping at Wal-Mart anymore
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TimOliv
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I’d stop too…
but shampoo is so cheap there…
Then again, I also shop at Barnes and Noble…
but shampoo is so cheap there…
Then again, I also shop at Barnes and Noble…
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WanderAimlessly
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Fortunately for me, there is not a Wal-Mart close by. I usually shop for that shampoo at Meijer. Meijer also has the jeans and pants I wear (both by Wrangler)
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Dale_M
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The organization that produced this book, St. Stephens’ Community House, began as an Anglican settlement house in 1962. But its been independent since 1974. I guess its like having a kid… you can only guide them so far, before they make their own course in the world.
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Catholig
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I dislike Wal-Mart already so I don’t think I’ll be doing too much shopping, however I did spend about a dollar there just in the last half hour. It was on a gift card though so in reality they already had the money. Does that make a difference?
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TimOliv
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I think when it comes to shopping from corporate giants we are struggling too much to find the moral high ground.
We don’t shop at Wal-Mart because they don’t pay their employees well, they don’t offer them benefits, overtime or many other perks we all consider standard. To top it all off, they stopped selling only things Made in the USA, and they sell stuff like this.
…but I repeat, I buy my books from Barnes and Noble. They don’t pay their employees much either and offer a plethora of books that could poison the minds of youth and offend even the most lax Catholic.
What are my alternatives? Instead of Wal-Mart, I could shop at target, which treats its workers the same way (though I think even worse), or run around to countless mom and pop shops and overpay.
For books, I could go to Amazon (which sells the same books) or purchase things from a Catholic only distributor. The only problem I have with the latter option is for research purposes I often need books that are not Catholic.
So how far do we go in making our statement about a company’s ethics? And if Wal-Mart is intrinsicly evil, where would you advocate going instead?
We don’t shop at Wal-Mart because they don’t pay their employees well, they don’t offer them benefits, overtime or many other perks we all consider standard. To top it all off, they stopped selling only things Made in the USA, and they sell stuff like this.
…but I repeat, I buy my books from Barnes and Noble. They don’t pay their employees much either and offer a plethora of books that could poison the minds of youth and offend even the most lax Catholic.
What are my alternatives? Instead of Wal-Mart, I could shop at target, which treats its workers the same way (though I think even worse), or run around to countless mom and pop shops and overpay.
For books, I could go to Amazon (which sells the same books) or purchase things from a Catholic only distributor. The only problem I have with the latter option is for research purposes I often need books that are not Catholic.
So how far do we go in making our statement about a company’s ethics? And if Wal-Mart is intrinsicly evil, where would you advocate going instead?
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carol_marie
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And don’t forget, wasn’t it Target that banned the Salvation Army bell ringers from standing outside their doors last Christmas?
Not to mention that Target has a terrible return policy. No receipt - no exhange… not even a different size.
I thought that Wal-Mart was a family-friendly store - (so long as you don’t have to work there?) because they sell lots of Christian books. I wonder if they put their gay porn manuals in the same section? Something for everyone at Wal-Mart…
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And don’t forget, wasn’t it Target that banned the Salvation Army bell ringers from standing outside their doors last Christmas?
Not to mention that Target has a terrible return policy. No receipt - no exhange… not even a different size.
I thought that Wal-Mart was a family-friendly store - (so long as you don’t have to work there?) because they sell lots of Christian books. I wonder if they put their gay porn manuals in the same section? Something for everyone at Wal-Mart…
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Catholig
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Target sells Birth Control, ECs, AND fund Planned Parenthood, but Wal-Mart does the same. And if that isn’t bad enough every major company on the market seems to organizations that support abortion as well…
My only idea would be to send a rosary (and a small prayer manual) to every CEO, and see if it changes them. But that’s all I got.
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WanderAimlessly
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**CORRECTION: WALMART USA, NOT WALMART CANADA OFFERING GAY TEEN MANUAL
**Yesterday’s LifeSiteNews.com story “Wal-Mart Hits Teens with Gay Porn How-To Manual” erroneously referenced the book as being available at Wal-Mart Canada. The book is available only at Wal-Mart in the USA. Wal-Mart Canada has said “This book is not available for sale in Canadian Wal-Mart stores and we have no plans to stock it.”
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**Yesterday’s LifeSiteNews.com story “Wal-Mart Hits Teens with Gay Porn How-To Manual” erroneously referenced the book as being available at Wal-Mart Canada. The book is available only at Wal-Mart in the USA. Wal-Mart Canada has said “This book is not available for sale in Canadian Wal-Mart stores and we have no plans to stock it.”
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mommyof4
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Me too. Wanna share a ride? Canada is only about 10 hours away from where I live. However, the closest Walmart from my house is only about 10 min away. Sigh. What to do?I guess I’ll just have to shop at Wal-Mart in Canada.
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cecilia97
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Is this for real? Walmart limits the books and CDs it carries to the point that they’ve been involved in censorship lawsuits with musicians. I’d be amazed to see the kind of book described in my local Wally World.
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WanderAimlessly
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Don’t know where, but there should be one in Winsor which is only about 30 minutes from here. Of course, I have yet to venture into Canada yet.
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gelsbern
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While I have my reasons for not shopping at Wal-Mart (and this recent development adds one more) their philosophy in regards to their employment, I don’t think I have an issue with.
A job like working at Wal-Mart, or McDonald’s, or any other low paying job is supposed to be a stepping stone on the road to self improvement.
The problem in this day and age is that we have raised the minimum wage so high, that people can actually live off it. The original intent for establishing a minimum wage was to protect those just entering the work force, teens, recent high school graduates, college students working their way through, and maybe for retirees who were supplementing their income.
The minimum wage was never meant to be an end, but rather a means for self improvement. If you offer too much for a for a menial job that you remove the motivation for self improvement, then you do a disservice to your community by holding people back.
Wal-Mart knows this, which is why they do what they do. When you go to work for Wal-Mart, you either work to better yourself by learning the business and moving up into management, OR by pursuing an education in a field where you can make a living with benefits. A Wal-Mart job is supposed to be a temporary station in life not a permanent one .
At the same time, while giving motivation for people to improve themselves and either move up, or move on to better jobs, Wal-Mart keeps prices low for the low and middle classes out there, who are trying to save what they can to improve their own lives and the lives of their children.
But as I said, I had many reasons not to shop there, but I can tell you that the fact that they don’t pay their employees well, they don’t offer them benefits, overtime or many other perks we all consider standard (which is a product of the “entitlement” mentality of our society) isn’t one of them. I applaud them for that because no one should think of a Wal-Mart job as a career, unless they intend to move into management. A Wal-Mart job is a stepping stone along the way. Just like a paper route, or an apprenticeship, or working in a restaurant.
Our country is chock full of opportunities to move up, unfortunately our country is also chock full of lazy people who claim that they can’t do it.
Anyway, I am rambling and ranting and no staying linear so I will step off from the soap box before I stray too far from the topic of the thread.
A job like working at Wal-Mart, or McDonald’s, or any other low paying job is supposed to be a stepping stone on the road to self improvement.
The problem in this day and age is that we have raised the minimum wage so high, that people can actually live off it. The original intent for establishing a minimum wage was to protect those just entering the work force, teens, recent high school graduates, college students working their way through, and maybe for retirees who were supplementing their income.
The minimum wage was never meant to be an end, but rather a means for self improvement. If you offer too much for a for a menial job that you remove the motivation for self improvement, then you do a disservice to your community by holding people back.
Wal-Mart knows this, which is why they do what they do. When you go to work for Wal-Mart, you either work to better yourself by learning the business and moving up into management, OR by pursuing an education in a field where you can make a living with benefits. A Wal-Mart job is supposed to be a temporary station in life not a permanent one .
At the same time, while giving motivation for people to improve themselves and either move up, or move on to better jobs, Wal-Mart keeps prices low for the low and middle classes out there, who are trying to save what they can to improve their own lives and the lives of their children.
But as I said, I had many reasons not to shop there, but I can tell you that the fact that they don’t pay their employees well, they don’t offer them benefits, overtime or many other perks we all consider standard (which is a product of the “entitlement” mentality of our society) isn’t one of them. I applaud them for that because no one should think of a Wal-Mart job as a career, unless they intend to move into management. A Wal-Mart job is a stepping stone along the way. Just like a paper route, or an apprenticeship, or working in a restaurant.
Our country is chock full of opportunities to move up, unfortunately our country is also chock full of lazy people who claim that they can’t do it.
Anyway, I am rambling and ranting and no staying linear so I will step off from the soap box before I stray too far from the topic of the thread.
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OnlyAmbrose
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First I find Starbucks funds sexual obscenities in San Diego… and now this.
It’s articles like these which make me want to pack some beef jerky and some clothes and ship off to the far reaches of some distant island to live off the land.
It’s articles like these which make me want to pack some beef jerky and some clothes and ship off to the far reaches of some distant island to live off the land.
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jasm
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[sign]Walmart/JUST SAY NO![/sign]
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spanky
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So what are they already!
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gallo
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I was thinking about this stuff the other day and it occured to me that in the Revelation no one could by or sell without the mark of the beast. If we take the Faith seriously and refuse to shop anywhere that supports this junk, we may run out of places to buy and sell.
Just thinking…
Just thinking…
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wabrams
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I find this story hard to believe: they don’t sell Maxim magazine because it’s to risque and do not sell unedited c.d.'s, but they are selling this kind of book? Sounds fishy to me.
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gelsbern
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Doh!, called to the carpet.So what are they already!
Ok, here’s the main one.
The discrimination against larger people by charging $2 more for XL XXL and XXXL sizes. I mean, going to a tailor and having to pay a bit more for a one off item because it’s a larger size is one thing, but for a mass produced item that maybe has 20 cents more cloth in it, is ridiculous. Soon they will be charging $2 more for mens shoe sizes greater than 9.
That’s my main reason.
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