Walked out of rosary/chaplet recitation

[ajecphotos]

I have been where the rosary is said in a fast way and it is hard to keep up! I do prefer it said slowly and what I would class as ‘thoughtfully’. To rush it is to not digest it. It’s not a race. It’s a time for reflection and meditation. But as we know, everyone is different!

 

[Rae8]

Our parish does the rosary before mass and the Divine Mercy during holy hour. The priest leads the Divine Mercy and it goes at a good pace, not too fast and not too slow.

Excuse my ignorance - but when is the “holy hour” in the context used here?

I thought the chaplet is supposed to be said at 3:00 PM each day.

Thanks in Advance

 

[ajecphotos]

Excuse my ignorance - but when is the “holy hour” in the context used here?

I thought the chaplet is supposed to be said at 3:00 PM each day.

Thanks in Advance

Chaplet can be said at any time. At 3:00 it is known as the ‘3 o’clock prayer’

 

[RubyT]

But what really bugs me are people who think slower automatically equates to more devout/ better.

This is an assumption. I don’t see anyone on this thread who implies this at all. I am reading that everyone has there own preference and that is okay. We all think and medicate at different paces. No one is implying that they are more devout?

That said: we all have our preferences and that doesn’t make one more devout, nor do I see anyone implying that in this thread.

“Criticism of others is thus an oblique form of self-commendation. We think we make the picture hang straight on our wall by telling our neighbors that all his pictures are crooked.” A.B., Fulton Sheen

 

[Cat]

This is an assumption. I don’t see anyone on this thread who implies this at all. I am reading that everyone has there own preference and that is okay. We all think and medicate at different paces. No one is implying that they are more devout?

That said: we all have our preferences and that doesn’t make one more devout, nor do I see anyone implying that in this thread.

“Criticism of others is thus an oblique form of self-commendation. We think we make the picture hang straight on our wall by telling our neighbors that all his pictures are crooked.” A.B., Fulton Sheen

Here is what the OP said in the first post: “I decided that by the time they got to the chaplet, we’d slow down and really pray and meditate on what was being said. It was worse. It was being rushed, said without feeling, said for the sake of being said.”

The OP assumes that because people are “rushing” through the prayer, they are saying it “without feeling, for the sake of being said.” The OP implied that saying it fast did not give the people time to “meditate on what was being said.”

I don’t think the OP can make these assumptions about people who talk fast when they pray out loud.

Also, as many of us in the thread have said, whether or not someone is talking fast is a matter of individual interpretation. In the South, I would be considered a fast talker. Up here, I’m normal.

 

[tafan]

This is an assumption. I don’t see anyone on this thread who implies this at all. I am reading that everyone has there own preference and that is okay. We all think and medicate at different paces. No one is implying that they are more devout?

That said: we all have our preferences and that doesn’t make one more devout, nor do I see anyone implying that in this thread.

“Criticism of others is thus an oblique form of self-commendation. We think we make the picture hang straight on our wall by telling our neighbors that all his pictures are crooked.” A.B., Fulton Sheen

You are correct, though there are certainly some posts which are borderline, IMO:

ajecphotos:

I have been where the rosary is said in a fast way and it is hard to keep up! I do prefer it said slowly and what I would class as ‘thoughtfully’. To rush it is to not digest it. It’s not a race. It’s a time for reflection and meditation. But as we know, everyone is different!

 

[corsair]

Although we have a “Rosary leader” schedule, I generally wind up leading because the others tend to be late. It has been my experience that the secret to a well said and reverent Rosary is a good steady rhythym. I usually have my wife, who has a strong voice,
lead the “responders” She understands my “rhythym” and leads the same way. It takes us 17-18 minutes for the Rosary. We start 30 minutes before Mass, while Confessions are on going (we have a thin walled confessional). So we are done at least 10 minutes before Mass.

As we are a Traditional Latin Mass parish only, we have never developed a Divine Mercy chaplet affinity. There are several folks that like it so we will perhaps start something in a year or so depending upon response to an inquiry by our priest.

 

[Chatter163]

As we are a Traditional Latin Mass parish only, we have never developed a Divine Mercy chaplet affinity. There are several folks that like it so we will perhaps start something in a year or so depending upon response to an inquiry by our priest.

You make it sound like the two are mutually exclusive. We have plenty of people, including myself, at our FSSP parish, who love both the rosary and the Divine Mercy chaplet. One of our former pastors was heavily into Divine Mercy, and the present one recites it at our Divine Mercy celebration each year.

 

[corsair]

Not intended that way at all. I was just stating the conditions as they occur. I’m sure that we will one day develop the love for the Divine Mercy chaplet that other parishes have done. We are just not there yet.

 

[anonymous_in_fl]

My personal opinion:

I can relate to the OP.

I have stopped reciting the rosary with my daily mass group - - – they say it so fast it is just ridiculous. It just seems like they are in a hurry or rush to “get it done and over with”. Kinda like they want to get it off their “to do” list. Doesn’t sit well with me.

I don’t want the Mass rushed and said carelessly or thoughtlessly by a priest, and I don’t want my personal prayer time/devotions rushed, either.

I am more on the contemplative side and like to see public prayers done thoughtfully and meditatively.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[tafan]

My personal opinion:

I can relate to the OP.

I have stopped reciting the rosary with my daily mass group - - – they say it so fast it is just ridiculous. It just seems like they are in a hurry or rush to “get it done and over with”. Kinda like they want to get it off their “to do” list. Doesn’t sit well with me.

I don’t want the Mass rushed and said carelessly or thoughtlessly by a priest, and I don’t want my personal prayer time/devotions rushed, either.

I am more on the contemplative side and like to see public prayers done thoughtfully and meditatively.

Just my 2 cents.

I think it is fine that you stopped saying with a group because it was too fast for you. I think it wrong to say what their intent is. What is a rush for you may not be for them. And, if like at our parish, when it is said after morning, it is quite possible they are trying to get it done and over with, since they may have work requirements.

And just because a priest does not say a mass at a tempo you like, you should not assume he is being careless of thoughtless. I have seen priests say a daily mass in 20 minutes and see absolutely nothing wrong with it, as a matter of fact it makes a lot of sense to me. There is a reason the Church’s daily liturgy only has 1 reading, normally leaves out the Credo and the Gloria. The Church knows that many lay people have daily responsibilities and mass cannot take too long.

I certainly do not see daily mass as a meditative time or type of prayer. But maybe I am wrong on that one. Our new priests take 35-40 minutes on daily mass, and I still go almost every day, but it makes things a little more rushed for me in the morning. And some days, that extra 15 minutes keeps me from going, if I have a meeting scheduled at 9 for instance.

 

[SMHW]

Again, there are multiple ways to pray meditatively.

One way is to consider the words of the prayers and think about what is being said.

The other way is to “hear” the words (someone said something about letting the words roll over you) but not really be listening to the individual words so much as considering the prayers/mysteries/intentions as a whole.

Some people prefer one way; others prefer another. Some people probably switch off from day to day or even within the same rosary/chaplet.

My guess is that the method of meditating on the prayers is going to play a role in how much the speed of the prayers matters to one’s sense of how reverent the prayer is.

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Reverence is a word to which people attach all kinds of inferences that go beyond the actual definition. We tend to judge the reverence of others by their adherence to our own inferences.

Some people prefer the extraordinary form of the Mass and others prefer the ordinary form. Some people like a simple Mass and others prefer all the"smells and bells". There’s nothing wrong with having those sorts of preferences so long as one understands that one’s individual likes don’t diminish the intrinsic value of Masses that are different. Nor can the reverence of individual worshipers be measured by their Mass preferences.

One can make similar conclusions about communal private devotions. It’s fine to have preferences and to seek out communities that pray in a way we like. In fact for private devotions it probably makes even more sense to seek out preferences. But the reverence those who pray communally is still not easily measured by their preferences.