Walkouts at screening of new movie featuring 10-year-old girl playing sex robot

[phil19034]

SICK & DEMONIC.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

Yes, I’m aware that the “correct” language from a social work, scholarly etc perspective mutates all the time. There are probably a dozen law review articles on the language floating around out there right now.

All of my experience in this area is in the law enforcement context, primarily federal. The codified law changes at a snail’s pace because a change in a defined term would affect huge bodies of law. I note that “kiddie porn” was never a defined legal term of art.

When they change Title 18 is when the term “Child Pornography” will go away. My guess is that at some point they will change it to “child sexual abuse images”. “Child abuse images” without the sexual part would be very broad and would likely include a large number of images of non-sexual abuse (for instance, a screen grab from Walmart security cam of a mom slapping her kid). I’m pretty sure the government will wish to maintain a distinction for sexual abuse under the law, one reason being in order to place people appropriately on the sex offender registry.

 

[Welshrabbit]

Yup. Title 18 will have to change. Not likely to happen any time soon.

 

[Joe_5859]

Reading about the film from sources other than LSN,

Yes, it’s always good to look for sources other than LSN. I would like to see some confirmation from another source that they are describing things accurately. I wouldn’t take LSN’s statements at face value.

Not that I would be surprised to see some arthouse film pushing moral boundaries. But I’d rather read about what is actually in the film rather than LSN’s editorializing.

Either way, LSN is giving free publicity for a film that almost no one would have even known existed otherwise.

 

[TheLittleLady]

If I were a film producer making a controversial film, I just might leak it to some internet sites for the outrage publicity.

 

[Maxirad]

Comparing homosexuality with pedophilia is disgusting.

No offense, but as far as the Catholic priest sex-abuse scandal has been concerned, about eight in every ten victims of predator-priests have been postpubescent males. Check out Steven D. Greydanus’s review of the movie Spotlight.

 

[Tis_Bearself]

You are entitled to your opinion as to what word you think the world “should” use, but the US Department of Justice and many US people in law, law enforcement, journalism and general contexts use the word “child pornography”. If you work in the field, you should be aware of this so you are not surprised when you hear it. People who work in an international context may be careful about using different terminology when in another country because “when in Rome, do as the Romans do” but that does not make it bad for the normal term to be used in the USA. Outside the legal context, the understanding in USA is, as Welshrabbit said, that children cannot possibly consent, so there is no issue of the use of the word “pornography” implying a consent.

This is a US-based forum, so many people from US post here and use the common terminology for US. I don’t see any reason why they “should” use a different word when the term is in general use in USA, including by the federal government, the Harvard Law Review, major newspapers, etc.

With that, I’m done on this subject.
Have a nice day.

 

[annad347]

A shamefull comment. You should apologise to all Catholics who are also members of that community.

Totally agree… it is a shame how in this day and age you see how many Catholic Christians can not understand the difference between some how is homosexual and a pedophilia.

That’s sad…

Thank God, mercy, grace and love are in Your hands and not those of my brothers and sisters in the church.

As for the movie if they actually showed the action described in the title… that’s disgusting. If it was just mention for dramatic affect for a specific part in the movie then I’d have to see it to judge… not that I’d be really interested either way anyway.

 

[JohnWithFries]

No it isn’t.

 

[do_justly_love_mercy]

It really is. Pedophilia is a mental disorder and sexual abuse of children ruins lives irreparably. Attraction to people of the same sex occurs in healthy individuals and nobody is harmed through consensual sex.

 

[do_justly_love_mercy]

Yeah, I have seen this argument on here before. In short, homosexuals don’t commit sexual abuse, sexual abusers commit sexual abuse. If priests and male religious have tended to abuse more males than females it’s because that is who priests and male religious have most access to.

 

[do_justly_love_mercy]

I think I’ve seen worse, but only slightly. Something I find pretty disturbing on this site is the tendency of a small but noisy number of contributors to see an overlap between homosexuality and pedophilia. All the most disgusting comments I’ve seen have on here have been about homosexuality and/or pedophilia. There’s also some pretty blatant racism as well as some more subtle stuff you’d only realize is racist if you’re familiar with some of the weird ideas and/or coded messages that circulate on far-right discussion forums.

 

[mjm076]

How can that be though that Priests and male religious have sexually abused mostly males due to access? After all, for at least fifty years the Church has had Altar Girls.

Besides - most of the male victims were either pubescent or post-pubescent and their abusers would not classically be defined as a pedophile (pedophiles are attracted to children pre-pubescent). In all the reporting on the women rescued from the Cleveland House of Horrors in May 2013, even though two of the girls he abducted were minors, Ariel Castro was never labelled a pedophile.

Please read the John Jay Report for more information, the report from 2011.

Please note that no, not all men sexually attracted to men are attracted to teenage boys. But unfortunately, the John Jay Report speaks for itself…

 

[Maxirad]

After all, for at least fifty years the Church has had Altar Girls.

No offense, mjm076, but the Catholic Church forbade females from being altar servers until 1983.

 

[CathoRick]

Possibly the most often offensive post CAF has ever seen.

Even after a mod edited it to be less offensive (and ergo, less truthful)?

Pedophilia is offensive, and no Catholic in good conscience can support or tolerate it. Neither should we support a movement that promotes self-harmful and immoral behavior among a disadvantaged minority of the population. The Church is clear on this.

 

[TheLittleLady]

1983 was 37 years ago ago, but it was 5 decades ago:

2020
2010
2000
1990
1980s

 

[humbleseeker]

This made me feel so old I think I just broke out in liver spots

 

[Dan123]

1983 was 37 years ago ago, but it was 5 decades ago:

That’s an interesting definition of decade you’re using there. A decade is a 10 year period, there’s no specific start/end point, that is a decade is not required to start on a ‘0’ year. 37 years is 3.7 decades, not 5.

 

[TheLittleLady]

Spanning 5 decades.

It was in place in each decade listed.

 

[TheLittleLady]

I know. Same here.