Walmart supports abortion

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kimmielittle said:
Thinking this way…leaves us to stay in the past:) I wonder if you really mean this statement? Our whole Country is based on changing the past…???

Our future was not embracing this…AND We as a Nation of People saw it

Planned Parenthood founder Margaret “Negro Project” Sanger was a white supremacist. Today Planned Parenthood abortion mills are located almost exclusively in minority areas, so minorities disproportionately abort their progeny compared to whites.
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You’re right Kimmie 🙂 Encourage everyone to use them for their primary care providers then.
 
estesbob said:
Not for me-a multi-billion dollar corporation made one $25,000 contribution. As I said they are NOT a corporate sponsor. And if we are going to take this as a reason to boycott Wal-Mart shouldnt we make sure that all of its suppliers are ideologically pure?
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What would be the threshold at which you would think a boycott would be justified? How much would they have to give?
 
estesbob said:
Agan the problem with this thread is that Wal-Mart does NOT support the Komen foundation.
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Kind of true, they have given money in the past which shows implicit support. Do they regularly contribute large amounts? No. But their implied support could make individuals willing to boycott.
Rence said:
You’re right Kimmie 🙂 Encourage everyone to use them for their primary care providers then.
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No. Encourage everyone to get their own PCP and close them down entirely. Would you go to Jack Kevorkian for your Primary Care? Because that is what you are suggesting here. PP has as its primary purpose abortions since they make them the most money. When they are telling their employees to push for abortions because they need more money then I believe that is their fundamental service.
stinkcat_14 said:
What would be the threshold at which you would think a boycott would be justified? How much would they have to give?
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The decision to boycott is an individual one. Some people may boycott a business for saying something positive about PP, but that is like putting Rence on ignore because he has a positive view of them… somewhat silly. Some organizations like Susan GK give substantial amounts of money to PP which makes them far more worthy of a boycott IMHO. But I stand by my statement that it is an individual decision that should be made by people who have educated themselves (even if only through a brief survey of the data available).

The fact that people do not want to boycott Wal-Mart does not offend me. The fact that people (especially Catholics) support planned parenthood does.

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stinkcat_14 said:
What would be the threshold at which you would think a boycott would be justified? How much would they have to give?
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I dont support boycotts so for me there is no threshold. I beleive that boycotts are generally ineffective and when they do impact a business they hurt the employees far more than the company.

As a side note you can find a multitude of threads on boycotting Wal-Mart for a multitude of allged sins. If one was serious about boycotting stores that supported Komen the thread would have been “Safeway” support abortion as they are a corporate sponsor and give 100s of thousands to them. Since Wal-Mart is the perenial whipping boy of the left its more satisfying to go after them for their ties to Komen than it is to go after their major sponsors.
 
FidesSpesCarita said:
No. Encourage everyone to get their own PCP and close them down entirely. Would you go to Jack Kevorkian for your Primary Care? Because that is what you are suggesting here. PP has as its primary purpose abortions since they make them the most money. When they are telling their employees to push for abortions because they need more money then I believe that is their fundamental service.
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Actually, that’s not what I was suggesting at all FSC 🙂 Please see posts #209 and #14

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=6768986&postcount=209

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=6768986&postcount=214
 
Rence said:
Actually, that’s not what I was suggesting at all FSC 🙂 Please see posts #209 and #14

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=6768986&postcount=209

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=6768986&postcount=214
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Sorry, I am just a rotter at dealing with mixed messages and (despite not having a perfect grasp of grammar) I am have semantic OCD. Mixed messages or words like “doubt” throw me off my rocker 😉

So when you say “Use them for their primary car providers” means, to me, going to someplace which does the same thing as Kevorkian but saying “Its ok, Im not using them for death, so it is perfectly acceptable to fund them”. But thats just how I take it and yes, I am biased 🙂

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Pitcharan said:
While our intentions may be lofty, actions may not be effective and sometimes may even become counter productive. Why not devout our energies positively in creating / increasing awareness about the evil called abortion. Mother Teresa has already shown us the way; let us continue carrying her torch. Recall her words: “But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child - a direct killing of the innocent child - murder by the mother herself. And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another?”
Do look up these links: freerepublic.com/focus/news/1890743/posts & gargaro.com/mother_teresa/quotes.html
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Imagine if all catholics told Walmart that they wouldn’t buy at that store because they support without a squeak the government of china.

Why would that be counter productive? And how much publicity for the anti abortion cause would that generate?

I would guess that more people would hear of that than people who know of Mother Teresa.

And if we added all the baptists and other anti abortion people into the mix the number would be tremendous. But alas, it is better to have the cheap stuff from the commies than to stop the worldwide abortion pandemic.

Peace
 
Rence said:
Now look Julianna, the simple solution to the high grass would be to get a cow. Cows are great lawn mowers. So if Toro supports abortion (not saying it does, just using an example folks), just buy a cow, preferably a lactating one 🙂 why do people get so upset about long grass when it’s such an easy fix? 🤷
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In fact, sheep work best.
 
Julianna said:
great detective work…🤷 I guess your crystal ball is all shined and ready to go…😉

Yes Jesus is the TRUTH…I don’t take a breath or walk a step unless it is His will…

and again…I don’t recall a break in the newsday where the Pope standing on a balcony with a long list unfurling like Santa’s naughty or nice list, announcing in St. Peter’s Square a list of businesses in the U S of A that Catholics should not patronize…the only list I see is from CAF…with human beings run amok…

It doesn’t bother a me a bit that you call me a relativist…as I am not one of those who go cryin’ to the mods…

when folks like you pay my bills and mow my lawn:D…I’ll take it under consideration:shrug:

I work for a living…and I don’t spend hour upon hour on the CAF boards looking for “relativists”…or pointing out the planks in others eyes…

I guess Albert Einstein was wrong…🤷
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Not your truth.
Not my truth.
Only one Truth.

As for your spin … whatever.
 
My at-home computer is down - so will be mostly off-line.
Am at the library now; meanwhile peace to all - and Truth to all.
 
Scardinoz said:
I apologize but I am still stuck on this discomforting statement.

Jen, I patiently await your apology.
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I’m afraid I can’t apologize for truth. 😉

I empathize with your discomfort, but the fact is that I prefer Guinness. That might be excusable, but I even prefer sparkling cider to wine, which I know would, in some circles, rate as a crime deserving the death penalty. 😃

–Jen
 
revert_jen said:
I’m afraid I can’t apologize for truth. 😉

I empathize with your discomfort, but the fact is that I prefer Guinness. That might be excusable, but I even prefer sparkling cider to wine, which I know would, in some circles, rate as a crime deserving the death penalty. 😃

–Jen
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Oh wow!! A woman who likes Guinness more than wine?!@?@?@?! Its a Christmas Miracle!@@!! (I have never met one)

My Goodness My Guinness!!!

Man, this makes me wish I had one… The guinness that is.

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portarica said:
Imagine if all catholics told Walmart that they wouldn’t buy at that store because they support without a squeak the government of china.

Why would that be counter productive? And how much publicity for the anti abortion cause would that generate?

I would guess that more people would hear of that than people who know of Mother Teresa.

And if we added all the baptists and other anti abortion people into the mix the number would be tremendous. But alas, it is better to have the cheap stuff from the commies than to stop the worldwide abortion pandemic.

Peace
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How many catholics will buy your idea? What is our (catholics) objective? I think it is to enlighten more people about the evil of abortion and urge people to choose good rather than evil? Any kind of pressure (economic or social or political) can only be counter productive since the results will in no way serve christian values? It is like achieving low crime (sin) rate at gun point. The crux of our debate is this: You are suggesting Law and I am suggesting Grace.
 
Pitcharan said:
How many catholics will buy your idea? What is our (catholics) objective? I think it is to enlighten more people about the evil of abortion and urge people to choose good rather than evil? Any kind of pressure (economic or social or political) can only be counter productive since the results will in no way serve christian values? It is like achieving low crime (sin) rate at gun point. The crux of our debate is this: You are suggesting Law and I am suggesting Grace.
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Perhaps what I am suggesting is that the awesomeness of what Jesus taught requires the total congruency of our faith and our actions, and since that is so difficult it has never really been a requirement for catholics to maintain that congruency of thought and action.

The result is that after centuries we have pretty much become protestants in nature, relying on what we “believe” in to save us. We really don’t show much adherence in policy or day to day living to the needed implementation of what Jesus taught.

And we continue to make excuses so that we don’t have to sacrifice creature comfort to achieve spiritual salvation.

So let the commies and Walmart have their way and abort until the cows come home, just as long as we save money and live better.

Peace
 
Pitcharan said:
How many catholics will buy your idea? What is our (catholics) objective? I think it is to enlighten more people about the evil of abortion and urge people to choose good rather than evil? Any kind of pressure (economic or social or political) can only be counter productive since the results will in no way serve christian values? It is like achieving low crime (sin) rate at gun point. The crux of our debate is this: You are suggesting Law and I am suggesting Grace.
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common sense prevails…🙂
 
Julianna said:
common sense prevails…🙂
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Or not.

Our Lord turned over the tables of the money changers.

Walmart pharmacies do this. They fill abortifacients (MAPs–morning after pills). They fill BCP’s.

And yet Catholics continue to shop there (and for Walmart, you may use any chain pharmacy and, sadly, most independents, too.)

My pharmacy does none of the above. If I exist here, someone like me exists near you. Give that pharmacy your patronage.🙂
 
portarica said:
Perhaps what I am suggesting is that the awesomeness of what Jesus taught requires the total congruency of our faith and our actions, and since that is so difficult it has never really been a requirement for catholics to maintain that congruency of thought and action.
nor should it be a “requirement”…human beings don’t have keys in their backs that are wound at noon each day…we have individual thought…
The result is that after centuries we have pretty much become protestants in nature, relying on what we “believe” in to save us. We really don’t show much adherence in policy or day to day living to the needed implementation of what Jesus taught.
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After centuries, I would hope that we have “grown” in our faith without being buried by guilt, and the sack cloth and ashes mentality. To save the unborn, we must start within…BEFORE a woman makes the decision to go to PP. Our sons and daughters need us at the homefront, in our schools at middle school age… positive change comes from within an spreads outward…WalMart is here to stay…not everyone in America is Catholic…**
And we continue to make excuses so that we don’t have to sacrifice creature comfort to achieve spiritual salvation.
So living…or existing in squalor proves what? What good are we to women who are thinking the unthinkable, if we can’t afford to put gas in our cars, or clothes on our backs because we are spending premium prices on these items because the lowest price store in town gave a donation to stop breast cancer? What will the collecton plate look like?
So let the commies and Walmart have their way and abort until the cows come home, just as long as we save money and live better.
Resurrecting McCarthyism is not going to bring people to the cause of the unborn…it didn’t work in the 50’s…and it won’t work today. As for the economy…have you seen the prayer threads of folks who are praying for a “job”? Or folks coming to community soup kitchens to feed their families? Yes, it “is” the economy.

Peace
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