Wanting to Explore Traditional Catholicism

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Hello everyone. I hope you are all having a blessed Advent.

I’m a Catechumen and am feeling frustrated by the Novus Ordo Mass. It’s just too Protestant for me. Plus, the parishioners habitually use the Orans posture during the Mass and no one ever bothers to correct them about this.

I tried to speak to several people about this at my parish but they say I am knit picking.
Maybe I am. It just doesn’t feel Catholic in my heart.

Recently, I have felt this call to attend Traditional Latin Mass and to live as a Traditional Catholic.
I’m just not sure where to start. Is there a book that I can read that will offer guidelines about rubrics for the Latin Mass and also the daily practices for a Traditional Catholic?

Thank you for your time.
Mary Veronica
 
Welcome HOME!

I don’t know of a book that teaches what to do in the Extraordinary Form of the Mass; although we used to have missals in both Latin & English. You may be able to locate one of those.

As fro daily practices; it would vary greatly by each individual. We ARE saved individually eve though we practice a collectively single FAITH.

A morning Consecration to the Sacred Heart of Jesus
The Rosary said daily
Daily Mass & Communion on the tongue & keeling if possible
Praying the Angelus at noon and 3pm daily
Spiritual reading at least 15 minutes a day
A daily [nightly] examination of Conscience
daily prayers for the Poor Souls in Purgatory
Nighttime prayers

AND ACTUALLY know our beliefs and practices well enough to be able to share, explain and defend them when necessary

Hope this is helpful

God Bless you
Patrick [PJM] here on CAF
 
The novus ordo is not Protestant, that’s very condescending. Anyway, if you want to explore the traditionalist Catholic movement, see if you can find an fssp Parish nearby
 
Look up Ecclesia Dei, search for a Mass.
Usually they may have Latin-English booklet missals.
Ask to take one of those home.
 
I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to be condescending. The Novus Ordo just has the same casual feel of a Protestant service. That’s just how it feels to me.
 
Why get a book? Why just not see Latin Mass for yourself in real time, talk to the people.

If there is none near where you are, fly to Florida next month for a weekend to warm up a bit and visit the Latin mass down there.
 
Boy you just opened a big can of worms! 🍿
Mary_Veronica said:
feeling frustrated by the Novus Ordo Mass. It’s just too Protestant for me
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This usually turns out to be an issue with the celebrant, trying going to a mass with a different priest.
Mary_Veronica said:
Plus, the parishioners habitually use the Orans posture during the Mass and no one ever bothers to correct them about this.
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This happens practically everywhere. Try simply closing your eyes during the Our Father and the following responses.
Mary_Veronica said:
It just doesn’t feel Catholic in my heart.
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I don’t think I need to remind you that feelings do not determine Catholicism or the validity of the offering of the mass.
Mary_Veronica said:
Recently, I have felt this call to attend Traditional Latin Mass and to live as a Traditional Catholic.
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I commend you on this decision, my wife and our family also attend the Extraordinary Form of the Mass. Very holy and pious.

As to any reading material? Actually, yes. This book was very useful for me…

The Latin Mass Explained
 
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I find referring to the Extraordinary Form as a “movement” equally condescending. It’s the Mass of the Church Fathers and Saints throughout Church History. If anything is a “movement” it’s the Ordinary Form.
 
The Novus Ordo does not necessarily have to be “Protestant” feeling. Many do have that feeling unfortunately. But they shouldn’t. The Novus Ordo can be truly beautiful. It’s not the fault of the liturgy per se (although, there are some problems in my opinion). It’s more of the fault of those who carry out the liturgy.
 
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I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to be condescending. The Novus Ordo just has the same casual feel of a Protestant service. That’s just how it feels to me.
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You’re right. Part of that is the priest facing the people. There’s no problem with the Novus Ordo, but the priest was never really supposed to face the congregation all the time.
 
Thank you! There is a Tridentine Mass maybe an hour from where I am. I’ve been dealing with asthma the past few days, but if I am able to I plan on attending the Latin Mass at that parish.
 
Thank you! You’re right. Feelings do not determine Catholicism, maybe I am knit picking.
It might be the celebrant. During one homily he used the words “booger” and “dude” and was trying to make jokes.
I have tried other parishes but they are pretty much the same.

I will look for that book. Thank you!
 
I feel the same way about the Novus Ordo, which is why I started going to the Traditional Latin Mass. It’s wonderful going to a Mass that is just like what so many Catholics in history attended.

You can find a lot of traditional prayers and practices in old prayerbooks like Blessed be God or a 1962 missal. Fraternity Publications and Angelus Press offer great traditional Catholic books & missals.
 
Mary_Veronica said:
Thank you! You’re right. Feelings do not determine Catholicism, maybe I am knit picking.

It might be the celebrant. During one homily he used the words “booger” and “dude” and was trying to make jokes.

I have tried other parishes but they are pretty much the same.

I will look for that book. Thank you!
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Ugh, tell me about it. :roll_eyes: I’ve encountered priests like that. They’re the type who came right out of the 1970’s hipie movement and straight into the priesthood because they had this warped view of “peace and love man! It’s what the young people want!” The kind who viewed the Church and the Mass as some archaic patriarchal construct with “all these rules” and thought they could “make a difference” only to land in the new millennium in which the Catholic youth are overwhelmingly orthodox and are returning to traditionalism in droves. Good news is those types are pretty much a dying breed and will claim their heavenly reward within the next 20 years or so. This 50 years experiment with the liturgy is slowly coming to an end.
 
omgriley said:
only to land in the new millennium in which the Catholic youth are overwhelmingly orthodox and are returning to traditionalism in droves. Good news is those types are pretty much a dying breed and will claim their heavenly reward within the next 20 years or so. This 50 years experiment with the liturgy is slowly coming to an end.
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I believe these reasons you listed above are what catalyzed Pope Francis to declare in August “After this magisterium, after this long journey, we can affirm with certainty and magisterial authority that the liturgical reform is irreversible” . The “old guard” sees just what you have described: young people are rejecting feel-good theology and liturgical novelty and flocking to Tradition. The Pope, in hopes of assuaging the fears of those who created the New Liturgy, had to assure them before they go to their reward that their legacy will remain intact. That this had to even be declared smacks of desperation.
 
omgriley said:
Ugh, tell me about it. :roll_eyes: I’ve encountered priests like that
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In the mid 1970’s, here in Pittsburgh there was a hippie priest who celebrated Folk Mass on Sunday evenings at St. Mary’s at the Point.
 
R_H_Benson said:
I believe these reasons you listed above are what catalyzed Pope Francis to declare in August “After this magisterium, after this long journey, we can affirm with certainty and magisterial authority that the liturgical reform is irreversible” . The “old guard” sees just what you have described: young people are rejecting feel-good theology and liturgical novelty and flocking to Tradition. The Pope, in hopes of assuaging the fears of those who created the New Liturgy, had to assure them before they go to their reward that their legacy will remain intact. That this had to even be declared smacks of desperation.
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I’m not sure what the context of his statement was, but liturgical reform is most certainly possible. It’s happened not a few times in the Church history. Regardless, returning to the Traditional Latin Mass is necessarily not a reform. It’s a revert.
 
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