Wanting to get pregnant in God's time=toxic Christian

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I am working on the filter thing. But where do you stop? I mean if something is bothering me real bad, who would be the best people to talk to? If its something about my husband like if we had a fight, who should I go to? I dont want to end up bottling things in, my family has a history of heart problems.
Oh DEFINITELY marriage issues are private…
I agree - it’s HARD to bottle that in… but you don’t have to entirely keep it in! Take it to Jesus in prayer. Ask St. Joseph to pray for your marriage. Open up about it COMPLETELY to God… but not with anyone else. It’s not their business, nor are their opinions valid.
That is to say that it isn’t an abusive-type fight… at which point you definitely have to seek help. Does that make sense?
 
Oh DEFINITELY marriage issues are private…
I agree - it’s HARD to bottle that in… but you don’t have to entirely keep it in! Take it to Jesus in prayer. Ask St. Joseph to pray for your marriage. Open up about it COMPLETELY to God… but not with anyone else. It’s not their business, nor are their opinions valid.
That is to say that it isn’t an abusive-type fight… at which point you definitely have to seek help. Does that make sense?
Is it wrong then to ask advice from married couples we trust? or to ask our spiritual director? I mean, I open up to God too…but can God’s wisdom come out of other people’s mouths as well?
 
Is it wrong then to ask advice from married couples we trust? or to ask our spiritual director? I mean, I open up to God too…but can God’s wisdom come out of other people’s mouths as well?
Oh absolutely!!! I meant more of discussing disagreements with your spouse with other people in a way that leaves negative impressions of him with others… we don’t need to gossip or chit-chat and bad-mouth our spouse… that sort of thing.
 
It is sad that people who have had kids, therefore knowing how long it takes, pester others about when and why they are not yet having any. Six months is still good. My MIL asked me after 3 and a half months :eek:
 
LOL. it takes 30 minutes max…plus its not that often anyway. Like I said, whats 2 straight days of service to God out of the 7 days of the week?

I agree with what you said…this service brings us peace in our married life. Makes us think out of ourselves and just love the work without complaints. This gets our minds off things like these and it brings us closer. We get so hyped up thinking on our weeked schedule if its completely filled up. Plus taking care of a shelter pup in between? we are happy enough!

When I got so OCD with the pregnancy thing at the start, that did not help with my husband’s psyche problems either. We would end up arguing. I dont want that. We hurt each other just by words.

I am working on the filter thing. But where do you stop? I mean if something is bothering me real bad, who would be the best people to talk to? If its something about my husband like if we had a fight, who should I go to? I dont want to end up bottling things in, my family has a history of heart problems.
I would never say anything critical about my wife or “vent” about her to a member of my family. There’s too much risk of them forming negative opinions of my wife based on hearing more negative than positive. That sort of stuff has a way of making things worse rather than better.

If you have a spiritual director or a trusted friend, that would be a better route to go to. But you still have to be careful not to establish a routine of regularly “bad-mouthing” your spouse. Your confidante should have a good head on their shoulders and be cognizant of the fact that you really do love your husband.

I’m a professional bottler, though (:o), so it’s a lot easier for me to just not say anything.
 
Oh absolutely!!! I meant more of discussing disagreements with your spouse with other people in a way that leaves negative impressions of him with others… we don’t need to gossip or chit-chat and bad-mouth our spouse… that sort of thing.
I am safe then! LOL I opened up to a close friend in the ministry…it helps for me when people close to us say that they will pray for us…

Not in a gossip way, I what I am aiming for is trying to understand his perspective of the argument if another person explains it to me…you know what I mean?
 
It is sad that people who have had kids, therefore knowing how long it takes, pester others about when and why they are not yet having any. Six months is still good. My MIL asked me after 3 and a half months :eek:
My mom did not pester me up front…just hits that “you should lose wieght if you want to have kids” things like that…then my brother comes up with “our parents are getting old, you should have kids” and ‘you should have more quality time together’.I dont want our marriage to fall apart thats why we agreed on putting our foundation in God not on our professions, not on money, not even on each other. We want to both stand on firm ground and build upwards.
 
I would never say anything critical about my wife or “vent” about her to a member of my family. There’s too much risk of them forming negative opinions of my wife based on hearing more negative than positive. That sort of stuff has a way of making things worse rather than better.

If you have a spiritual director or a trusted friend, that would be a better route to go to. But you still have to be careful not to establish a routine of regularly “bad-mouthing” your spouse. Your confidante should have a good head on their shoulders and be cognizant of the fact that you really do love your husband.

I’m a professional bottler, though (:o), so it’s a lot easier for me to just not say anything.
I have a thing with picking out people with good shoulders, but the problem is we have a lot of trust worthy and neutral people to talk to now…especially in the ministry we are involved in. So how do you pick it out without making it grow into gossip? by number of people you talk to? or who you talk to?
 
My mom did not pester me up front…just hits that “you should lose wieght if you want to have kids” things like that…then my brother comes up with “our parents are getting old, you should have kids” and ‘you should have more quality time together’.I dont want our marriage to fall apart thats why we agreed on putting our foundation in God not on our professions, not on money, not even on each other. We want to both stand on firm ground and build upwards.
I think that is very wise. May God bless you both!
 
My mom did not pester me up front…just hits that “you should lose wieght if you want to have kids” things like that…then my brother comes up with “our parents are getting old, you should have kids” and ‘you should have more quality time together’.I dont want our marriage to fall apart thats why we agreed on putting our foundation in God not on our professions, not on money, not even on each other. We want to both stand on firm ground and build upwards.
So they snuck across a boundary instead of pushing the fence over. They still crossed a boundary, as you can tell by the feeling of violation their remarks caused. “Mom, Bro, you should recognize that I am a grown woman and married and hold back on the unsolicited advice when I didn’t ask for it.”

You’ve heard Robert Frost’s line “Good fences make good neighbors”? Boundaries are a good thing, and in the end they serve in the cause of peace. Maintain yours, even with your family, and everyone will be happier! It is one of those things that newlyweds learn, and are happy they did!
 
Is it wrong then to ask advice from married couples we trust? or to ask our spiritual director? I mean, I open up to God too…but can God’s wisdom come out of other people’s mouths as well?
Yes, but that good advice comes when you ask for it, and bites its tongue when you don’t ask. When you judge a source is not a great source for you, you quit asking…kind of like finding a doctor.
 
I have a thing with picking out people with good shoulders, but the problem is we have a lot of trust worthy and neutral people to talk to now…especially in the ministry we are involved in. So how do you pick it out without making it grow into gossip? by number of people you talk to? or who you talk to?
Certainly, you have to figure out what works best for you and your husband. I would keep the “circle of trust” as small as possible, though.

Some of that might depend on your husband’s sensitivities on the matter. I know that I would not like it if I found my wife venting about me to anyone who would listen to her. But if she was honestly grappling with something and had to talk to a close friend or two, that would be much different. Your husband may not care, though.
 
So they snuck across a boundary instead of pushing the fence over. They still crossed a boundary, as you can tell by the feeling of violation their remarks caused. “Mom, Bro, you should recognize that I am a grown woman and married and hold back on the unsolicited advice when I didn’t ask for it.”

You’ve heard Robert Frost’s line “Good fences make good neighbors”? Boundaries are a good thing, and in the end they serve in the cause of peace. Maintain yours, even with your family, and everyone will be happier! It is one of those things that newlyweds learn, and are happy they did!
AMEN…thank you! We are still working on it…just really thankful that his parents know those boundaries having the oldest son married with children. I am praying to God for courage about this with my parents and family.
 
Kal2012 said:

“I’d explain that you want to do the service projects while you are childless because when you have children, you won’t have the time. It means a lot to you now and that desire isn’t going to stop because you are trying to get pregnant. Life doesn’t stop just because you are in a new stage of life.”

Very true. Also, it can take a long time (or forever) to get pregnant, and it would be terribly unhealthy and unhelpful to eliminate all outside activities and interests when it may not happen at all.
 
Kal2012 said:

“I’d explain that you want to do the service projects while you are childless because when you have children, you won’t have the time. It means a lot to you now and that desire isn’t going to stop because you are trying to get pregnant. Life doesn’t stop just because you are in a new stage of life.”

Very true. Also, it can take a long time (or forever) to get pregnant, and it would be terribly unhealthy and unhelpful to eliminate all outside activities and interests when it may not happen at all.
Exactly! And the hard part is, they don’t get it…i just hope eventually they will see that.
 
AMEN…thank you! We are still working on it…just really thankful that his parents know those boundaries having the oldest son married with children. I am praying to God for courage about this with my parents and family.
It is not easy to maintain a fence when your family doesn’t want you to have it, but we want you to know that the fence is not only something you deserve but something that it is in everyone’s interest for you to have. If you do not have it, your family will hurt you in ways they never intended to hurt you. If you do not have it, your ability to put each other first as spouses and to lead and protect your family as parents will be compromised. So even though some people may fight you on it, feel good about sticking firmly and lovingly to your guns about maintaining your boundaries. It is not easy, but you’re doing the right thing. If they don’t see it or agree with it, oh well. Let them have that on *their *plate to eat, not yours. That is the take-home message.
 
It is not easy to maintain a fence when your family doesn’t want you to have it, but we want you to know that the fence is not only something you deserve but something that it is in everyone’s interest for you to have. If you do not have it, your family will hurt you in ways they never intended to hurt you. If you do not have it, your ability to put each other first as spouses and to lead and protect your family as parents will be compromised. So even though some people may fight you on it, feel good about sticking firmly and lovingly to your guns about maintaining your boundaries. It is not easy, but you’re doing the right thing. If they don’t see it or agree with it, oh well. Let them have that on *their *plate to eat, not yours. That is the take-home message.
Well my mom kinda gets it…because there are time where in she will tell me that she had to butt in what my dad’s opinions by saying"you dont have the right to now, she’s an adult and married, let her decide". but there are times where she gives the guilt trip and ends the sentence with “well its up to you”. Not very helpful. at those times, i feel manipulated.
 
blujazz25 said:

“Exactly! And the hard part is, they don’t get it…i just hope eventually they will see that.”

One of the saddest things that can happen to a person who otherwise has a good life is to become that infertile woman who has been trying for years and just can’t forgive other people for having kids. Your relatives are buying you an express train ticket to being that person. That’s not nice at all. Your brother, in particular, seems very much in your business, but you did allow the conversation to happen.

One of my married cousins didn’t have kids. She had everything–but no kids. I wondered about that. You can imagine, though, my delight at not having said anything when years later, I learned that she and her husband had been struggling with infertility.
 
Thanks for the encouragement. May I know who these saints are?
I don’t see that anyone answered your question. And, the person that originally posted my have had others in mind, but I know St. Therese of Lisieux’s parents, Sts. Louis and Marie Martin, lived as brother and sister for nearly a year after marriage.
 
Are they already canonized saints? I only know Mary’s parents, Sts. Joachim and Ann.
 
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