Warrior Monks?

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What happened to the concept of the Warrior Monk? The Templars were disbanded, the Malta’s are a charitable org. now, the Hospitalars, who knows. Is the concept no longer valid, needed or wanted? Is the " warrior monk" an oxymoron? Is there any place in the Church for the millitarilly minded catholic?
 
since the Vatican does not maintain a standing army, my guess would be NO

now I am waiting for someone to post a photo of camo habits
 
About the closes that we come to “Warrior Monks” today are our military chaplains like Father Eric Albertson, a priest of the Military Archdiocese in Arlington, Va., and U.S. Army Major, currently serving in Iraq. Father Albertson attended Mount St. Mary’s Seminary in Emmitsburg, Md., and was ordained to the priesthood in 1986. He joined the Army in 1993.

An Army Ranger, he has earned a Bronze Star, other meritorious service awards and senior parachute wings. He has served with troops in Korea three times as well as in Haiti, Bosnia and Iraq.

They are simply wondrous warriors for Christ and do outstanding work with our servicemembers and their families around the world. Keep these devoted priests in your prayers.

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OldRedleg said:
About the closes that we come to “Warrior Monks” today are our military chaplains like Father Eric Albertson, a priest of the Military Archdiocese in Arlington, Va., and U.S. Army Major, currently serving in Iraq. Father Albertson attended Mount St. Mary’s Seminary in Emmitsburg, Md., and was ordained to the priesthood in 1986. He joined the Army in 1993.

An Army Ranger, he has earned a Bronze Star, other meritorious service awards and senior parachute wings. He has served with troops in Korea three times as well as in Haiti, Bosnia and Iraq.

They are simply wondrous warriors for Christ and do outstanding work with our servicemembers and their families around the world. Keep these devoted priests in your prayers.

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HOOAH !!
 
Swamp_Yankee said:
What happened to the concept of the Warrior Monk? The Templars were disbanded, the Malta’s are a charitable org. now, the Hospitalars, who knows. Is the concept no longer valid, needed or wanted? Is the " warrior monk" an oxymoron? Is there any place in the Church for the millitarilly minded catholic?
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When Catholics begin to get martyred again for the faith, I think you’ll see some of us sign up for the cause. They are already getting martyred in China and Lebanon as I understand it…

Hooah.
 
The day is coming my friends, it is I am sure of it. The peace and love lah-de-dah stuff is just a passing phase due to political stability and material comfort. History has a way of repeating itself. Some day the Pope will command armies again and the Church will stand up.

Hypothetically, hypothetically… at least my friend says so. I have no such opinions myself. 🙂
 
A few years back I wrote an article for Our Family Visitor about a group trying to get going called the order of Saint Sebastian. Startedby an ex–navy SEAL, it was supposed to be a military order to be at the service of the church, possibly to defend church leaders or communities in areas where they are persecuted.
I don’t know what developed.
 
puzzleannie said:
since the Vatican does not maintain a standing army, my guess would be NO

now I am waiting for someone to post a photo of camo habits
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Tell that to the Swiss Guards.



On May 6th 1527 the Swiss Guards, numbering only 187, held off a German protestant army of over 5,000 long enough to allow Pope Clement VII and his court to escape from the Vatican to the saftey of Castel Sant’ Angelo. 145 of the Papal guards, including most of the officers, were slaughtered in St. Peter’s Square. It is that when the commander died his wife took up his sword and fought in her husband’s place until she lay dead beside him, their blood running down the steps of the Basilica.

Every year on May 6th the last stand of the Swiss Guards is commemorated in a ceremony where the new recruits take their oath of loyalty in the presence of the Holy Father.
 
Caesar said:
Tell that to the Swiss Guards.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050508/wd2.jpg

On May 6th 1527 the Swiss Guards, numbering only 187, held off a German protestant army of over 5,000 long enough to allow Pope Clement VII and his court to escape from the Vatican to the saftey of Castel Sant’ Angelo. 145 of the Papal guards, including most of the officers, were slaughtered in St. Peter’s Square. It is that when the commander died his wife took up his sword and fought in her husband’s place until she lay dead beside him, their blood running down the steps of the Basilica.

Every year on May 6th the last stand of the Swiss Guards is commemorated in a ceremony where the new recruits take their oath of loyalty in the presence of the Holy Father.
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One battle almost 500 years ago, glorious though it may have been, does not a standing army make.
 
PapaBennySix said:
When Catholics begin to get martyred again for the faith, I think you’ll see some of us sign up for the cause. They are already getting martyred in China and Lebanon as I understand it…

Hooah.
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Catholics are being martyred in Iraq as well.
 
LilyM said:
One battle almost 500 years ago, glorious though it may have been, does not a standing army make.
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Perhaps you are unaware that the Pontifical Swiss Guards are still around. They may be just ceremonial now, but they still count as an army.
 
Caesar said:
Tell that to the Swiss Guards.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050508/wd2.jpg

On May 6th 1527 the Swiss Guards, numbering only 187, held off a German protestant army of over 5,000 long enough to allow Pope Clement VII and his court to escape from the Vatican to the saftey of Castel Sant’ Angelo. 145 of the Papal guards, including most of the officers, were slaughtered in St. Peter’s Square. It is that when the commander died his wife took up his sword and fought in her husband’s place until she lay dead beside him, their blood running down the steps of the Basilica.

Every year on May 6th the last stand of the Swiss Guards is commemorated in a ceremony where the new recruits take their oath of loyalty in the presence of the Holy Father.
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The Swiss Guards are not a standing army. They are the equiv. of the Secret Service and are not monks. They are more ceremonial now and sworn to protect the Holy Father with their life, if need be.
 
Semper_Fi said:
The Swiss Guards are not a standing army. They are the equiv. of the Secret Service and are not monks. They are more ceremonial now and sworn to protect the Holy Father with their life, if need be.
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Never said they were monks. Though interestingly many of them enter the priesthood after being discharged.
 
Caesar said:
Tell that to the Swiss Guards.

http://www.tribuneindia.com/2005/20050508/wd2.jpg

On May 6th 1527 the Swiss Guards, numbering only 187, held off a German protestant army of over 5,000 long enough to allow Pope Clement VII and his court to escape from the Vatican to the saftey of Castel Sant’ Angelo. 145 of the Papal guards, including most of the officers, were slaughtered in St. Peter’s Square. It is that when the commander died his wife took up his sword and fought in her husband’s place until she lay dead beside him, their blood running down the steps of the Basilica.

Every year on May 6th the last stand of the Swiss Guards is commemorated in a ceremony where the new recruits take their oath of loyalty in the presence of the Holy Father.
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Just an amplification. The troops that sacked Rome were under the command of the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V. They were Spanish and German mercenaries who rebelled because they had not been paid. By the way, the Pope had supported Charles’ opponent–the French–in a war.
 
First_of_9 said:
Just an amplification. The troops that sacked Rome were under the command of the Holy Roman Emperor Charles V. They were Spanish and German mercenaries who rebelled because they had not been paid. By the way, the Pope had supported Charles’ opponent–the French–in a war.
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Ok. Doesnt make the sack of Rome any less of an atrocious act.
 
Caesar said:
I think the Teutonic Knights still exist…
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They do.

Also, the swiss guards are mostly for show. There is actually a separate division that handles PP of the Pope.

I, for one, pray that the Church creates a military order. We will need it.
 
TemplarKnight said:
They do.

Also, the swiss guards are mostly for show. There is actually a separate division that handles PP of the Pope.

I, for one, pray that the Church creates a military order. We will need it.
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I read an interesting article today. It seems that Cardinal Bertone is looking to phase out the Swiss Guard. I will post it later.
 
the Swiss Guard are not monks, most are married with children, but gotta love the hat
 
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