Was Adolf Hitler possessed?

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There are some definite signs of possession exorcists use to judge such a case, and I never heard that Hitler displayed such signs. I agree with another poster however that he was obsessed by Satan. He was involved in the occult too, which is a channel for Satan to come into people’s lives. Further, Satan can create a spiritual web that gains great power over nations or ideologies, and I think this happened to Nazism (and Germany then) as well. This also helps explain the dynamics of the pro-abortion movement in the U.S. and elsewhere.
 
Who knows? Whatever he was, I’m certainly glad that the Allies put a stop to that evil nonsense!
 
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Janet_Cardin:
HI,
No, Adolf Hitler was not possessed. He actually was and still is one of those fallen from Heaven. T.
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what evidence do you have that he was once in heaven and fell from there? Only Lucifer and the angels who followed him can be described that way. Hitler is a human who sinned in a spectacular way, but is not and never was an angel.

thank you for the link to that old news report, Shoshana, it helps to know where the idea in OP’s question comes from. It does sound more like opinion, albeit expert opinion, however than proven fact.
 
lizaanne said:
Don’t cut him any slack. He knew exactly what he was doing.

~Liza
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Agreed.
Devil-made-me-do-it is a poor excuse. I find it sad that those who espouse the idea that evil people are possessed do not realize that they have just formulated an excuse from accountability.
 
The devil had a good grip on him, although he still had control of his faculties.

However in Shirer’s “The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich”, he mentions one of Hitler’s compatriots seeing “this indescribable flickering glow” in his eyes.

As far as I’m concerned, the Third Reich was an attempt by the devil to get control of the human race. He failed that time, but he’ll try again. It’s also where it got its power and evil brilliance from. The devil was behind it. Take a glance at the concentration camps and you get an inkiling of Hell.

Except of course Hell would be far worse, and its eternal. One can, in the final analysis, escape from a concentration camp by dying. But there’s no escape from an eternal concentration camp.

He may not have been possessed in the full sense, but the devil had a very good grip on him.
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
Agreed.
Devil-made-me-do-it is a poor excuse. I find it sad that those who espouse the idea that evil people are possessed do not realize that they have just formulated an excuse from accountability.
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Not necessarily. You are making the erroneous assumption that there is a distinct dichotomy between free will and determinism. Contemporary philosophers however agree that humans do have free will and have choices that are determined in some way; the philosophical belief is called “soft determinism” or “compatibilism”.

Whilst to say Adolf Hitler was possessed is a bit of stretch, to suggest that he enjoyed optimum free will would be a bit of a stretch as well. If I am not mistaken and remember correctly, the Blessed Virgin Mary at Fatima foretold that there would be wars of massive proportions and that it would be to bring about God’s divine punishment. That in itself would suggest that there was an “ulterior motive” behind World War II and the influential actors who participated in it. What we should really be asking is not whether Adolf Hitler was possessed, but whether he was part of God’s plan in the grand scheme of things (even with the atrocities committed).

In the Old Testament, God used the surrounding civilizations of Israel to punish the Israelites when they stepped out of line and stopped worshiping God. Yet the surrounding civilizations had free will; the only difference is that there seemed to be a “metaphysical reason” behind why surrounding civilizations rose. Such couldn’t be more exemplary when God declares to Pharaoh: “But for this purpose I have raised you up, to show you my power, so that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth” (Exodus 9:17). Clearly there was a metaphysical reason behind why Pharaoh became a powerful person. He enjoyed free will but that didn’t negate the fact that he was still under God’s radar. Jesus remarked in the New Testament, "Woe to the world for temptations to sin! For it is necessary that temptations come, but woe to the one by whom the temptation comes! (Matthew 18:7). Most commentators, if not universally, agree that Jesus was speaking about Judas’ betrayal that was to come. We should place emphasis on Jesus’ remarks that “it is necessary that temptations come”. In the context of modern human history, this was still true…wars still happen, but through who they come (namely, Adolf Hitler) implies God being angry. Judas had free will, but there was also a metaphysical reason behind his betrayal, which many agree was the opening up of salvation for Humanity so that whosoever believes in Jesus shall not perish (John 3:16).

I think your doubts derive from your nihilistic view on most things. God is still active in the world. That isn’t to say that God is behind every little thing that happens…simply because leaves fall, or that it rains, does not suggest that God actively caused it. Even Jesus alluded to that Himself, when He refuted the belief that those who died in the tower in Siloam prompted God’s punishment (Luke 13:4), or when His disciples asked what sin caused a particular man to be blind and Jesus responded that “It was not that this man sinned, or his parents, but that the works of God might be displayed in him” (John 9:3). So there are some benefits to your nihilism, but it must be in check lest we fall into deism (the belief that God isn’t active in His creation) or even Atheism (the belief that God, or a god, doesn’t exist); in the same way, we should be careful not to attribute every little thing to God, lest we become superstitious like those ancient civilizations that believed that when their crops declined, it was because they had caused God to be angry. Ultimately, there’s a fine balancing act, but we have to understand that speculation of God’s intervention in the world can only be analyzed retrospectively (i.e. we can not truly speculate what God will do, but merely, what God has done).

Thank you,
Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk
 
Yes, I heard an Exorcist say he was possessed by Lucifer/Satan.
 
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Janet_Cardin:
Unfortuneately there are still those fallen who cleverly escaped from the expulsion of Heaven. Some seem to have an unlimited supply of power. And this power source has been located. There is still another one that is really bothersome.

Staying with the Faith is still and always the best, and only way to beat this extra evil they bring into the world. The only reason that David did not become the Savior and sent His precious Son instead is because of these same evil ones. The evil ones left in Heaven used all sorts of evil to force David’s Father, David’s creator to forget who He was and that David was His Son. The search for David’s creator went on until this earth reached a crisis point and the Saviour had to come into this world. If David could have located His Father, His Creator, He would have been the Saviour instead of Jesus. And yes, Jesus still would be here, being the obedient, loving Son He is. And David’s Creator has recently been located and He has been restored. More will be answered as I have permission to answer. The rest can be explained more abundantly after judgement, for the righteous congregation accepted in Heaven.

One of the major reasons for some of the evil on this earth is from hypnosis, brought about by one who is tetoring on the possibility of making the choice to fall, so does anyone have any bright ideas on how to end the evil of hypnosis, which can only be done by ending hypnosis. Let go and let Jesus. . .

Sooner or later who I am will be figured out. There are some who already know.
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Janet, what you say here has little resemblance to the teaching of the Catholic Church.
 
Bohm_Bawerk said:
Not necessarily. You are making the erroneous assumption that there is a distinct dichotomy between free will and determinism. Contemporary philosophers however agree that humans do have free will and have choices that are determined in some way; the philosophical belief is called “soft determinism” or “compatibilism”.

Whilst to say Adolf Hitler was possessed is a bit of stretch, to suggest that he enjoyed optimum free will would be a bit of a stretch as well. If I am not mistaken and remember correctly, the Blessed Virgin Mary at Fatima foretold that there would be wars of massive proportions and that it would be to bring about God’s divine punishment. That in itself would suggest that there was an “ulterior motive” behind World War II and the influential actors who participated in it. What we should really be asking is not whether Adolf Hitler was possessed, but whether he was part of God’s plan in the grand scheme of things (even with the atrocities committed).
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I would say that with the capacity of man for evil, any atrocity predicted (such as the Fatima prophecy) can always be likely. I cannot say just how far incompatible deism is with Catholicism but teachings such as those that dictate that nothing can ever be added or taken from the public revelation of the Church do have a deist rationale in that area. For me, the only thing the devil ever needed was our corruption. Once after the Fall, it didn’t matter to him what means was taken, so long as it was evil, it was enough for him.

On the other hand, I find it a great display of good over evil in how even when darkness is rampant, much good can still be brought out of people. You can say it is rigged against evil in that whilst it doesn’t exist, good thrives. If it is rampant, it thrives on even more.

This isn’t to say that some things must happen but I simply acknowledge that man has equal capacity for good and evil (with either all within his/her greater capacity to choose). Those capacities let us make choices, and those choices weave a web of cause and effect that is not as predictable as any plan of predestination.
 
Lost_Wanderer said:
I would say that with the capacity of man for evil, any atrocity predicted (such as the Fatima prophecy) can always be likely. I cannot say just how far incompatible deism is with Catholicism but teachings such as those that dictate that nothing can ever be added or taken from the public revelation of the Church do have a deist rationale in that area.
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The Church takes the stance it does on private revelation and apparitions not out of some flirtation with deism, but rather, because we believe that all public revelation ceased at the death of the last apostle. Therefore, nothing can ever be added or removed from the deposit of faith (Sacred Scripture and Sacred Tradition). The purpose of apparitions and private revelation is merely to remind Humanity (or at least the faithful) of the deposit of faith within the context of a certain time period.

What convinces me that the Fatima predictions were at least pointing to World War II is because the Blessed Virgin Mary (if I remember correctly) said that when Humanity sees a “bright light” in the sky, they should know that judgement was imminent. Shortly before World War II, an aurora borealis was reported to have been seen across Europe, thus fulfilling prophecy. I’m not the biggest expert on Fatima, so hopefully someone more knowledgable can confirm this for me.
Lost_Wanderer said:
This isn’t to say that some things must happen but I simply acknowledge that man has equal capacity for good and evil (with either all within his/her greater capacity to choose). Those capacities let us make choices, and those choices weave a web of cause and effect that is not as predictable as any plan of predestination.
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Certain things do have to happen. Again, harking back to Jesus’ quote: “Woe to the world for temptations to sin! For it is necessary that temptations come, but woe to the one by whom the temptation comes!” (Matthew 18:7). Certain things must necessarily happen, but from whom they come is where free will comes into play. And in a very weird sense, Adolf Hitler became one of the world’s worst dictators history has known whilst his classmate, Ludwig Wittgenstein, became a world-known philosopher. There’s even a photo of them pictured together. So it’s funny how that worked out.

Thank you,
**Eugen von Böhm-Bawerk **
 
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Janet_Cardin:
HI,
No, Adolf Hitler was not possessed. He actually was and still is one of those fallen from Heaven. Those who have fallen from Heaven are very dangerous. .
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arent those fallen from heaven demons…like in the bible?🙂
 
+JMJ+

I heard that Pope Pius XII tried a “long distance” exorcism on Hitler. If he thinks he was possessed, then 🤷
Lost_Wanderer said:
Agreed.
Devil-made-me-do-it is a poor excuse. I find it sad that those who espouse the idea that evil people are possessed do not realize that they have just formulated an excuse from accountability.
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Uhm, no. Obsession and possession by evil spirits can only happen upon the willful consent of people to let such diabolical activity happen in the first place. In other words, one is possessed through his/her own fault.

Which, if Hitler was truly possessed, makes him more of a monster for not fighting it.

God love you.
 
nuntym said:
+JMJ+

I heard that Pope Pius XII tried a “long distance” exorcism on Hitler. If he thinks he was possessed, then 🤷

Uhm, no. Obsession and possession by evil spirits can only happen upon the willful consent of people to let such diabolical activity happen in the first place. In other words, one is possessed through his/her own fault.

Which, if Hitler was truly possessed, makes him more of a monster for not fighting it.

God love you.
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Code:
This is not completely true…we have the example of the boy in ‘The Exorcist’ who was possessed by playing with the oija board. Once you get that far, one can fight somewhat against it but the person needs help from the Church to fight the evil spirits within…
 
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