Was Baha'u'llah a Saint ?

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Servant19 said:
I’m totally comfortable with that.

Religion declines. THe teachings are lost over time. The human expressions and patterns become more and more interjected with “man-made” interjections. I’m confident when humans are involved all manner of problems and tragedies occur to God’s religion.

It is for this reason that God sends new Manifestations of God, to remove the “man-made” and bring back the Divine…

I’m confident that polytheism is a man-made device to explain the “attributes of God”…the original teachings of Krishna, Buddha, Moses and even Jesus may very well have been interjected with lots of human hands over time.

That is why, when it aligns with the “signed and sealed” Writings of Baha’u’llah we say 👍

If not, there are all manner of explanations. Progressive revelation is one explanation, but human interjections and corruption are another. There are others too…

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You have still not answered my initial question. Is the atheistic Buddhist closer to God than Abraham? Or are both equal to each other now that a certain amount of time has passed?
 
Servant19 said:
Yes, and what do you think the Buddha did?

Why do you think the monks go to their monasteries and push themselves to the limits of physical human and spiritual endurance?

Suffering itself brings an end to suffering…

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These people believe in reincarnation, but if but the Holy spirit can find some love in their Hearts at their Judgement, they will be saved and go to Heaven, but only after going through a Catholic purgatory.
 
Techno2000 said:
What if your humble perspective is wrong ?
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I’m willing to hedge my life on it.

Simply because every Manifestation of God has proclaimed it.

Basically, its “Believe in Me, otherwise you are categorized amongst the dead and unbelieving”

Everyone before Moses was not amongst the chosen ones of God:
“For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.” - Deut 7:6
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Everyone before Jesus was blinded:
“In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.” - 2 Corinthians 4:4
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It continues with Muhammad and Baha’u’llah in the same vein…

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Techno2000 said:
These people believe in reincarnation, but if but the Holy spirit can find some love in their Hearts at their Judgement, they will be saved and go to Heaven, but only after going through a Catholic purgatory.
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You’re changing subjects again…🤷

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IgnatianPhilo said:
You have still not answered my initial question. Is the atheistic Buddhist closer to God than Abraham? Or are both equal to each other now that a certain amount of time has passed?
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As far as I am aware, Baha’u’llah says nothing about who is closer to God, the atheist Buddhist or the monotheist. What is really in the heart of the atheist Buddhist may be a lot more theistic than what you might give them credit for.

God is the judge of all Ignatian, you know that. How can I possibly comment? None knoweth their fate…

It’s a silly question and you know it brother! 👍

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Techno2000 said:
I dont know what Buddha did, he might have been deceived by the Devil.
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Well implying that someone who you don’t even know what they did might have been deceived by the Devil is quite devilish don’t you think? 😃

I would humbly suggest you study the life of the Buddha, and then you will see the wisdom of the ascetic life seen in Buddhist monasticism and how the principles are so very close to Christian ascetism…

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If much is given, much is expected , If little is given, little is expected… God determines the responsibility of each person.
 
Servant19 said:
Well implying that someone who you don’t even know what they did might have been deceived by the Devil is quite devilish don’t you think? 😃

I would humbly suggest you study the life of the Buddha, and then you will see the wisdom of the ascetic life seen in Buddhist monasticism and how the principles are so very close to Christian ascetism…

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Lets say that if these principles are true will that enable a Buddhist to go to the highest Levels of felicity in a Catholic Heaven.
 
Techno2000 said:
Lets say that if these principles are true will that enable a Buddhist to go to the highest Levels of felicity in a Catholic Heaven.
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No because they reject Jesus.

If you asked this question in India around 400BC, I would say Yes…

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Servant19 said:
Well implying that someone who you don’t even know what they did might have been deceived by the Devil is quite devilish don’t you think? 😃

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You don’t believe in a Devil,so how can you believe something can be “devilish”?
 
Techno2000 said:
You don’t believe in a Devil,so how can you believe something can be “devilish”?
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Some characteristics of the devil are injustice and prejudice. I believe the characteristics exist. They just are not from an entity called the “devil”…

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Techno2000 said:
In 400 BC heaven wasn’t open for Man.
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This is a parable to indicate that anyone who rejects Jesus, during His Age, is barred from the vision of God. This is expressed in all religions.

When the Manifestation of God comes and reveals Himself, ALL ON EARTH are amongst the dead, blind, cannot see, or sleeping, sinners.

When you embrace the Manifestation of God, and recognize Him, you are raised from the dead, given sight, born again, awakened, and saved from sin. Heaven awaits…

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Servant19 said:
Some characteristics of the devil are injustice and prejudice. I believe the characteristics exist. They just are not from an entity called the “devil”…

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Where did these characteristics come from ?
 
Servant19 said:
This is a parable to indicate that anyone who rejects Jesus, during His Age, is barred from the vision of God. This is expressed in all religions.

When the Manifestation of God comes and reveals Himself, ALL ON EARTH are amongst the dead, blind, cannot see, or sleeping, sinners.

When you embrace the Manifestation of God, and recognize Him, you are raised from the dead, given sight, born again, awakened, and saved from sin. Heaven awaits…

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Which Manifestation of God is the right one ?
 
Techno2000 said:
Where did these characteristics come from ?
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Our ego…man’s lower nature.

Its the reason you fast at Lent, to eliminate the desires of our lower nature so that our souls can thrive…
(suffering brings us closer to God remember ? 😉 )

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Techno2000 said:
How did Man come to have a lower nature?
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Well, the sperm and the egg…

That’s how we are created…we didn’t “come” to have a lower nature…this is creation.

The universe didn’t “come” to have electrons, protons and neutrons, that’s how it was created…

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Servant19 said:
Well, the sperm and the egg…

That’s how we are created…we didn’t “come” to have a lower nature…this is creation.

The universe didn’t “come” to have electrons, protons and neutrons, that’s how it was created…

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So the devilish characteristics… was already in the Big Bang right from the start ?
 
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