Was Christ's glorious body physical or spiritual?

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We know that Christ’s glorious body had flesh and bone, and that He did eat, and so we may think His body as being physical; but we also know that He walked right though a locked door which implies a purely spiritual body.
 
We know that Christ’s glorious body had flesh and bone, and that He did eat, and so we may think His body as being physical; but we also know that He walked right though a locked door which implies a purely spiritual body.
No; it simply demonstrates that His glorified body doesn’t have the kinds of physical limitations that ours have. 🤷
 
No; it simply demonstrates that His glorified body doesn’t have the kinds of physical limitations that ours have. 🤷
So you’re saying it’s physical, but does not act like ordinary physical objects? Why not a spiritual body? What is it that’s making you believe Christ’s glorified body is physical? Can you back up your claims?
 
Catechism

1017 “We believe in the true resurrection of this flesh that we now possess” (Council of Lyons II: DS 854). We sow a corruptible body in the tomb, but he raises up an incorruptible body, a “spiritual body” (cf. 1 Cor 15:42-44).

See at length scborromeo.org/ccc/p123a11.htm

and

scborromeo.org/ccc/p122a5p2.htm

The condition of Christ’s risen humanity

645 By means of touch and the sharing of a meal, the risen Jesus establishes direct contact with his disciples. He invites them in this way to recognize that he is not a ghost and above all to verify that the risen body in which he appears to them is the same body that had been tortured and crucified, for it still bears the traces of his Passion.509 Yet at the same time this authentic, real body possesses the new properties of a glorious body: not limited by space and time but able to be present how and when he wills; for Christ’s humanity can no longer be confined to earth, and belongs henceforth only to the Father’s divine realm.510 For this reason too the risen Jesus enjoys the sovereign freedom of appearing as he wishes: in the guise of a gardener or in other forms familiar to his disciples, precisely to awaken their faith.511

646 Christ’s Resurrection was not a return to earthly life, as was the case with the raisings from the dead that he had performed before Easter: Jairus’ daughter, the young man of Naim, Lazarus. These actions were miraculous events, but the persons miraculously raised returned by Jesus’ power to ordinary earthly life. At some particular moment they would die again. Christ’s Resurrection is essentially different. In his risen body he passes from the state of death to another life beyond time and space. At Jesus’ Resurrection his body is filled with the power of the Holy Spirit: he shares the divine life in his glorious state, so that St. Paul can say that Christ is “the man of heaven”.512
 
A “spiritual body” is a contradiction in terms. Spirit has no extension in space, no material properties. A human body is material. A glorified human body is material but possessing the preternatural gifts, including abilities that our present bodies do not have.
 
Compendium issued by Pope Benedict XVI

129. What is the condition of the risen body of Jesus?

645-646

The Resurrection of Christ was not a return to earthly life. His risen body is that which was crucified and bears the marks of his passion. However it also participates in the divine life, with the characteristics of a glorified body. Because of this the risen Jesus was utterly free to appear to his disciples how and where he wished and under various aspects.
 
Compendium (Pope Benedict XVI)

“I BELIEVE IN THE RESURRECTION OF THE BODY”

**202. What is the meaning of the term “body” (or “flesh”) and what importance does it have?
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990
1015

The resurrection of the flesh is the literal formulation in the Apostles Creed for the resurrection of the body. The term “flesh” refers to humanity in its state of weakness and mortality. “The flesh is the hinge of salvation” (Tertullian). We believe in God the Creator of the flesh; we believe in the Word made flesh in order to redeem flesh; and we believe in the resurrection of flesh which is the fulfillment of both the creation and the redemption of the flesh.
**
203. What is meant by the “resurrection of the body”?**

990

This means that the definitive state of man will not be one in which his spiritual soul is separated from his body. Even our mortal bodies will one day come to life again.
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204. What is the relationship between the Resurrection of Christ and our resurrection**?

998
1002-1003

Just as Christ is truly risen from the dead and now lives forever, so he himself will raise everyone on the last day with an incorruptible body: “Those who have done good will rise to the resurrection of life and those who have done evil to the resurrection of condemnation” (John 5:29).

vatican.va/archive/compendium_ccc/documents/archive_2005_compendium-ccc_en.html#I%20Believe%20in%20Jesus%20Christ,%20the%20Only%20Son%20of%20God
 
So you’re saying it’s physical, but does not act like ordinary physical objects? … What is it that’s making you believe Christ’s glorified body is physical? Can you back up your claims?
In fact, I can. Jesus himself went to great pains to demonstrate that he was not simply ‘spiritual’ or a ‘ghost’, but had a physical (albeit glorified) body:

Luke 24:36, 37, 38, 39-43
Jesus stood in their midst. … But they were startled and terrified and thought that they were seeing a ghost. Then he said to them, … "Look at my hands and my feet, that it is I myself. Touch me and see, because a ghost does not have flesh and bones as you can see I have.”
And as he said this, he showed them his hands and his feet.
While they were still incredulous for joy and were amazed, he asked them, “Have you anything here to eat?”
They gave him a piece of baked fish; he took it and ate it in front of them.
John 20:27
[Jesus] said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and see my hands, and bring your hand and put it into my side, and do not be unbelieving, but believe.”
Acts 10:40, 41
God raised [Jesus] (on) the third day and granted that he be visible … to us … who ate and drank with him after he rose from the dead.
The Scriptures are quite emphatic that Jesus was not just ‘spiritual’ or ghostly, but rather, truly present physically following His resurrection.
 
I think it is both. It is not just a body, but glorified.

-(especially of something or someone ordinary or unexceptional) represented in such a way as to appear more elevated or special
 
In fact, I can. Jesus himself went to great pains to demonstrate that he was not simply ‘spiritual’ or a ‘ghost’, but had a physical (albeit glorified) body:

Luke 24:36, 37, 38, 39-43

John 20:27

Acts 10:40, 41

The Scriptures are quite emphatic that Jesus was not just ‘spiritual’ or ghostly, but rather, truly present physically following His resurrection.
Yes, from what you say there I’m inclined to say that His body was physical, but please explain how a physical body can walk through a locked door.

Let me just add what Maimonides had to say about it:

“Man is not a soul bound in a transient body. If that were the case, resurrection would have little significance other than representing the soul’s return to its bodily prison…The Rambam says there will be no eating, drinking or sleeping in the World to Come (Rambam, Mishneh Torah, Laws of Repentance 8:2). This statement was the focal point of a dispute between Maimonides and Nachmonides, and has been deeply misunderstood. In the World to Come, the body will not be resurrected and then die. Maimonides says that after resurrection, the body will cease to be a body as we know it (ibid.). This cessation implies that** the body will instead become so holy that it will become spiritual, transcending the physical limitations imposed upon it in this earthly world.** Nevertheless, it will retain its sense of self-existence, its sense of being.”
aish.com/sp/ph/48929597.html
 
Also read this from the CCC:
The condition of Christ’s risen humanity
645 By means of touch and the sharing of a meal, the risen Jesus establishes direct contact with his disciples. He invites them in this way to recognize that he is not a ghost and above all to verify that the risen body in which he appears to them is the same body that had been tortured and crucified, for it still bears the traces of his passion. Yet at the same time this authentic, real body possesses the new properties of a glorious body: not limited by space and time but able to be present how and when he wills; for Christ’s humanity can no longer be confined to earth and belongs henceforth only to the Father’s divine realm. For this reason too the risen Jesus enjoys the sovereign freedom of appearing as he wishes: in the guise of a gardener or in other forms familiar to his disciples, precisely to awaken their faith.
 
I think it is both. It is not just a body, but glorified.

-(especially of something or someone ordinary or unexceptional) represented in such a way as to appear more elevated or special
Also read this from the CCC:
Body that is shown through (EDIT) another dimension but shows through the veil that was torn at Calvery into our dimension?

I tend to think of the body as the same one that was cruified (I agree) but the vibrational frequency of the body (atoms) are higher… thus able to do things that a normal body is limited doing, such as walking through walls.
 
A “spiritual body” is a contradiction in terms. Spirit has no extension in space, no material properties. A human body is material. A glorified human body is material but possessing the preternatural gifts, including abilities that our present bodies do not have.
‘Spiritual body’ is no more nor less than the English translation of the Pauline expression in Greek, “pneumatikon soma.”

Rather than imagining this as a spirit-being, it makes more sense as a solid body (soma) analogous to our own, but formed and vivified by pneuma, spirit; just as we now have solid bodies formed and vivified by psychic or natural life (“natural body,” psychikon soma).

Our LORD’s Resurrectional body was at least in part, physical, as it resumed his original body (with the marks in the hands and feet).

ICXC NIKA.
 
‘Spiritual body’ is no more nor less than the English translation of the Pauline expression in Greek, “pneumatikon soma.”

Rather than imagining this as a spirit-being, it makes more sense as a solid body (soma) analogous to our own, but formed and vivified by pneuma, spirit; just as we now have solid bodies formed and vivified by psychic or natural life (“natural body,” psychikon soma).

Our LORD’s Resurrectional body was at least in part, physical, as it resumed his original body (with the marks in the hands and feet).

ICXC NIKA.
Our current earthly living body is also a body which is vivified by spirit. Our soul, which is spirit is the animating principle of the body. Our glorified and resurrected bodies will also be human bodies animated by a human soul, but having properties superior to our current body.

Of course Jesus’ resurrected body was physical: it is a body, animated by a spiritual soul; but the body is glorified and the soul has the beatific vision. (Of course Jesus always had the Beatific Vision, but we don’t, until heaven.)
 
Only apparent…

See the quotes I just provided (a few posts)
Yes, but I don’t think the quotes actually used the term “spiritual body.” I am using the words spirit and body in their strict theological sense. A body is matter, a spirit is not matter.
 
Yes, from what you say there I’m inclined to say that His body was physical, but please explain how a physical body can walk through a locked door.
Ask me in the eschaton, when we’ll all have glorified bodies. 😉

Seriously though: there’s no way to explain ‘how’, since those kinds of explanations require observation, testing, hypothesis, and verification. Since Jesus is the only possessor of a glorified body that walked the earth, there’s no way to answer that question.
Let me just add what Maimonides had to say about it:
the body will instead become so holy that it will become spiritual, transcending the physical limitations imposed upon it in this earthly world.
And Maimonides has particular factual insight on this question because…? :hmmm:
 
Soul and body are one, although in our present states, the physical parts of us prevent us from from doing certain things like walking through walls, but Jesus in His glorified form does not have such limitations.
 
We know that Christ’s glorious body had flesh and bone, and that He did eat, and so we may think His body as being physical; but we also know that He walked right though a locked door which implies a purely spiritual body.
Christ’s resurrected and Glorified body was just as ours will be. It is truly physical but it had the same special qualities of all the just who will rise from the dead. The Roman Catechism describes the glorified bodies of the just as follows:

" THE QUALITIES OF A GLORIFIED BODY

IMPASSIBILITY

The first endowment or gift is impassibility, which shall place them beyond the reach of suffering anything disagreeable or of being affected by pain or inconvenience of any sort. Neither the piercing severity of cold, nor the glowing intensity of heat, nor the impetuosity of waters can hurt them. It is sown, says the Apostle, in corruption, it shall rise in incorruption.41 This quality the Schoolmen call impassibility, not incorruption, in order to distinguish it as a property peculiar to a glorified body. The bodies of the damned, though incorruptible, will not be impassible; they will be capable of experiencing heat and cold and of suffering various afflictions.

BRIGHTNESS ( or Clarity )

The next quality is brightness, by which the bodies of the Saints shall shine like the sun, according to the words of our Lord recorded in the Gospel of St. Matthew: The just shall shine as the sun, in the kingdom of their Father.42 To remove the possibility of doubt on the subject, He exemplifies this in His Transfiguration.43 This quality the Apostle sometimes calls glory, sometimes brightness: He will reform the body of our lowness, made like to the body of his glory;44 and again, It is sown in dishonour, it shall rise in glory.45 Of this glory the Israelites beheld some image in the desert, when the face of Moses, after he had enjoyed the presence and conversation of God, shone with such lustre that they could not look on it.46

This brightness is a sort of radiance reflected on the body from the supreme happiness of the soul. It is a participation in that bliss which the soul enjoys, just as the soul itself is rendered happy by a participation in the happiness of God.

Unlike the gift of impassibility, this quality is not common to all in the same degree. All the bodies of the Saints will be equally impassible; but the brightness of all will not be the same, for, according to the Apostle, One is the glory of the sun, another the glory of the moon, and another the glory of the stars, for star differeth from star In glory: so also is the resurrection of the dead.47

AGILITY

To the preceding quality is united that which is called agility, by which the body will be freed from the heaviness that now presses it down, and will take on a capability of moving with the utmost ease and swiftness, wherever the soul pleases, as St. Augustine teaches in his book On the City of God,48 and St. Jerome On Isaias.49 Hence these words of the Apostle: It is sown in weakness, it shall rise in power.50

SUBTILITY

Another quality is that of subtility, which subjects the body to the dominion of the soul, so that the body shall be subject to the soul and ever ready to follow her desires. This quality we learn from these words of the Apostle: It is sown a natural body, it shall rise a spiritual body.51

These are the principal points which should be dwelt on in the exposition of this Article.*

Advantages of Deep Meditation on this Article

But in order that the faithful may appreciate the fruit they derive from a knowledge of so many and such exalted mysteries, it is necessary, first of all, to point out that to God, who has hidden these things from the wise and made them known to little ones, we owe a debt of boundless gratitude. How many men, eminent for wisdom or endowed with singular learning, who ever remained blind to this most certain truth! The fact, then, that He has made known to us these truths, although we could never have aspired to such knowledge, obliges us to pour forth our gratitude in unceasing praises of His supreme goodness and clemency.

Another important advantage to be derived from reflection on this Article is that in it we shall find consolation both for ourselves and others when we mourn the death of those who were endeared to us by relationship or friendship. Such was the consolation which the Apostle himself gave the Thessalonians when writing to them concerning those who are asleep.52

Again, in all our afflictions and calamities the thought of a future resurrection must bring the greatest relief to the troubled heart, as we learn from the example of holy Job, who supported his afflicted and sorrowing soul by this one hope that the day would come when, in the resurrection, he would behold the Lord his God.53

The same thought must also prove a powerful incentive to the faithful to use every exertion to lead lives of rectitude and integrity, unsullied by the defilement of sin. For if they reflect that those boundless riches which will follow after the resurrection are now offered to them as rewards, they will be easily attracted to the pursuit of virtue and piety.

On the other hand, nothing will have greater effect in subduing the passions and withdrawing souls from sin, than frequently to remind the sinner of the miseries and torments with which the reprobate will be visited, who on the last day will come forth unto the resurrection of judgment.54 "

Article Eleven catecheticsonline.com/Trent.php

You can also read the following reflection:

parishableitems.wordpress.co…l-be-like-his/

Fr. Feltes is a regular blogger and well worth following.

Linus2nd
 
Yes, but I don’t think the quotes actually used the term “spiritual body.”.
It is yes a term that is used by the Catechism (I posted various quotes you just missed one)
…as does Saint Paul in Sacred Scripture (from where it comes from).

Catechism

1017 “We believe in the true resurrection of this flesh that we now possess” (Council of Lyons II: DS 854). We sow a corruptible body in the tomb, but he raises up an incorruptible body, a “spiritual body” (cf. 1 Cor 15:42-44).

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