Was it wood or Marble? WBTS stuff or insanity? or both?

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MarysRoses said:
Maybe it was petrified wood.

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rr1213 said:
Nice šŸ˜ƒ
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Iā€™ve got a chunk of that stuff around here someplaceā€¦Maybe the attic?? I donā€™t knowā€¦
It was the paperweight on my motherā€™s desk when she taught schoolā€¦Interesting stuff. Didnā€™t look like marble to me, thoughā€¦
Of course, I havenā€™t run across it in 25 or 30 years. What do:nope: I know???
 
About the History Channel, I have so often been annoyed, vexed, and actually angered by the ā€œslantā€ on history as given by the History Channel.

I told my 15yo son not to believe all that he heard and saw on that station, because of revisionist history and he looked at me as if I had 2 heads, and one of them was on backwards!!!:eek:

Just because there appears to be a problem with lack of trees NOW in the Holy Land doesnā€™t mean there always was. After all, Jerusalem is so much bigger now than in the time of Christ, so who is to say there was a scarcity of trees? You know, our children donā€™t get the greatest of education these days compared to when I was growing up (not that long ago, just seems like it).

Merry Christmas to you all!
Patti
 
Hey Zooey!

I hope I dont wind up in the looney bin, but if I do, its really sweet you thought to visit me there.

PattiC- I hope one day your son will see that (as we all do eventually) mom does not have 2 heads, and mom is only trying to help!

Mine is coming in tomorrow and the place is still a mess. I am working on it but I have to admit Its not fun.šŸ˜¦

Merry Christmas to all! Oh, and to Valke2- Lach chiam! sp?
 
Damascus said:
Thanks everyone. I am a still wondering about the whole Cross thing though.

How do we address the issue of an actual Cross and not a stake>?
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Okay this is probably REALLY WILD IN TERMS OF SPECULATIONā€¦ Iā€™m definitely not going to pretend I know anything about this time periodā€¦ so here goes the wild speculationā€¦ Romans, of whom I guessing already had water aquaducts (redundant?), knew how to construct theseā€¦ is it possible they made them out of wood (if trees did exist in this place and time)? If so, is it possible there were would be ā€œremnantsā€ that were used to make crosses or fuel fires, or?.. or based on historical fact does the forestry of this region at the time preclude the idea of wood-made aquaducts? I donā€™t knowā€¦ just throwing an idea out there šŸ™‚
 
PattiC said:
About the History Channel, I have so often been annoyed, vexed, and actually angered by the ā€œslantā€ on history as given by the History Channel.

I told my 15yo son not to believe all that he heard and saw on that station, because of revisionist history and he looked at me as if I had 2 heads, and one of them was on backwards!!!:eek:

Just because there appears to be a problem with lack of trees NOW in the Holy Land doesnā€™t mean there always was. After all, Jerusalem is so much bigger now than in the time of Christ, so who is to say there was a scarcity of trees? You know, our children donā€™t get the greatest of education these days compared to when I was growing up (not that long ago, just seems like it).

Merry Christmas to you all!
Patti
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What does the size of Jerusalem have to do with the shortage of trees? As I had said earlier, according to Josephus, the Romans walked 10 miles to get timber for their war machines. This suggests that wood was scarce in Jerusalem itself.
 
Valke2 said:
What does the size of Jerusalem have to do with the shortage of trees? As I had said earlier, according to Josephus, the Romans walked 10 miles to get timber for their war machines. This suggests that wood was scarce in Jerusalem itself.
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Why donā€™t we just build a time machine and find out for ourselves?? šŸ˜ƒ
 
Valke2 said:
What does the size of Jerusalem have to do with the shortage of trees? As I had said earlier, according to Josephus, the Romans walked 10 miles to get timber for their war machines. This suggests that wood was scarce in Jerusalem itself.
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I am going to agree with you and disagree with you valke. I agree that wood suitable for building war machines was scarce near jerusalem. However, that does not mean tht wood itself was scarce, in order to build a siege engine you need fairly straight and strong wood. In order to crucify someone you just need two sticks that will support someones weight.

So even if sources from the time say that wood for seige engines are scarce, it does not mean that all wood was scarce.

A lone Raven
 
yessisan said:
Why donā€™t we just build a time machine and find out for ourselves?? šŸ˜ƒ
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Yea! Letā€™s get all of the people who are Star Trek fans together on this forum and figure out how we can do this! Iā€™m sure there are enough of us, that with our combined brain power, we can figure it out!šŸ˜›
 
mommyof4 said:
Yea! Letā€™s get all of the people who are Star Trek fans together on this forum and figure out how we can do this! Iā€™m sure there are enough of us, that with our combined brain power, we can figure it out!šŸ˜›
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:clapping: Yeah! Letā€™s! :rotfl:
 
corvidae said:
I am going to agree with you and disagree with you valke. I agree that wood suitable for building war machines was scarce near jerusalem. However, that does not mean tht wood itself was scarce, in order to build a siege engine you need fairly straight and strong wood. In order to crucify someone you just need two sticks that will support someones weight.

So even if sources from the time say that wood for seige engines are scarce, it does not mean that all wood was scarce.

A lone Raven
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You are actually agreeing with me and agreeing with me. In one of my posts I said that they probably used wood that was not good for much else.
 
Valke2 said:
You are actually agreeing with me and agreeing with me. In one of my posts I said that they probably used wood that was not good for much else.
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ok, I am fine with that. I just thought I would point it out since that post was vague. I guess I must have skipped over an earlier post.

Sorry Valke,

I am happy to be in agreement with you

A lone Raven

p.s. I vote for a marble time machine, just to be on the safe side.
 
Damascus said:
I just got off the phone with my Jw mom.

I told her is it not interesting Christ was placed in an ugly wooden manger at birth and died on wood (in her speak torture stake, in mine Cross)

She told me ā€œwe just dont know and at that time it could have been MARBLEā€

???:confused:

Has anyone heard this WBTS thought before or is this my mom going insane?

She claims a cross would not have been possible due to ā€œthe shortage of wood at the timeā€?

:confused:

Okay, now I never heard this Marble thing before. Mind you she has been a JW a LONG time. So is this WBTS stuff or is my Mom loosing her bleeping mind?
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Interestingly enough, I was just watching part of a documentary called ā€œThe Mystery of Christmasā€ the other day (I think this is the only documentary Iā€™ve seen that actually SUPPORTED Christian claims instead of using every means possible of refuting them šŸ‘ ) and there they said taht feeding troughs in Bethlehem at the time were made of stone (they even showed one). This, according to the researchers in the documentary, is most likely what Jesusā€™ manger would have been made of. Yes, there was a shortage of wood, but come, on, crucifixion was a common Roman practice - they would have worked their way around it.
 
Valke wroteā€¦

What does the size of Jerusalem have to do with the shortage of trees?

I was making the assumption that the land outside the walls was available for forestry. Ya, I know about the word assume!

Happy Holidays, Valke šŸ™‚

And Damascusā€¦ today I feel like I have a very large head the size of two šŸ˜¦ Got an awful head cold and for the first time in years, laryngitisā€¦ for me that is a penance, not being able to speak. And I was gonna call my daughter and future sil too.
:confused: Maybe the Holy Spirit decided I shouldnā€™t speak so as to put my size 11 foot in my mouth again, LOL.
But it is something I do really really well!

Merry Christmas, D!

Patti
 
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