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Was Jesus really born on December 25th? Dr. Taylor Marshall
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JimR-OCDS
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Luke 1:26 places the Annunciation in the sixth month of the year, or March.
The Angel Gabriel told Mary that her cousin Elizabeth had conceived and was in her sixth month. This means Elizabeth conceived in the 1st month of the Year.
Nine months from March is December. How they ended up on December 25 is debatable, but the Church claimed to once have the records of the Roman Census with the names of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, but this has never been proven.
December 25th was never a Pagan Holiday, and this article explains the entire thing.
The Angel Gabriel told Mary that her cousin Elizabeth had conceived and was in her sixth month. This means Elizabeth conceived in the 1st month of the Year.
Nine months from March is December. How they ended up on December 25 is debatable, but the Church claimed to once have the records of the Roman Census with the names of Jesus, Mary and Joseph, but this has never been proven.
December 25th was never a Pagan Holiday, and this article explains the entire thing.
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TomH1
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I watched his video and was not convinced by it at all.
I then did a quick background check. He’s a philosopher and for one his arguments are appallingly poor.
I don’t think the actual date on which Christ was born is important. The Church has never, to the best of my knowledge, officially taught He was born on December 25th. What is important is that the Incarnation happened.
I then did a quick background check. He’s a philosopher and for one his arguments are appallingly poor.
I don’t think the actual date on which Christ was born is important. The Church has never, to the best of my knowledge, officially taught He was born on December 25th. What is important is that the Incarnation happened.
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Anrakyr
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Not the point. Yuletide been celebrated in Germany for ages. Romans also has Saturnalia which amounts to the same thing.
Holiday replacement.
Holiday replacement.
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Anrakyr
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Because roman festival for the god Saturn can’t predate Christ? Cause Germans were not being Germanic in Germany?
I fail to see the logic here.
I fail to see the logic here.
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Dan_Defender
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One has to remember that we are talking about two different calendars. The six month does not exactly align with March.Luke 1:26 places the Annunciation in the sixth month of the year, or March.
I have seen arguments that end of November is possible as is beginning of January. In the end, we do not know the exact date.Nine months from March is December.
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RaisedCatholic
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I came across this several years ago. It’s not from a Catholic source, but I have found the site to be pretty informative.
Was Jesus born on December 25th?
Was Jesus born on December 25th?
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JimR-OCDS
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But we’re using the Gregorian calendar and the translation which came about.
Again, December is all predicated on the announcement of the conception of Elizabeth.
Again, December is all predicated on the announcement of the conception of Elizabeth.
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tafan2
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No we don’t know the year. But what is interesting is how various events described in thel gospel all coincide to give us the same range of years. The 15th year of the reign of Tiberius, the 46th year of the temple construction, the death of Herod, etc all give a consistent range for the date of the events. All of which have their own estimates, but it does all seem to be in sync. The only exception would be the census mentioned, which seems to be questionable if it even occurred.
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