Was Jesus risen at Saturday night or Sunday morning?

[savedbychrist]

Mentioning the first evidence of His resurrection, which is the empty tomb, the Gospels say these about the time:

After the sabbath, as the first day of the week was dawning, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary came to see the tomb. (Matthew 28:1)

Very early when the sun had risen, on the first day of the week, they came to the tomb. (Mark 16:2)

But at daybreak on the first day of the week they took the spices they had prepared and went to the tomb. (Luke 24:1)

On the first day of the week, Mary of Magdala came to the tomb early in the morning, while it was still dark, and saw the stone removed from the tomb. (John 20:1)

So apparently, the tomb was only discovered empty at Sunday morning (dawn). However, whether Jesus only rose at Sunday morning or in Saturday evening, is not recorded. As the Jewish calander uses sunset as the breaking line between days, both Saturday evening and Sunday morning would be “on the third day” of His Passion, which is the “first day of the week” (i.e. the day after Sabbath).

In Easter Vigil Mass, we sing Alleluia and Glory to God. Does this mean that we think Jesus is already risen at that time (i.e. Saturday night)? Or we are actually still awaiting His resurrection at Sunday morning?

 

[FOG]

Maybe it would be helpful to examine a broader scriptural context.

Throughout the Gospels it is explicitly stated that he would rise “on the 3rd day”.

If we concluded from the Gospel that he died on Friday, and was buried before the Sabbath, that Christ was entombed on Friday (1st day), his body would have remained entombed on Saturday (2nd day) and to fulfill scripture would have been resurrected “on the third day” (Sunday).

So, Sunday morning seems to be the answer.

 

[BartholomewB]

Have you ever found any writer, ancient or modern, who claims the Resurrection occurred before midnight, i.e. when it was still Saturday night according to the Greek and Roman calendars, but already the First Day according to the Jewish calendar?

 

[DaveBj]

Maybe it would be helpful to examine a broader scriptural context.

Throughout the Gospels it is explicitly stated that he would rise “on the 3rd day”.

If we concluded from the Gospel that he died on Friday, and was buried before the Sabbath, that Christ was entombed on Friday (1st day), his body would have remained entombed on Saturday (2nd day) and to fulfill scripture would have been resurrected “on the third day” (Sunday).

So, Sunday morning seems to be the answer.

Bear in mind that the Jews considered the old day to be ended the the new day to be begun at sunset. So, theoretically, any time after 1800 hours or so would have been Sunday, the 3rd day. That said, I personally believe that it was close to sunrise, but nothing can be proven.

D

 

[rstrats]

FOG,
re: "Throughout the Gospels it is explicitly stated that he would rise ‘on the 3rd day’”.

And since Mark 8:31 has the Messiah saying that He would rise after the 3rd day, all the references to Him rising “on the 3rd day” must be referring to the 3rd day after His death. And this is supported by Matthew 12:40 and Luke 24:21.

As to a 7th day versus 1st day of the week resurrection, Mark 16:9 indicates that it was on the 1st day of the week.

 

[mythbuster1]

The Sabbath ends at sundown. Before or after midnight makes no difference. What is clear is that He had already risen before the sunrise on Sunday.

 

[Gorgias]

However, whether Jesus only rose at Sunday morning or in Saturday evening, is not recorded. As the Jewish calander uses sunset as the breaking line between days, both Saturday evening and Sunday morning would be “on the third day” of His Passion, which is the “first day of the week” (i.e. the day after Sabbath).

I’m trying to understand your question, then. If the Jewish understanding of the ‘third day’ is the day that begins at sunset Saturday and ends at sunset Sunday… then why would ‘Saturday before midnight or Sunday after midnight’ make a difference?

 

[bassmansteiny]

Ok my brain hurts now

 

[Bruce_Killian]

Have you ever found any writer, ancient or modern, who claims the Resurrection occurred before midnight, i.e. when it was still Saturday night according to the Greek and Roman calendars, but already the First Day according to the Jewish calendar?

I’m trying to understand your question, then. If the Jewish understanding of the ‘third day’ is the day that begins at sunset Saturday and ends at sunset Sunday… then why would ‘Saturday before midnight or Sunday after midnight’ make a difference?

May who read Matt 12:40 see Jesus rising after sundown on Saturday evening because they have Him buried on Wednesday Evening so He was in the tomb for three days and three nights. This is wrong because on the Emmaus road it was the third day so He was buried on Friday.
Jesus rose in fulfillment of the first fruit of the barley harvest which was offered during the day so dawn Sunday. The earthquake that Sunday morning was what waved Jesus the barley.
Grace and peace, Bruce

 

[John_Martin]

“And there was EVENING and morning…”
At sunset Evening preceded morning, Sunday.
Sunday Evening is prior to Sunday Morning.

Saturday evening happened 3 hours after Jesus died - that is why they had to bury him so fast.

Friday evening He was betrayed in the dark in Gethsemane, and put on trial before Pilate on Friday morning.

 

[savedbychrist]

why would ‘Saturday before midnight or Sunday after midnight’ make a difference?

The importance is on the attitude of observing Easter Vigil. Should we be celebrating the Ressurection, or awaiting the Resurrection?

 

[Gertabelle]

Gorgias:

why would ‘Saturday before midnight or Sunday after midnight’ make a difference?

The importance is on the attitude of observing Easter Vigil. Should we be celebrating the Ressurection, or awaiting the Resurrection?

The resurrection has already happened. We are not leave the Good Friday service pretending Jesus is dead. On Good Friday, we commemorate the death of Christ.

The Easter Vigil is a celebration of the moment of Christ’s resurrection. It doesn’t have to take place at the exact moment the resurrection took place in order to celebrate it.

Just a few generations ago, the Easter Vigil was celebrated mid-day on Holy Saturday. And we celebrate the resurrection each and every Sunday.

Out of curiosity, have you been to the Easter Vigil mass? There is absolutely no confusion whatsoever about what you are celebrating when you attend that mass. It is an extraordinary experience!

 

[Gorgias]

Jesus rose in fulfillment of the first fruit of the barley harvest which was offered during the day

Hmm… I have to admit – that’s the first time I’ve ever even heard that kind of suggestion. Care to elaborate or substantiate it?

The earthquake that Sunday morning was what waved Jesus the barley.

Not quite sure what you’re attempting to say here. Are you suggesting that Jesus’ “wave offering” was an earthquake? (Again… novel theological innovation. )

The importance is on the attitude of observing Easter Vigil. Should we be celebrating the Ressurection, or awaiting the Resurrection?

On the evening of Holy Saturday? We should be celebrating the resurrection, since – by Jewish understanding and in the context of that time – it’s already resurrection day.

 

[Mintaka]

Actually, the waving of the barley offering was always done in the shape of a sign of the cross.

The earthquake was the angel rolling back the stone. (Like Jacob rolled back the well stone for Rachel, so the sheep could be watered… and the flock showed up at Jesus’ tomb…)

Friday was the first day that Jesus was in the tomb. Any portion of a day counts as a whole day. (And this shows up elsewhere in the Bible.)

 

[mythbuster1]

In fact, the Exultet even says we don’t know the hour of Christ’s Resurrection, only that it happened during the night.

 

[rose321]

May who read Matt 12:40 see Jesus rising after sundown on Saturday evening because they have Him buried on Wednesday Evening so He was in the tomb for three days and three nights. This is wrong because on the Emmaus road it was the third day so He was buried on Friday.

Respectfully opinion only…In seeking out understanding of the Passover was a week of celebration… which lasted for 7-8 days in the time of Jesus…right? Continues for the Jewish people till this day does it not?

Seeking out understanding also, there were 3 Holy Sabbaths that take place in the Week of The Passover. in Jesus time and still today right?.
Low Sabbath takes place… preparation , then what follows is
The High Sabbath (sacrifice the meal) and ends
Weekly Sabbath…right? This depends on which day Passover begins right?
All Holy Sabbaths, begin at 6 pm sunset and end at sunset 6 pm, the beginning of a new day?
Not all Passovers fall every year on the same day…right?

This year Passover week begins in the evening sunset at 6 pm April 20th and ends April 27th …last for 7-8 days
1st Low Sabbath preparation sunset on Friday April 19th
2nd High Sabbath (sacrifice meal ) Sat. April 20th (falls on their weekly Sabbath this year?) This does not happen often does it?

Have to go back in time what day the Passover week day began
30 AD? 31 AD? 32 AD? or 33 AD?..to see when the Day of Passover fell on, changes every year…does it not?
Scripture writes the Passover is to begin on the …14th of Nisan…right and this continues till this day,?

2016 Passover Week April 22-April 30th
2017 Passover Week April 10-April 18th
2018 Passover Week began on March 30th April 7th
2019 Passover Week begins Friday April 20-April 27th. …on the 5770 Passover Day right?
Interesting is all…

Why do we call it Holy Thursday before Easter Sunday??

If the Passover day fell on a Thurs…it would begin on
Wed at sunset 6 pm … which begins a new Day… Thurs …and Thurs ends in the evening at sunset at 6 pm, begins a new day …Fri…sunset to sunset begins a new day right?.

Sun/Mon… Mon/Tues…Tues/ Wed…Wed/Thurs… Thurs/Fri …Fri/Sat…Sat/Sun…Sun/Mon …interesting is all.

So in Jesus time a …new day… began at
Sunset in the evening… 6 pm and ended at sunset 6 pm begins a new day…?.
A New Day began at sunset and ends at sunset, right?

Our new day begins at 12 AM --midnight to midnight right?
Pope Benedict great Theologian writes explain more on this within his writings…

Just interesting is all…Peace…

 

[Bruce_Killian]

Respectfully opinion only…In seeking out understanding of the Passover was a week of celebration… which lasted for 7-8 days in the time of Jesus…right? Continues for the Jewish people till this day does it not?

Actually Passover was only one day, but it coincided with the start of the week of unleavened bread. While many think Passover was a Sabbath it could not be because Israel started their journey from Egypt on Passover and on a Sabbath a journey from a city was limited to less than a mile. The week of unleavened bread is frequently included when people refer to the Passover feast, because the men needed to stay near Jerusalem for the week. Jews to this day celebrate passover but not as fully as in Jesus day because there is no longer a Temple where the passover lambs can be sacrificed. In the year Jesus died there the official Passover was on Saturday the standard passover. But Jesus also kept the solar passover which was Wednesday. This is a complicated subject. For some explanation see my work on the chronology of Jesus http://www.scripturescholar.com/ChronologyJesus.pdf starting around page 68. Jesus died in AD 33 because in that year Passover was on Friday and there was a blood moon referred to by Peter I believe in Acts 2:20.

 

[Bruce_Killian]

Not quite sure what you’re attempting to say here. Are you suggesting that Jesus’ “wave offering” was an earthquake? (Again… novel theological innovation. )

God with an earthquake shook Jesus’ body the sheaf of grain of the first fruits of the barley harvest before He was raised and coincident with the rolling back of the tomb stone door.

First Fruits Offering (Leviticus 23:9-14)
On the first Sunday following Passover, a priest brought a sheaf [omer] of the first fruits of the barley harvest, as a wave offering. He also offered a spotless male lamb as a holocaust. This day the people could start to harvest their barley, the first harvest of the year. This offering would be suspended during the Sabbath and Jubilee years because there was no harvest, so in Jesus case it would be the first time it was offered in three years.

The earthquake, at Jesus’ resurrection, waved Jesus, the sheaf of grain. God took the Lamb as a holocaust, with holy fire. During that earthquake, most everyone in Jerusalem woke because of the shaking, including some dead saints (as part of the first fruit offering) from their graves, and they went into Jerusalem for a time (Matthew 27:51-52). Usually, during or immediately after a strong earthquake everyone goes outside for safety.

The earthquake also waved the newly risen saints. Jesus and these saints were the first fruits of the harvest. They could not go to heaven yet, because Jesus had not yet gone there (John 20:17). The context implies they were permanently resurrected. Moses placed a omer [sheaf] of manna, before the Ark of the Covenant, in the holy of holies, in a basket. Jesus was the better bread from heaven. The day of the resurrection, is always the first Sunday following Passover, which in English we call Easter.

 

[BartholomewB]

While many think Passover was a Sabbath it could not be because Israel started their journey from Egypt on Passover and on a Sabbath a journey from a city was limited to less than a mile.

That rule certainly applies today, when an adjustment is made, if necessary, to the Jewish calendar to ensure that Passover will fall on some other day of the week. In the Herodian period, however, the beginning of each month was determined primarily by observation of the new moon, and it seems to be generally accepted by historians that Passover did, then, sometimes coincide with the Sabbath.

 

[Gorgias]

God with an earthquake shook Jesus’ body the sheaf of grain of the first fruits of the barley harvest

That’s a novel interpretation. Where are you getting this from?