Was Margaret Sanger opposed to abortion?

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I have catholic friends who said she supported it. They are PP’s members. Yet a search at CA brings up an article saying she was opposed to abortion. But no citation is given. Just the statement.

Can anyone clarify this?

BTW, Sanger founded Planned Parenthood.
 
rien said:
I have catholic friends who said she supported it. They are PP’s members. Yet a search at CA brings up an article saying she was opposed to abortion. But no citation is given. Just the statement.

Can anyone clarify this?

BTW, Sanger founded Planned Parenthood.
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Just for clarification - your friends who are supporters of Planned Parenthood say Margaret Sanger opposed abortion,is this correct? 🙂
 
Jennifer123 said:
Just for clarification - your friends who are supporters of Planned Parenthood say Margaret Sanger opposed abortion,is this correct? 🙂
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Yes it is. They give lots of money to PP and say PP segregates thgeir money to non-abortion causes. Sort of in respect for Sanger being anti-abortion. I’m trying to find out if the latter is true.
 
rien said:
I have catholic friends who said she supported it. They are PP’s members. Yet a search at CA brings up an article saying she was opposed to abortion. But no citation is given. Just the statement.

Can anyone clarify this?

BTW, Sanger founded Planned Parenthood.
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quick search of forum threads with Sanger in the title brings up this one with her quotes
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=57905&page=2&highlight=Sanger
but I note nothing that says she opposed abortion

please give a link to the CA article to which you refer.

the rules for this forum specify you must refer to a news article in the title and post a link to the reliable news source for the article. If this thread is not about a Catholic news article and no link is forthcoming, it should be closed or moved.
 
Tell your “Catholic” friends that the supposive “segregation” of funds is a falsehood. What it really means is that there is more funds for murder.

Sanger was not only supported abortion, she supported sterilization of undesirables (i.e. minorities and the mentally handicapped) and eugenics.

By supporting PP they are working against the Catholic Church, causing scandal, and committing mortal sin.
 
Well, the only thing I’ve heard of this before is that she said she would not be opposed to abortion if it was “safe and legal”…sound familiar?? 😉
 
puzzleannie said:
quick search of forum threads with Sanger in the title brings up this one with her quotes
forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=57905&page=2&highlight=Sanger
but I note nothing that says she opposed abortion

please give a link to the CA article to which you refer.

the rules for this forum specify you must refer to a news article in the title and post a link to the reliable news source for the article. If this thread is not about a Catholic news article and no link is forthcoming, it should be closed or moved.
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I can’t tell you how much I appreciate you being a member of the posting police.

Here is the link:

catholic.com/thisrock/2006/0609tbt.asp

And here is the non-referenced statement

“The crusade for legalized abortion began in the birth control and eugenics crusades of the early twentieth century. Such views were far out of the mainstream of American life and had little impact on the general culture. There was no populist movement to legalize abortion, and many within the eugenics crusade shied away from the issue entirely. Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood and the heroine of the birth control movement, deplored abortion as a dangerous procedure that poor women were forced to undergo, an underground scourge to be eradicated. Abortion wasn’t a right to Sanger; it was a social failure.”

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Margaret Sanger supported abortion, sterilizations, and euthanasia …

Margaret Sanger even traveled to Germany to meet with Hitler’'s architect of the final solution … to look at the work done on those who were un-desirable [race, handicapped, low inteligence etc.].

After WWII Margaret Sanger knew she had to find a nuanced method to accomplish her goals. Planned parenthood lerned from her well … now ‘official’ biographies leave out her record on the eugenics issues … they turned the terminology on its head … “planned” parenthood, family planning … birth control … nuanced still means no birth, no control … poor, disabled and un-desirables are still the target …
 
YADA said:
Margaret Sanger supported abortion, sterilizations, and euthanasia …

Margaret Sanger even traveled to Germany to meet with Hitler’'s architect of the final solution … to look at the work done on those who were un-desirable [race, handicapped, low inteligence etc.].

After WWII Margaret Sanger knew she had to find a nuanced method to accomplish her goals. Planned parenthood lerned from her well … now ‘official’ biographies leave out her record on the eugenics issues … they turned the terminology on its head … “planned” parenthood, family planning … birth control … nuanced still means no birth, no control … poor, disabled and un-desirables are still the target …
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Links please! Cause if you are correct the CA article I linked above is very mis-leading.
 
rien said:
Links please! Cause if you are correct the CA article I linked above is very mis-leading.
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Well, I do not have any links, I will have to search for some *…

I read a book [biography] about Margaret Sanger from the late 50’s early 60’s [it was over thrity years ago … it is no longer available in your local libraries [it was removed and current biographies leave out much of this - you can say that many books go out of print - but I believe that this is one certan people wanted to be out of print]…*
 
YADA said:
Here are some links to articles that cover the topic:

spectacle.org/997/richmond.html

This is also by Richmond:

lifeadvocate.org/1_98/feature.htm

Additional sites:

jonjayray.tripod.com/sanger.html

acts1711.com/sanger.htm

Please understand, I want to emphasise that the biography I read that covered these same topics pre-dated Roe V Wade and the modern day propoganda about “choice” and other euphamisms and politicalization …
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Thank you. This is the kind of stuff I am looking for.
 
rien said:
an underground scourge to be eradicated.
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This is what I was referencing - she was opposed to abortion being done in “unsafe and dangerous conditions” - I use quotes because those who want abortion to be “safe”, as Sanger did, won’t acknowledge the inherent risk that the abortive procedure itself carries. Any invasive procedure, whether it’s the ripping of a human baby from its womb for the intent to end its life or the pulling of a wisdom tooth, is unsafe if done in unsanitary conditions.
 
Jennifer123 said:
This is what I was referencing - she was opposed to abortion being done in “unsafe and dangerous conditions” - I use quotes because those who want abortion to be “safe”, as Sanger did, won’t acknowledge the inherent risk that the abortive procedure itself carries. Any invasive procedure, whether it’s the ripping of a human baby from its womb for the intent to end its life or the pulling of a wisdom tooth, is unsafe if done in unsanitary conditions.
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IMHO, reading about Sanger’s opinions and philosophies, her concern for the life of the mother would have been moderated by the

1] status of the mother [and if she was un-desirable race, low social economic status and low IQ or had a disability /health issue, especially if genetic in origin] where her thoughts regarding the value of the individual person would govern her concern …

2] her desire to mainstream the practices that eliminated the ‘lessers’ [as in death to abortion makes for bad press and is harder to reap reimbursement for]…

Mind you this is just my opinion … my mom always told me to consider the source and follow the money … Planned Parenthood still follows the core values and policies of its foundress … the apple does not fall far from the tree …
 
rien said:
Yes it is. They give lots of money to PP and say PP segregates thgeir money to non-abortion causes. Sort of in respect for Sanger being anti-abortion. I’m trying to find out if the latter is true.
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hahahahahahahahaha.

Do I have your permission to add this to my “quote of the month” section?

Next time your “catholic” friends talk about the good works of planned parenthood (which used to be the American Birth Control League) ask them why African American women count for 30% of their abortion services when they are only about 12% of our population. Or ask them why almost every single PP chapter in America has a record of 0 adoption referrals for the fiscal year of 2005-2006.
 
YADA said:
IMHO, reading about Sanger’s opinions and philosophies, her concern for the life of the mother would have been moderated by the

1] status of the mother [and if she was un-desirable race, low social economic status and low IQ or had a disability /health issue, especially if genetic in origin] where her thoughts regarding the value of the individual person would govern her concern …

2] her desire to mainstream the practices that eliminated the ‘lessers’ [as in death to abortion makes for bad press and is harder to reap reimbursement for]…

Mind you this is just my opinion … my mom always told me to consider the source and follow the money … Planned Parenthood still follows the core values and policies of its foundress … the apple does not fall far from the tree …
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So my firends say Sanger opposed abortion and that is why they support PP. But you say she opposed it only on the safety of the mother. But isn’t that the stance of the Caholic church? f the mother has uterine cancer and and is pregnant and a removal of the cancer will only save her but will kill the fetus - is that licit or not by church teaching?
 
hasikelee said:
hahahahahahahahaha.

Do I have your permission to add this to my “quote of the month” section?

Next time your “catholic” friends talk about the good works of planned parenthood (which used to be the American Birth Control League) ask them why African American women count for 30% of their abortion services when they are only about 12% of our population. Or ask them why almost every single PP chapter in America has a record of 0 adoption referrals for the fiscal year of 2005-2006.
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Source please.
 
rien said:
Source please.
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rien, I highly recommend that you begin researching this topic to ensure that you can present facts to your friends. Start with the actual subject: Planned Parenthood. Their fiscal reports will tell you how much profit they make on abortion services and how many adoption referrals they [fail] to do a year.

It appears that you are deeply affected by the self-justifying comments of your friends, to the point of ignoring Planned Parenthood’s own statements, and Margaret Sanger’s many writings on this subject.

Never put hearsay and gossip closer to your heart than the facts.
 
rien said:
So my firends say Sanger opposed abortion and that is why they support PP. But you say she opposed it only on the safety of the mother. But isn’t that the stance of the Caholic church? f the mother has uterine cancer and and is pregnant and a removal of the cancer will only save her but will kill the fetus - is that licit or not by church teaching?
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Acctually I do not believe that Margaret sanger opposed abortion at all … don’t know why you think I did …

Someone else said she wanted it to be safe … my guess is that if she truly wanted it to be safe and legal [and had any concern] it was because deaths [safe … :confused: ] make for bad press and questions [not out of real concern for mothers - and of course the abortion kills the child so there is zero concern there] … which would be bad for the eugenics cause …

and it is easier to charge for abortions if the patient lives …

I give Margaret Sanger no marks for any thing other than the eugenics promoter, social elitist racist person she was …
 
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