I think Mohammad was a holy man. I also think that his present day followers reading their holy book the Koran are interpreting it wrong. I think Mohammad would be ashamed by what is being done in his name in our present day.
So why are so many Muslims killing other Muslims and non-Muslims today?
I don’t about so many Muslims killing. There are a minority few who do but use Quranic verses to justify it.
That’s what I said.
Oh dear. I’m completely astounded about Mosques in the USA. I would assume these Mosques are being monitored?
When Allah says “We created this” or something to that effect, He’s simply using the royal plural. In some verses He uses the royal plural [We] and in some cases he uses a singular pronoun [ie ‘serve me only’ or other things to that effect]. Initially it seems that the Qur’an uses these two styles at random, but if you look closely as you read the the Qur’an, you’ll find that Allah uses ‘We’ when it’s a statement of how Powerful/Glorious/Holy He is, but he uses a singular pronoun when He’s stressing His oneness (The belief of God’s absolute oneness, or ‘tawhid’, is absolutely central to the religion of Islam).Who is “We”? I was under the impression that the Quran was written by Mohammed when angel Gabriel visited him in the cave. I always get confused when the word “We” shows up.
No problem-- that’s a good question. The books of Hadith are our oral traditions which were compiled after Muhammad’s death. A man by the name of Imam Bukhari [may Allah be pleased with him] was the first to collect these narrations and compile them into a multiple volume work. So for example, Imam Bukhari would come up to one of Muhammad’s companions and he/she would say what they saw/heard the Prophet do. When you read a book of hadith, the format goes something like thisWhat does it mean by** reported** to have said? I hope I don’t sound like a interrogator
Well, it’s not really 700 years exactly. Jesus’ supposed death was in the fourth decade of the first century, right? Muhammad [peace be upon him] was born in the year 570 C.E. and started his ministry in 610 C.E.
Is a person a language? they’re two different things, MJ. When the Qur’an says Muhammad [peace be upon him] is a prophet for all people from now until the last day, it means all people. Not trying to be rude, it’s just that that was a rather strange understanding of what was said.
Again, it wasn’t 700 years, but anyways…
No offence, but why would you think I would have any clue how to answer that question? If there was a huge fight between protestants and catholics on the streets of Toronto and some people died, would it make sense for me to ask a catholic who lives in Japan “Why did catholics do this?”. Of course not.
How accurate is another story, religious freedom becomes an issue. Proceeds from an analytical perspective which is developing a strategy that identifies. In the wake of Britain, Boston and the US woman in Syria there’s no shortage of illusion. Certainly all people of peace agree a solution must be sought.
Still makes no sense to me. God is one. Like when Jesus said "Before Abraham was I Am (one). I and Father are one etc.
Ok. However I’ve heard Hadiths are important. Are you an only Qur’an Muslim?
What do you mean Christianity of today? Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever - Hebrews 13:8 Christianity is about a person…,The Word (from the beginning of time) made Flesh.And yeah, I’m well aware that Islam is not compatible with the Christianity of today.
Persons speak languages. There has to be communication. In any case why do Muslims insist the Qur’an must be read in Arabic?
It’s important to first understand there isn’t one Islam and that all muslims don’t follow the same ideology. Within all these different versions of Islam there is one ideology that is extremely violent, members of this small group are commonly known as Salafis or in some circles they’re referred to as Wahabi’s and the most extreme of them are called Nawasib
I used to believe as you but I left for the reason you just stated.When Allah says “We created this” or something to that effect, He’s simply using the royal plural. In some verses He uses the royal plural [We] and in some cases he uses a singular pronoun [ie ‘serve me only’ or other things to that effect]. Initially it seems that the Qur’an uses these two styles at random, but if you look closely as you read the the Qur’an, you’ll find that Allah uses ‘We’ when it’s a statement of how Powerful/Glorious/Holy He is, but he uses a singular pronoun when He’s stressing His oneness (The belief of God’s absolute oneness, or ‘tawhid’, is absolutely central to the religion of Islam).
No problem-- that’s a good question. The books of Hadith are our oral traditions which were compiled after Muhammad’s death. A man by the name of Imam Bukhari [may Allah be pleased with him] was the first to collect these narrations and compile them into a multiple volume work. So for example, Imam Bukhari would come up to one of Muhammad’s companions and he/she would say what they saw/heard the Prophet do. When you read a book of hadith, the format goes something like this
“It is narrated on the authority of Aisha that she heard Allah’s Apostle say ‘Do not come to Allah’s house with intense anger or bitterness’”. Muslims don’t believe that that books of Hadith are infallible though, because it was compiled by men-- not by God. There are infallible ideas in there, but there are also some that are inaccurate or contradictory.
Well, it’s not really 700 years exactly. Jesus’ supposed death was in the fourth decade of the first century, right? Muhammad [peace be upon him] was born in the year 570 C.E. and started his ministry in 610 C.E.
And yeah, I’m well aware that Islam is not compatible with the Christianity of today.
Is a person a language? they’re two different things, MJ. When the Qur’an says Muhammad [peace be upon him] is a prophet for all people from now until the last day, it means all people. Not trying to be rude, it’s just that that was a rather strange understanding of what was said.
True, the Qur’an is only the Qur’an in arabic, but you don’t have to know arabic to understand the Qur’an’s message on a basic level-- we have translations in all kinds of different languages. I only speak/read english and even though I would be able to the understand the Qur’an better in its original language [arabic], the english translations I have are good enough for now.
Again, it wasn’t 700 years, but anyways…
I understand that the Catholic Church believes that and this is where you and I diverge. I believe he was a prophet meant strictly for Bani Israel (the Children of Israel).
Being a warlord doesn’t necessarily drop a claimant to prophethood from the roles, so to speak. There is an itch among critics of Islam to immediately dismiss Muhammad for his violence, which, in my opinion is a poor calculus to disapprove of the ‘Prophet’. The fact is, many other historical figures are very well liked for military prowess, e.g., Julius Cesar, Mark Antony, George Patton, Isoroku Yamamoto, &c. But, we are often willing to overlook violence and injury or at least make light of our own or other respected ‘warlords’ and risk our integrity in the process.
Funny it says he’s a mercy to all mankind, because it also says anyone who won’t accept him as God’s apostle should be killed, or at best taxed and subdued. Not much of a mercy there.
Apparently Angel Gabriel:shrug:
All I was doing was offering a link for discussion only. You bet I don’t know that much of the Qur’an. Hope you find your answer
