Was Moses prophesied?

[chypmonk]

I was in a discussion with an atheist today and he asked why don’t I follow Mohamed or Joseph Smith? I said because they were not prophesied.

Which is a really big difference and a good answer… Fulton Sheen used that argument and I liked it.

But the atheist asked was Moses prophesied? I didn’t know. Does anyone know? I looked but it is a tough search because the key words are usually associated with Moses prophesying the coming of Jesus.

I would also like to know was the Egyptian captivity prophesied too? And their subsequent “savior” ie Moses coming to Egypt to free them?
I am just curious

 

[spockrates]

I was in a discussion with an atheist today and he asked why don’t I follow Mohamed or Joseph Smith? I said because they were not prophesied.

Which is a really big difference and a good answer… Fulton Sheen used that argument and I liked it.

But the atheist asked was Moses prophesied? I didn’t know. Does anyone know? I looked but it is a tough search because the key words are usually associated with Moses prophesying the coming of Jesus.

I would also like to know was the Egyptian captivity prophesied too? And their subsequent “savior” ie Moses coming to Egypt to free them?
I am just curious

Hi, Chypmonk. It might help to tell the atheist that you believe in Jesus because He was predicted by Moses (and others, like Isaiah), but you believe Moses because he predicted Jesus. Both reasons are good reasons to believe. After all, who would know the future with 100% accuracy 100% of the time but God? One proof God spoke through the prophets is that they predicted what only God could possibly know.

Moses is the one who says predicting the future is God’s way of proving He is speaking through an Old Testament prophet:

21 “You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.”

(Deuteronomy 18)

If what a prophet predicts does not come true, God did not speak through him. The inference is that if what a prophet predicts does come true, then God did speak through him. Moses’ predictions are good evidence God spoke through him, just as predictions about the life, death and resurrection of Christ are good evidence that He was sent by God.

 

[chypmonk]

Hi, Chypmonk. It might help to tell the atheist that you believe in Jesus because He was predicted by Moses (and others, like Isaiah), but you believe Moses because he predicted Jesus. Both reasons are good reasons to believe. After all, who would know the future with 100% accuracy 100% of the time but God? One proof God spoke through the prophets is that they predicted what only God could possibly know.

Moses is the one who says predicting the future is God’s way of proving He is speaking through an Old Testament prophet:

21 “You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?” 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.”

(Deuteronomy 18)

If what a prophet predicts does not come true, God did not speak through him. The inference is that if what a prophet predicts does come true, then God did speak through him. Moses’ predictions are good evidence God spoke through him, just as predictions about the life, death and resurrection of Christ are good evidence that He was sent by God.

Thanks anyway I think I found what I was looking for!
Did God tell Abraham that over the course of 400 years his descendants would be sojourners and later enslaved in a foreign land and then liberated to “come out with great possessions”?

Genesis 15:13-14
Then He said to Abram: "Know certainly that your descendants will be strangers in a land that is not theirs, and will serve them, and they will afflict them four hundred years. And also the nation whom they serve I will judge; afterward they shall come out with great possessions."

This amazing prophecy undoubtedly triggered many big questions in the mind of Abram (whose name was later changed to Abraham). Why and how will they get enslaved? How will God deliver them? How will they be able to come out of slavery with great possessions? The prophecy was fulfilled by Abraham’s descendants migrating to Egypt, later becoming enslaved there, and eventually being delivered by God under the leadership of Moses. The liberation of the Israelites is described in Exodus 1 through 12 (see especially Exodus 3:20-22).

freebiblestudyguides.org/bible-teachings/prophecy-amazing-examples-prophecies-fulfilled.htm

 

[MPat]

I was in a discussion with an atheist today and he asked why don’t I follow Mohamed or Joseph Smith? I said because they were not prophesied.

Which is a really big difference and a good answer… Fulton Sheen used that argument and I liked it.

But the atheist asked was Moses prophesied? I didn’t know. Does anyone know? I looked but it is a tough search because the key words are usually associated with Moses prophesying the coming of Jesus.

I would also like to know was the Egyptian captivity prophesied too? And their subsequent “savior” ie Moses coming to Egypt to free them?
I am just curious

By the way, mostly the same argument is found in debate dated 1165 - fordham.edu/halsall/source/christ-muslim-debate.asp (look for “O Prince if someone comes now to you and pretends to be a messenger of the King”). In short, someone who is a representative of someone, like an ambassador, generally has some sort of credentials (there is a reason why “presenting credentials” is a common ceremony for diplomats); Mohammed claimed to be a representative of God, but what are his “credentials”?

Maybe you will find some use for this version too…?

 

[chypmonk]

By the way, mostly the same argument is found in debate dated 1165 - fordham.edu/halsall/source/christ-muslim-debate.asp (look for “O Prince if someone comes now to you and pretends to be a messenger of the King”). In short, someone who is a representative of someone, like an ambassador, generally has some sort of credentials (there is a reason why “presenting credentials” is a common ceremony for diplomats); Mohammed claimed to be a representative of God, but what are his “credentials”?

Maybe you will find some use for this version too…?

Thanks I’ll take a look Always willing to learn something