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CHRISTINE77 said:
👍 The Jews weren’t exactly hospitable to other people who weren’t Jewish for heaven’s sake.

I think the Levite story and Sodom and Gomorrah are about the atrocities of rape and wrong use of sex. And yes Sodom and Gomorrah were very corrupt cities, sort of like how corrupt Rome was before it’s fall. God doesn’t like all that nastiness.
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They were also God’s chosen people. They can do what they wish just so long as it wasn’t against each other. Sodom and Gomorrah as well as the Levite story are about hospitality because both cases show how being inhospitable will bring about some kind of misfortune. Now we have to think as to why and see the context of the time. The villages were really small. Like probably no more then 50 per each village. Sodom and Gomorrah maybe 100 tops. So if all the males, young and old, came out for the two genderless angels with supernatural powers were the size of the village then 90 ish people pounding on the door is quite intimidating. Since the villages were small and spread out travelers would be very welcomed because of bringing news from different places as well as the chance they are merchants to bring wares. That is why, imo, it is a story about inhospitality. Being rude to travelers means they won’t come back and no one coming back means no source of news or merchants.
 
NM505StKate said:
They were also God’s chosen people. They can do what they wish just so long as it wasn’t against each other. Sodom and Gomorrah as well as the Levite story are about hospitality because both cases show how being inhospitable will bring about some kind of misfortune. Now we have to think as to why and see the context of the time. The villages were really small. Like probably no more then 50 per each village. Sodom and Gomorrah maybe 100 tops. So if all the males, young and old, came out for the two genderless angels with supernatural powers were the size of the village then 90 ish people pounding on the door is quite intimidating. Since the villages were small and spread out travelers would be very welcomed because of bringing news from different places as well as the chance they are merchants to bring wares. That is why, imo, it is a story about inhospitality. Being rude to travelers means they won’t come back and no one coming back means no source of news or merchants.
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It certainly isn’t hospitable to have sex against one’s will with a homosexual or to rape a woman I will grant you that. So what is your point exactly?
 
I really need Catholic Answers here. I tried to look up one of the apologists talk on it but could not find it. Does anyone know if any one of them discussed this story in the bible?
 
NM505StKate said:
They were also God’s chosen people. They can do what they wish just so long as it wasn’t against each other. Sodom and Gomorrah as well as the Levite story are about hospitality because both cases show how being inhospitable will bring about some kind of misfortune. Now we have to think as to why and see the context of the time. The villages were really small. Like probably no more then 50 per each village. Sodom and Gomorrah maybe 100 tops. So if all the males, young and old, came out for the two genderless angels with supernatural powers were the size of the village then 90 ish people pounding on the door is quite intimidating. Since the villages were small and spread out travelers would be very welcomed because of bringing news from different places as well as the chance they are merchants to bring wares. That is why, imo, it is a story about inhospitality. Being rude to travelers means they won’t come back and no one coming back means no source of news or merchants.
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Although Sodom is described in the bible as a city, and the population of a Bronze Age Near East city would be more like 10,000 (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_urban_community_sizes#Bronze_Age), so “all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old” would be massive.

But I think you have a point that in any society with long journeys between populated areas, giving a stranger water or a meal or a bed for the night can be life and death, since they have nowhere else they can go. So hospitality isn’t just about being polite, and Sodom could do strangers real harm by turning them away - it could really put a stranger’s life on the line if “I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in”. And that alone would give Sodom a reputation of being truly godless.
 
NM505StKate said:
They were also God’s chosen people. They can do what they wish just so long as it wasn’t against each other. Sodom and Gomorrah as well as the Levite story are about hospitality because both cases show how being inhospitable will bring about some kind of misfortune. Now we have to think as to why and see the context of the time. The villages were really small. Like probably no more then 50 per each village. Sodom and Gomorrah maybe 100 tops. So if all the males, young and old, came out for the two genderless angels with supernatural powers were the size of the village then 90 ish people pounding on the door is quite intimidating. Since the villages were small and spread out travelers would be very welcomed because of bringing news from different places as well as the chance they are merchants to bring wares. That is why, imo, it is a story about inhospitality. Being rude to travelers means they won’t come back and no one coming back means no source of news or merchants.
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Demanding to rape guests is a little more than “being rude” in my opinion!:eek:
 
Church_Militant said:
Maybe it will help if we get some professional (name removed by moderator)ut here…
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Good informational post. I can’t believe how some people are now trying to reinterpret the Bible to pretend that homosexual activity wasn’t and isn’t an abomination in God’s eyes. The story of Sodom and Gomorrah has ALWAYS been interpreted as a tale against a very morally corrupt city that God destroyed because of it’s sexual immorality, NOT it’s inhospitality!!!
 
CHRISTINE77 said:
Good informational post. I can’t believe how some people are now trying to reinterpret the Bible to pretend that homosexual activity wasn’t and isn’t an abomination in God’s eyes. The story of Sodom and Gomorrah has ALWAYS been interpreted as a tale against a very morally corrupt city that God destroyed because of it’s sexual immorality, NOT it’s inhospitality!!!
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Quite right. Being inhospitable might have been one of their crimes, but the NT makes it clear what their sin really was:

" 7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire,[d] serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire." Jude 7 (ESV)

Interestingly enough, Christ says that the day in which he will be revealed will be like the days of Sodom/Gomorrah. Is he saying there will be a rampant amount of sexual immorality in the last days?
 
Achilles6129 said:
Quite right. Being inhospitable might have been one of their crimes, but the NT makes it clear what their sin really was:

" 7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire,[d] serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire." Jude 7 (ESV)

Interestingly enough, Christ says that the day in which he will be revealed will be like the days of Sodom/Gomorrah. Is he saying there will be a rampant amount of sexual immorality in the last days?
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No doubt!
 
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