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Jimmy_B
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Was St. Mary present at the Last Supper?
Was Mary, the mother of God, present at the Last Supper?
Your thoughts?
Was Mary, the mother of God, present at the Last Supper?
Your thoughts?
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Apollos
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No; the Biblical text doesn’t say one way or the other, and the approved visionaries say she was elsewhere.
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Jimmy_B
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Hello Apllos
Who were the visionaries and what did they say? … And, are they Doctors of the Church, or Saints?
Thank you.
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Apollos
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The ones I consulted were Mary of Agreda and Catherine Emmerich:
sacredheart.com/The_Mystical_City_of_God_Book_06_Chapter_03.htm
jesus-passion.com/DP_TO_READER.htm#MEDITATION%20VIII
They are neither canonized nor Doctors.
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rowlands
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Well, someone had to do the cooking… and the washing up afterwards
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swariffin
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Well, the one who did the washing, did so after everybody left to the Gethsemane.
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Izdaari
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The biblical text doesn’t say, and I have little confidence in the visionaries. So… I don’t know. 
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Cat
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Luke 22: 8 and 9 says, "And He sent Peter and John, saying, Go and prepare the Passover for us, that we may eat it. And they said to Him, “Where do You want us to prepare it?”Well, someone had to do the cooking… and the washing up afterwards
So it sounds like this particular Passover was a guy’s meal.
I personally think that Jesus wanted it that way because He established the Eucharist here, and taught the disciples to do it so that they could serve as His priests. His Mother was not called to be a priest, so she did not have to learn how to consecrate the Eucharist.
Also, I think that Jesus was sensitive enough to know how much grief Mary could bear–it would have been awful watching your Son give His own Body and Blood not only on the cross, but also at His Last Supper.
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puzzleannie
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my thoughts are irrelevant
the gospel accounts seem to clearly indicate that only the 12 apostles were present and that Judas left before the end of the meal.
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Jimmy_B
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**Mary was with Her son Jesus, though-out his lifetime, from his birth, to Egypt, to the Temple, to the foot of his Cross and Pentecost. The verses below might suggest that Mary was present at the Last Supper. Is there any evidence that she wasn’t present and why wouldn’t Jesus’ mother have be there? **
Acts 1:13-14
When they entered the city they went to the upper room where they were staying, Peter and John and James and Andrew, Philip and Thomas, Bartholomew and Matthew, James son of Alphaeus, Simon the Zealot, and Judas son of James. All these devoted themselves with one accord to prayer, together with some women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.
Acts 2:1
When the time for Pentecost was fulfilled, they were all in one place together.
Your thoughts?
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LilyM
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Acts is talking about the time of Pentecost - not the Last Supper, but nearly two months later. After His death, resurrection and Ascension.
More importantly, nearly two months after Jesus gave Mary to John for safekeeping from the Cross. And nearly two months AFTER Jesus gave Mary Magdalene the privilege and important task of telling the Apostles that He’d risen.
Stands to reason that AFTER the Ascension Our Lady would go where John went, and the Apostles might accept her and Mary Magdalene as among their number - not before, though.
Not at the Last Supper particularly, given that it was the first Eucharist and the occasion on which the Apostles were given their priestly commission, one not given either to Mary or Mary Magdalene. Note that neither is recorded as being present at the Ascension either - since the angel made clear it was a men-only event by addressing them as ‘MEN of Galilee’
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Jimmy_B
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Hello LilyM,
Good points…I understand that, I think you may have misunderstood my last post here…my fault. I asked the question here, because the Bible does not mention whether or not, Mary was present during the Last Supper and I haven’t found any opinion(s) on this question, anywhere. Although, I think another poster, on this thread may have mentioned a Catholic mystic, I’ll have to go back and read that post. I was simply using these verses as an example of Mary accompanying the Apostles elsewhere…I can’t see why she wouldn’t have been there, even if she was only present, as a witness to the event. I’ll give you an example, I’m not a Priest, so I can’t consecrate the host during Mass, however I can be a witness to the miracle and participate in the Mass, in my humble role as a follower and lay Catholic. Can you see my point?
I hope that I am making more sense with this post…
Thank you for your post.
Your thoughts?
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Jimmy_B
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This is the earlier post that I mentioned… regarding the mystics…
Hi Jimmy,
Scripture is silent on the possibility, which means there is no way to know for sure, either way. I’d say on can believe what one wishes.
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Zooey
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swariffin
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I think that based on Jewish culture, a woman (though a mother of Jesus whom still known as human at that time) should not join an all-men gathering event. Let alone, the last supper is not the dinner for the feast of the unleavened bread. It was one full day prior to such feast. So, there is no “compulsion” that someone must celebrate the feast with his/her own family in commemoration of Jewish exodus from Egypt.
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roveau
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The New Testament tells us who was present at the Last Supper and that did not include the Blessed Virgin Mary. Church Tradition doesn’t support her presence either.
The great works of art depicting the Last Supper *commissioned by the Church *do not depict Mary present. If the Church thought that St Mary was present they would have told the artist to include her.
The great works of art depicting the Last Supper *commissioned by the Church *do not depict Mary present. If the Church thought that St Mary was present they would have told the artist to include her.
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bearcat101
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No.
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Jimmy_B
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Many good points made here, thank you!
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Hesychios
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Hi Jon,
As hard as it is to refrain I sincerely think that the proper response is to have no belief on things we cannot know. We have to be accustomed to saying “I don’t know” when it is appropriate, and resist the tendency to favor some outcome to satisfy our imaginations.
I agree in substance with the facts, but not the conclusion. I agree “there is no way to know for sure” but I don’t believe one should believe what one wishes, a tendency I see all too often in this environment.
As hard as it is to refrain I sincerely think that the proper response is to have no belief on things we cannot know. We have to be accustomed to saying “I don’t know” when it is appropriate, and resist the tendency to favor some outcome to satisfy our imaginations.
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