Was St. Peter Burned Alive?

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Just sharing something I’ve read.

A scholar named Timothy D. Barnes (author of Early Christian Hagiography and Roman History, 2010) has a rather interesting theory about how St. Peter was martyred. He argues that Peter was not so much crucified (as is commonly thought) but burned alive under Nero.

His primary evidence for this idea is John 21:18-19. Barnes points to a phrase in the statement: “another shall gird you.” We know from ancient sources (the gospels included) that one of the constant elements in a Roman crucifixion is that crucifixion victims were crucified naked. So Barnes argues, this reference to Peter being ‘girded’ (or ‘clothed’; it’s the same Greek word) is kind of weird if Peter suffered a ‘proper’ crucifixion. You would not be dressed for a crucifixion; you would be undressed.

Instead, Barnes thinks that Peter was one of those Christians who were set on fire by Nero as part of his spectacles. Some of the Christians put to death by Nero were apparently made to wear inflammable tunics (Seneca once refers to “the terrible shirt smeared and interwoven with inflammable materials,” which might be this) and then set alight as torches with their arms extended as if on crosses (Barnes thinks that this was a parody of the Christian belief in Jesus crucified). While mock ‘crosses’ may have been involved, this was not technically a modified form of crucifixion properly speaking, but a modified form of death by burning.

et pereuntibus addits ludibria, ut ferarum tergis contecti laniatu canum interirent aut crucibus adfixi [aut flammandi atque] ubi defecisset dies in usum nocturni luminis urerentur.

And, as they perished, mockeries were added, so that, covered in the hides of wild beasts, they expired from mutilation by dogs, or were burned fixed to crosses for use as nocturnal illumination on the dwindling of daylight.

Barnes is of the idea that Peter, along with some other Roman Christians, were arrested by authorities in the aftermath of the AD 64 fire. They were dressed in flammable tunics, bound with arms outstretched to mock crosses, and then set on fire. Peter’s charred remains would have been thrown into the Tiber. (It’s not unlikely that Christians might have recovered some of these remains or tried to, but Barnes thinks that the bones recovered in the Vatican in the 1950s isn’t actually Peter’s, but that of some later pope.)



Was Peter in Rome?

Another theory espoused by Barnes is his defense of the traditional belief that Peter came to Rome. Some scholars nowadays question whether Peter came to Rome at all, claiming that the tradition that he did so only became attested by the late 2nd century.

Barnes in his more recent article (“Another Shall Gird Thee”: Probative Evidence for the Death of Peter defends the traditional belief by pointing to earlier Christian literature which seems to connect Peter and his death with Nero, such as the Ascension of Isaiah, Apocalypse of Peter, or more indirectly, Clement’s Epistle to the Corinthians. And since Nero’s persecution wasn’t an empire-wide one but really only limited to Rome, that to him points to Peter being in Rome and dying there.

In addition, in his book he invokes 1 Peter and its reference to “the chosen church in Babylon” and the veneration of Peter by Roman Christians as a martyr since the mid-2nd century.

(As for St. Paul, Barnes in his 2010 book thought that Paul was sentenced to death by a Roman governor in Spain, although in the 2015 article he revised his position: Paul died in Rome, which might mean that he was sent there either to be executed or to have his case reviewed by the emperor.)
 
Very interesting, and thanks for sharing.

Either way, what we have is the legends and traditions that have been passed down. How did he really die, and where? We simply don’t know.
 
Very interesting, and thanks for sharing.

Either way, what we have is the legends and traditions that have been passed down. How did he really die, and where? We simply don’t know.
I think the tradition that Peter was in Rome and died there is strong, at least when you compare it to modern theories about him dying in places like Jerusalem or something. Whether the idea that he was really crucified head downwards (which admittedly was quite popular that many authors repeated it) or died in some other way is another issue.
 
Very interesting, and thanks for sharing.

Either way, what we have is the legends and traditions that have been passed down. How did he really die, and where? We simply don’t know.
What we have is the Sacred Tradition of the Catholic Church, promised by Jesus to be protected by the Holy Spirit. I will trust that before I will any “fly by night” opinion of someone who has his “own” “ideas”. Thanks for nothing. God Bless, Memaw
 
What we have is the Sacred Tradition of the Catholic Church, promised by Jesus to be protected by the Holy Spirit. I will trust that before I will any “fly by night” opinion of someone who has his “own” “ideas”. Thanks for nothing. God Bless, Memaw
Sacred Tradition refers to the Apostolic Preaching – that is, doctrinal teaching – of the apostles and their successors. Has the Church made a doctrinal statement regarding the method by which Peter was martyred? If not, then we can’t appeal to ‘Sacred Tradition’ here… 🤷
 
What we have is the Sacred Tradition of the Catholic Church, promised by Jesus to be protected by the Holy Spirit. I will trust that before I will any “fly by night” opinion of someone who has his “own” “ideas”. Thanks for nothing. God Bless, Memaw
The way St. Peter died is not part of divine revelation. It is pious tradition, not Sacred Tradition.

The “Thanks for nothing” comment is very unlike you Memaw. I hope you are just having a bad day.

-Tim-
 
Sacred Tradition refers to the Apostolic Preaching – that is, doctrinal teaching – of the apostles and their successors. Has the Church made a doctrinal statement regarding the method by which Peter was martyred? If not, then we can’t appeal to ‘Sacred Tradition’ here… 🤷
The way St. Peter died is not part of divine revelation. It is pious tradition, not Sacred Tradition.
This.

The thing about small-t, pious/popular ‘traditions’ is that they’re not singular (rival ‘traditions’ might exist) or even unchanging (a single pious belief might evolve over time). That’s the difference between it and Sacred Tradition, I think. We should make a distinction between the two.

Take for example the idea of St. Andrew being crucified. We often nowadays imagine that St. Andrew was crucified on an X-shaped cross, but this idea only came into being in the Middle Ages. In the older stories and artworks, Andrew was depicted crucified on a regular, t/T-shaped cross.

Or the story of Veronica or her image. ‘Berenice’ or ‘Pheronike’ or ‘Veronica’ was a name traditionally assigned to the woman who was cured of her hemorrhage when she touched Jesus’ garment. Somewhere along the way, a supposed portrait of Jesus from life became associated with this woman. (What’s confusing is that this purported icon of Jesus was also referred as the vera icona or veronica.) This portrait was at first thought to be a sort of painting - a miraculous one, yes, but still man-made - but was later claimed to be a image ‘not made by human hands’ imprinted on Veronica’s veil. At first, stories have the portrait being made somewhere during Jesus’ ministry (i.e. before the Passion), but by the Middle Ages Veronica’s image became inextricably linked with Good Friday.

You might even count those Nativity scenes which show the manger being in a cave vs. a Western-style wooden barn here, or those paintings which show Jesus crucified with four nails vs. those which show only three nails.
 
The way St. Peter died is not part of divine revelation. It is pious tradition, not Sacred Tradition.

The “Thanks for nothing” comment is very unlike you Memaw. I hope you are just having a bad day.

-Tim-
Nowhere, that I have ever heard or read has the Church ever said that Peter died by burning alive. It has always taught that Peter died by being crucified. I just get a little tired of those who try to throw their “opinion” out there and we are supposed to swallow it. As far as Sacred Tradition, I was referring to Jesus’ promise that the Church would NOT teach error and the Holy Spirit would protect her from error. And that IS covered by Sacred Tradition. and the Teaching Magisterium is covered by that promise. I wonder why some seem to be picking to pieces what the Church teaches to suit their own “opinion”. Many years ago my uncle, a priest, when I first started teaching CCD, told me, “Never teach the children “your opinion”, you could very well be wrong. Teach only what the Church teaches, as you are responsible for the souls of those children”. Good advice and I never forgot it. God Bless, Memaw
 
I’d just point out the passages which Barnes thinks hint to a belief in Peter being killed by Nero. (Actually, this idea was not in itself original to Barnes: another scholar, Richard Bauckham, had arrived to a similar conclusion after reviewing early Christian sources - that Peter died under Nero, and that the early Christians generally connected Peter’s martyrdom with the endtimes.)

Now, therefore, Hezekiah and Josab my son, these are the days of the completion of the world. And after it is completed, Beliar will descend, the great ruler, the king of this world, which he has ruled ever since it existed. He will descend from this firmament in the form of a man, a lawless emperor, a matricide - this is the king of this world - and he will persecute the plant which the Twelve Apostles of the Beloved will have planted, and one of the Twelve will be delivered into his hands. This ruler will come in the form of that emperor, and with him will come all the powers of this world, and they will obey him in all that he desires. (Ascension of Isaiah 4.1-4)

The Ascension of Isaiah as we have it now is a composite text. Most of the text seem to have been already in existence by the mid-2nd century; these were brought together around the late 2nd-early 3rd century. An independent section within the work, 3.13-4.22 (known as the Testament of Hezekiah), a kind of Christian apocalypse, seems to have been composed during the late 1st century, which makes it one of the oldest parts of the work. The passage quoted above comes from this section.

The reference to Nero is clear in this text: no emperor other than Nero killed his mother, still less was any other emperor (in)famous precisely for killing his mother. The text also hints to the popular idea of Nero redivivus, the belief that Nero did not really die or would come back to life and reappear to defeat his enemies or (for Christians) to usher the end of the world.

The second text is the Greek Apocalypse of Peter (not to be confused with a gnostic work of the same title in Coptic). In the text, Jesus tells Peter:

“Behold, I have revealed to you, Peter, and set forth everything. And go to a city which rules over the west and drink the cup which I have promised you at the hands of the son of the one in Hades so that his disappearance may receive a beginning.” (14.11)

This work dates to around the early 2nd century, likely during the AD 130s. This puts it more than half a century before Tertullian’s remark about Peter’s martyrdom (Scorpiace 15.3). The reference is quite obvious: “the city which rules the West” = Rome; “drink the cup which I have promised you” = suffer martyrdom.

The identification of Nero as the son of the Devil links him with the Antichrist. The idiom “the son of the one in Hades” is rather interesting. Richard Bauckham points out that the idea of depicting Satan as the ruler of the dead or being in Hades, the place of the dead, cannot be found in Christian texts before the 4th century; either the phrase is an inaccurate rendition of a Semitic idiom, “son of the destruction” or “son of perdition” (cf. 2 Thessalonians 2:3), or our text is the earliest instance of the motif of ‘Satan in Hades’.

Interestingly, Peter’s death in this text is linked with Nero’s ‘disappearance’: either his destruction or his (as per the Nero redivivus myth) temporary disappearance.
 
If Peter had been one of the many who were burned as well as crucified, we would have heard about it. There were plenty of legends of early Christian martyrs who were burned alive, like St. Polycarp. (And then there’s St. Lawrence, who was grilled alive.) Early Christians took this horrible fate pretty stoically, comparing themselves to eucharistic bread being baked. There would have been no shame in such a death for Peter, and no reason to conceal it.

What’s likely is that, even had Nero wished to burn him alive, Peter would probably have died from suffocation before they could have gotten around to the torchlighting. He was an old man.

On the other hand, if Peter was indeed crucified upside down by his own request, and since he was a Christian leader, it would be likely that he would be left hanging there as a good enough show all by himself. What’s more, Nero would have wanted his face to be seen and his death to be undeniable, precisely because Peter was a Christian leader. There is a strong tradition that he was crucified front and center, “between the two turning points” on the “spine” of Nero’s chariot racetrack (the Circus of Nero) that was the showplace of his gardens. The obelisk in Vatican Square marked the center of Nero’s Circus; it has been standing there since Nero’s time. Probably that is exactly where Peter was crucified.

Turning people into torches was for the anonymous people, not for the special prizes. It has been recently pointed out that this actually gave Nero the cover of Roman law, as arsonists were one of the serious criminal classes that were burned alive. But Tacitus is pretty clear on how Nero using these “criminals” as garden lights exposed his sick sense of humor, and disgusted even the hardened Roman populace. Lots of people thought the Christians should be killed, but very few thought they were responsible for the Great Fire.

Of course, the really interesting bit is that, despite Roman law saying that crucified criminal bodies (particularly of traitors or people who hurt public order) usually had to be left to rot (and that burial was only permitted as a special favor), somebody managed to get Peter’s body down from the cross and buried in a grave nearby on the Vatican Hill, in an obscure part of a necropolis area used by both rich and poor pagans. It’s clear that both Jews and Christians did often try to abscond with the bodies of their people killed by Roman authorities, if not given permission, and sometimes succeeded. (Sometimes they were caught and executed. It wasn’t a game.) People put thought into this stuff.
 
If Peter had been one of the many who were burned as well as crucified, we would have heard about it. There were plenty of legends of early Christian martyrs who were burned alive, like St. Polycarp. (And then there’s St. Lawrence, who was grilled alive.) Early Christians took this horrible fate pretty stoically, comparing themselves to eucharistic bread being baked. There would have been no shame in such a death for Peter, and no reason to conceal it.
Essentially, what Barnes argues is that we do have evidence for this idea of Peter undergoing a mock crucifixion and torched in the form of John 21: being “clothed” and then “stretching out his hands.”

Another part of Barnes’ thesis is that, crucifixion was not a standard form of execution for early Christians during the first two centuries, contrary to what we might think.

The only time we have reliable or contemporary evidence for Christians being crucified for being Christian, he says, was during the ‘Great Persecution’ under Diocletian. (He doesn’t count the apocryphal Acts of various apostles - say the Acts of Peter or the Acts of Andrew - as preserving historically reliable information.) That was a time when even freeborn Christians could be crucified.

The only historically firm instance of a Christian being crucified before the late 3rd century (in Barnes’ view) was when Simeon cousin of Jesus and second bishop of Jerusalem was crucified in the early 2nd century. And even then, he was not so much crucified for being Christian itself (that was just a secondary accusation) as for being suspected as the potential leader or figurehead of an anti-Roman Jewish rebellion, because he was “descended from David” (which does fit in with other crucifixions in the 1st-2nd century in Palestine, which were all for political disturbance).
 
Essentially, what Barnes argues is that we do have evidence for this idea of Peter undergoing a mock crucifixion and torched in the form of John 21: being “clothed” and then “stretching out his hands.”

Another part of Barnes’ thesis is that, crucifixion was not a standard form of execution for early Christians during the first two centuries, contrary to what we might think.

The only time we have reliable or contemporary evidence for Christians being crucified for being Christian, he says, was during the ‘Great Persecution’ under Diocletian. (He doesn’t count the apocryphal Acts of various apostles - say the Acts of Peter or the Acts of Andrew - as preserving historically reliable information.) That was a time when even freeborn Christians could be crucified.

The only historically firm instance of a Christian being crucified before the late 3rd century (in Barnes’ view) was when Simeon cousin of Jesus and second bishop of Jerusalem was crucified in the early 2nd century. And even then, he was not so much crucified for being Christian itself (that was just a secondary accusation) as for being suspected as the potential leader or figurehead of an anti-Roman Jewish rebellion, because he was “descended from David” (which does fit in with other crucifixions in the 1st-2nd century in Palestine, which were all for political disturbance).
Yes, this is JUST in Barnes “view” God Bless, Memaw
 
My own take on this.

On the one hand, I really find Barnes’ idea intriguing and interesting. And I’d credit him for actually taking the ancient sources seriously. At least his theory about Peter’s death has more credibility in my opinion than, say, this theory of Michael Goulder’s that Peter never went to Rome but died in his bed in Jerusalem around AD 55. :rolleyes:

That being said, I think Barnes’ claim that Peter’s execution can’t have been a ‘proper’ crucifixion to be rather weak. His argument essentially runs:

Peter is mentioned as being ‘clothed’ or ‘girded’ for his execution, but crucifixion victims were crucified naked. In addition, Barnes reads 1 Clement as inferring that Peter was executed along with some female Christians, although Barnes claims that Roman crucifixion was never inflicted on women.

But not to dwell upon ancient examples, let us come to the most recent spiritual heroes. Let us take the noble examples furnished in our own generation. Through envy and jealousy the greatest and most righteous pillars [of the church] have been persecuted and put to death. Let us set before our eyes the illustrious apostles. Peter, through unrighteous envy, endured not one or two, but numerous labours; and when he had at length suffered martyrdom, departed to the place of glory due to him. Owing to envy, Paul also obtained the reward of patient endurance, after being seven times thrown into captivity, compelled to flee, and stoned. After preaching both in the east and west, he gained the illustrious reputation due to his faith, having taught righteousness to the whole world, and come to the extreme limit of the west, and suffered martyrdom under the prefects. Thus was he removed from the world, and went into the holy place, having proved himself a striking example of patience.

To these men who spent their lives in the practice of holiness, there is to be added a great multitude of the elect, who, having through envy endured many indignities and tortures, furnished us with a most excellent example. Through envy, those women, the Danaids and Dircae, being persecuted, after they had suffered terrible and unspeakable torments, finished the course of their faith with steadfastness, and though weak in body, received a noble reward. Envy has alienated wives from their husbands, and changed that saying of our father Adam, “This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh.” (Genesis 2:23) Envy and strife have overthrown great cities, and rooted up mighty nations.

Barnes (following the lead of another scholar, Edward Champlin) explains the puzzling allusion to “Danaids and Dircae” as follows:
  • “Danaids” is probably a reference to the fifty mythical daughters of King Danaus. Statues of these fifty daughters graced the temple of Apollo on the Palatine Hill (dedicated in 28 BC), which was destroyed during the fire of Rome.
  • “Dircae” is an allusion to Dirce, wife of the king of Thebes, who was tied by her hair to a bull which trampled and gored her to death. One of the buildings that was destroyed in the AD 64 fire was the so-called amphitheater of Statilius Taurus (‘Bull’) on the Campus Martius. (Cassius Dio 62.18.2)
Barnes thus reads Clement’s letter as hinting that Peter, Paul and many Christian women were executed in the aftermath of the AD 64 fire which destroyed many buildings in Rome, including the temple of Apollo and the amphitheater of Taurus.

My take on these two arguments:

(1) I think Barnes’ case for upholding the translation of the Greek se zōsei as “gird you” or “clothe you” (versus some modern translations which render it more restrictively as “fasten a belt around you”) is strong. However, at the same time I can’t see how the idea of Peter being ‘dressed’ with something for his execution contradicts the idea of crucifixion victims being crucified ‘naked’, since the ancient idea of ‘nakedness’ is much more broader than ours. I mean, in the very same passage in John, Peter is described as being ‘naked’, yet he only puts on his outer garment - implying that he was still wearing something (a tunic, perhaps) and was not completely nude.

(2) It’s true that most crucifixion victims on the record are men, and it’s true that as a result of this, a number of scholars think that crucifixion was a kind of men’s punishment: women were never crucified. However, we do have a few scattered references here and there of women being crucified, so it doesn’t seem to me that just because Peter was executed along with female Christians that that means Peter can’t have been crucified. (Of course, that’s assuming that Peter was killed at the same time as these women. Who knows? Maybe Peter’s execution and the women’s happened at different times.)

So, even if we grant that, yeah, Peter’s body was torched, I think that that doesn’t preclude him being crucified properly speaking and then set on fire instead of simply being just tied to some stake in a cruciform pose. 🤷
 
Nowhere, that I have ever heard or read has the Church ever said that Peter died by burning alive. It has always taught that Peter died by being crucified. I just get a little tired of those who try to throw their “opinion” out there and we are supposed to swallow it. As far as Sacred Tradition, I was referring to Jesus’ promise that the Church would NOT teach error and the Holy Spirit would protect her from error. And that IS covered by Sacred Tradition. and the Teaching Magisterium is covered by that promise. I wonder why some seem to be picking to pieces what the Church teaches to suit their own “opinion”. Many years ago my uncle, a priest, when I first started teaching CCD, told me, “Never teach the children “your opinion”, you could very well be wrong. Teach only what the Church teaches, as you are responsible for the souls of those children”. Good advice and I never forgot it. God Bless, Memaw
There is no Church teaching that Peter was crucified. It is tradition with a small “t”.
You are wrong.
 
There is no Church teaching that Peter was crucified. It is tradition with a small “t”.
You are wrong.
OH really, I was taught that all my life and it is thru the teaching authority of the Church. Never, ever heard of him being “burned alive” till this came up. God Bless, Memaw
 
OH really, I was taught that all my life and it is thru the teaching authority of the Church. Never, ever heard of him being “burned alive” till this came up. God Bless, Memaw
The only mention we have of the death of Peter is in the Apochyrphal Acts of Peter. It is pious tradition that Peter was crucified upside down.
 
OH really, I was taught that all my life and it is thru the teaching authority of the Church. Never, ever heard of him being “burned alive” till this came up. God Bless, Memaw
Let me repeat what we are telling you. The Church does NOT teach that Peter was crucified nor burned alive. The former is pious tradition, NOT Sacred Tradition. Catholics are free to believe what they want on this matter.
What you say you were “taught” was NOT through the teaching authority of the Church.
Let’s put this to bed now.
 
Considering we have the bones/relics of St Peter and no one has noted scorched marks, I would say the burn theory is incorrect (plus Memaw has never steered me wrong!).
 
Considering we have the bones/relics of St Peter and no one has noted scorched marks, I would say the burn theory is incorrect (plus Memaw has never steered me wrong!).
Thank you WT1, the Church has never steered me wrong either. And the teaching Magisterium of the Church has always taught that Peter was Crucified. The teaching Magisterium is Infallible!! God Bless, Memaw
 
Were you ever “taught” that Peter was burned??? I never heard of it before this thread. and I taught CCD for over 20 years. If you study up on what Infallibility really means you will see that the Teaching Magisterium of the Catholic Church IS infallible. Christ promised that His Church would never teach error. I trust the Church. God Bless, Memaw
 
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