Was the destruction of our world with a great flood an evil or a good?

[TheOldColonel]

You should take a trip to the Grand Canyon. It’s spectacular!

 

[BoyGenius]

I had taken the Bible TImeline Study by Jeff Cavins, being taught by my friend at our parish here. When it came to the flood, I became scared. What if I had not been born to Noah’s family? Begged another question, why would God punish people who are going to be in Hell? Why punish them before they are in an eternal inferno? That made me so scared.

Continuing the study as God made a promise never to do it again, I wondered did He make that call in error of judgement? Did He not tell or forsee? Theologically, He can see all. No time does He not know what is going to happen. Even Jesus stated someone would turn Him in. The Son of Man must suffer. So, God did know what would happen in the flood. But maybe the reason He stated never to do the flood again was because of His Covenant relation with Noah. Which likely bears closer to the reason He rescinded to punish in the same like manner again.

What happened to those people? Well if He is a Just and Merciful God. Then His punishments must be for Conversion of heart. True sorrow for their sins. And remember, they were going in marriage, and given to marriage. The Marital embrace of the Covenant was fading. And Noah and his family held fast to that Covenant/Household. And, Noah and his family understood the fall, and Salvation. Hence why it is called Salvation History. Noah’s family didn’t forget. But the people outside of his household had let go of God’s Divine Covenant for their Salvation. And so the history of Salvation was lost. In that way, God let out the waters of the earth (i.e. like baptism) to remind people there is sin. And that sin comes through suffering (i.e. the fall from the Garden; pain.) So it was in His merciful justice to get these people back in line, that the earth around them, the one they live on, is held up by Him, His Covenant, His Divine plan of Salvation. Not man’s.

Consider Our Lady who appeared and spoke to the Children in Fatima. She showed them the poor sinners who go to hell because no one prays for them. Even consider the Guardian Angel at Portugal took a sword with flames from the sun. And when Mary’s arm went up, the Angel then announced, “Penance, penance, penance.” As well, Our Lady said if Russia does not Consecrate to Her Immaculate Heart, then the errors of Russia will spread. Thus, it’s just like the time of Noah. A warning. But in this case, we have Our Lady, and Jesus her Son, Our Lord.

God’s will is for us not to forget His love for us. And that we are steeped with sin. That Salvation is necessary and critical. That God loves us. That’s my understanding. When God punishes, the evil of sin is felt to remind us what our state is in. It’s kind of like trying to wake us up enough to turn back to Him. So we don’t lose our eternal Salvation. That’s my understanding.

 

[niceatheist]

And wasn’t caused by the floodm

 

[BoyGenius]

I form the light, and create darkness, I make peace, and create evil:

Evil is the consequence of falling out of Covenant relationship with God. That from the fall, do consequences come. And it cannot be helped, without God (i.e. in relationship), you suffer pain (i.e. evil.) So by consequence of God’s existence, and falling from His Divine Justice, Mercy. Does evil occur. And it is created. Interesting, though, if God says He creates evil. He is not leaving it on us. And, thus, why Jesus bore our sins on the Cross. He bore all suffering of the world on Him. God takes responsibility for our mistakes. Our evils. He is willing to bear the weight of our sins. And He is a loving God who knows that we’re not able to live without Him. That we suffer when we choose to not be in His Covenant. God does say He is responsible for our Salvation. Hence, why He says as a Consequence of the fall related to Him, and the pains/suffering from it, He creates evil. That all definite things are defined by Him. An dependent upon Him. Good and evil are definite characteristics set by God, the foundation upon His relationship with us. Which is love. It cannot be helped, without His love, we suffer pain and evil. And He allows it to happen so we don’t forget He loves us. He wants us, like a Father, to be His son or daughter. He wants us to live in Divine and Holy Communion with Him, the life of the Holy Trinity, with Mary, the ever Blessed Virgin and Mother of God, and with the Saints, Angels, and all Souls.