Was the pope a member of the Nazi Party/Hitler Youth

[Valke2]

This should put your mind to rest. If there were ANY doubt about his behavior during WWII, this famous Nazi - hunter organization would NEVER say something like this:

wiesenthal.com/site/apps/s/content.asp?c=fwLYKnN8LzH&b=253162&ct=716941

And then there is this (from the same webpage):
The Simon Wiesenthal Center praised the visit of Pope Benedict XVI to the site of the Auschwitz-Birkenau death camp.

“This is an historic trip as important as that of his predecessor Pope John Paul II,” said Rabbi Marvin Hier, Founder and Dean of the Wiesenthal Center.”

“The fact that a German Pope raised in Nazi Germany and who once wore the uniform of the Hitler Youth kneels in prayer at the site of the world’s greatest atrocity and condemns hatred is a repudiation of antisemitism and a repudiation of those like Iranian President Ahmadinejad who refer to the Holocaust as a myth,” Hier concluded.

 

[puzzleannie]

I do not know much about the pope.

But is it true that he was a member of the Nazi party or the Hitler youth or something.

If thats the case why would you pick a former member of the Nazi party as a pope…

no it isn’t true, so why bring it up and criticize when you have not even provided a source for the charge?

 

[Deconi]

It is a fair enquiry.

If he was a Nazi, …WOW!

If he was unwilling…Whoopdedo

If he was willing…WOW

If he was none of the above…Whoopdedo!

How God works, is how God works. Mysterious and mindnumbing.

 

[holdencaulfield]

Yes he was, however he never attended meetings and refused to kill anyone in the war and flew helicopters. You have to understand what it was like to live in this time. It was terrible, of course Pope Benedict XVI did not agree with what the people were doing in Germany, but what could you do. The Germans were helpless in their own country. It is very sad for them.

 

[cascherman]

Well, I think to know for sure it would take some unbiased and diligent history study to find out.

But, say he was, Saul killed Christians by the boat-loads before he became Paul. God uses imperfect vessels for his perfect will.

 

[holdencaulfield]

Well, I think to know for sure it would take some unbiased and diligent history study to find out.

But, say he was, Saul killed Christians by the boat-loads before he became Paul. God uses imperfect vessels for his perfect will.

True, but I for one don’t think that the College of Cardinals would have elected him if they thought that he was a bad person.

 

[water]

Some friends of mine had to wear a Communist soldier uniforms and went to Cambodia and Laos to fight. Does this mean my friends are Communists? – No!!! They were forced to go to military. They could’ve been put to jail and their family members could be having problem if they escaped.

 

[holdencaulfield]

Some friends of mine had to wear a Communist soldier uniforms and went to Cambodia and Laos to fight. Does this mean my friends are Communists? – No!!! They were forced to go to military. They could’ve been put to jail and their family members could be having problem if they escaped.

That’s right, if you say he was a bad person then you obviously don’t understand the situation in Nazi Germany, and need to open a text book.

 

[JRKH]

Yes he was, however he never attended meetings and refused to kill anyone in the war and
** flew helicopters**
You have to understand what it was like to live in this time. It was terrible, of course Pope Benedict XVI did not agree with what the people were doing in Germany, but what could you do. The Germans were helpless in their own country. It is very sad for them.

What kind of Helicopters were the Germans Flying in WW 2?

 

[holdencaulfield]

What kind of Helicopters were the Germans Flying in WW 2?

lol you caught me there. Yea, you are right most of this knowledge I gleaned off of Wikipedia the internet’s worst source of knowledge. So I really don’t know but I know he wasn’t a bad person.:irish2:

 

[HollyDolly]

Don’t know much about german helicopters during WW2.
My dad was a vet of WW2,Korea and VietNam.During WW2
he was a airplane mechanic and flight crew chief.Don’t recall him saying anything about helicopters on the German side.He later got invovled in intelligence work,when in Italy he was recuited to spy on Tito’s partisans. I kided him about how come you didn’t spy on the Germans,why did you not want to fink on the family?
And he replied,no,because if caught by the Germans,they’d shoot first then ask questions,in other words you were a dead duck.
He had relatives in the German military. His father’s cousin was Generaloberst Karl Hilpert,commander of Army Group Kurland during the war.Some relatives of his mother were also officers in the military there and a couple I understand on grandma’s side of the family were U-Boat commanders.
the website www.feldgrau.com has a forum and you might try a search of helicopters there.Someone might have info on the subject. Yeah,Wikipedia is not the best source for info on some things. You might also try a Google search too.

 

[Valke2]

What kind of Helicopters were the Germans Flying in WW 2?

He was drafted into the anti-aircraft corp. as a soldier. I didn’t see anything about helicopters in wikipedia.

 

[JRKH]

Don’t know much about german helicopters during WW2.
My dad was a vet of WW2,Korea and VietNam.During WW2
he was a airplane mechanic and flight crew chief.Don’t recall him saying anything about helicopters on the German side.He later got invovled in intelligence work,when in Italy he was recuited to spy on Tito’s partisans. I kided him about how come you didn’t spy on the Germans,why did you not want to fink on the family?
And he replied,no,because if caught by the Germans,they’d shoot first then ask questions,in other words you were a dead duck.
He had relatives in the German military. His father’s cousin was Generaloberst Karl Hilpert,commander of Army Group Kurland during the war.Some relatives of his mother were also officers in the military there and a couple I understand on grandma’s side of the family were U-Boat commanders.
the website www.feldgrau.com has a forum and you might try a search of helicopters there.Someone might have info on the subject. Yeah,Wikipedia is not the best source for info on some things. You might also try a Google search too.

Thanks but truth be told, I was being facetious. There were no helicopters used by any power in WW2 that I know of. The helicopter wasn’t perfected until very late in the war.
Thanks for the link though

James

 

[Christine_Blake]

How do you guys know he was forced…

maybe he was a willing and active member of the Hitler youth and then just tried to lie and make out that he was coerced…

im sure mant nazi’s tried that once they had lost

Well, I guess we make that connection since he escaped and surrendered to US forces, spent time in POW camp, and upon release, chose to go to Seminary rather than return to Germany…

 

[Ignatius]

I do not know much about the pope.

But is it true that he was a member of the Nazi party or the Hitler youth or something.

If thats the case why would you pick a former member of the Nazi party as a pope…

Every Child born in Germany, Austria, Holand and any other Germanic Country was enrolled at birth by law under the Nazi regime. That doesn’t mean they were really nazis, they had no more choice in the matter than those sent to prison camps.

 

[weenerb]

I do not know much about the pope.

But is it true that he was a member of the Nazi party or the Hitler youth or something.

If thats the case why would you pick a former member of the Nazi party as a pope…

Beats me why you would choose a former Nazi to be a pope. But he was a member of the Nazi party.

 

[weenerb]

I read he had to do it or be killed. Anyway the whole Church remained pretty silent about Hitler’s treatment of Jews because it didn’t want Hitler to start persecuting Catholics in retaliation. So I doubt that it matters much that the pope also protected himself since that’s what the Church did for itself.

I lived in South Africa before freedom was resored. I refused to belong to any movement or oranization that put this freedom in jeopardy. I truely risked my life. The pope should have done the same. He is nothing more that a falabile ex nazi who protects sex offenders and hides behind a mask.

 

[kathielee]

Beats me why you would choose a former Nazi to be a pope. But he was a member of the Nazi party.

My great grandfather lived in the United States but wasn’t selling slaves or owning them. NO our Holy Father was NOT a Nazi. There is a difference between living in Bavaria as a teenager and being part of the Nazi’s.

I’m not sure what you are reading that allows you to come to the conclusion that Pope Benedict XVI was a Nazi but whatever your source is is hogwash at best.

Kathie

 

[weenerb]

Just a technicality: not all Nazis were members of the Nazi Party.

Secondly, even if it was true, can people not change? Can they not reform? Can God not transform a person’s life?

I lived in South Africa before freedom was resored. I refused to belong to any movement or oranization that put this freedom in jeopardy. I truely risked my life. The pope should have done the same. He is nothing more that a falabile ex nazi who protects sex offenders and hides behind a mask. He should renouce his nazi past: which he has NEVER done.

 

[weenerb]

Apparently God didn’t want the pope to be killed early on, He wanted him to stick around and be pope as part of His plan.

God is wierd. So he kills 6 million people just to save the ex-Naxi Pope? Great guy…