Was The story of Noah real?

[niceatheist]

It made little impact in science literature. You’re confusing popular science journalism with actual science. As I recall, there were one or two papers of little note published in the 1960s and 1970s, but it was Time magazine, as memory recollects, that made it a big deal.

Here’s a tip. Just because a claim makes the papers doesn’t make it a sound claim. The evidence for CO2 causing climate change had been gathering since at least the 1940s, and certainly it was predicted as far back as the late 19th century that CO2, once its properties were fully understood, could, if it accumulated in the atmosphere in larger quantities, could increase the amount of solar radiation being absorbed.

 

[Gorgias]

it was Time magazine, as memory recollects, that made it a big deal.

Fair enough. It wasn’t a “pretty minor claim”, then. It was a big deal.

 

[Bradskii]

niceatheist:

a pretty minor claim made in the 1970s

I remember the 1970s. Do you? The news that a new Ice Age was upon us wasn’t a “minor claim”. It was pretty well being shouted from the rooftops…

It was poor reporting not backed up by the scientific literature. Fom Wiki with my emphasis.

‘By the 1970s, scientists were becoming increasingly aware that estimates of global temperatures showed cooling since 1945, as well as the possibility of large scale warming due to emissions of greenhouse gases. In the scientific papers which considered climate trends of the 21st century, less than 10% inclined towards future cooling, while most papers predicted future warming.[1] The general public had little awareness of carbon dioxide’s effects on climate, but Science News in May 1959 forecast a 25% increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide in the 150 years from 1850 to 2000, with a consequent warming trend.[3]The actual increase in this period was 29%. Paul R. Ehrlich mentioned climate change from greenhouse gases in 1968.[4] By the time the idea of global cooling reached the public press in the mid-1970s temperatures had stopped falling, and there was concern in the climatological community about carbon dioxide’s warming effects.[[5]](Global cooling - Wikipedia) In response to such reports, the World Meteorological Organization issued a warning in June 1976 that “a very significant warming of global climate” was probable.[6]’

Note the last sentence. From 1976…

 

[niceatheist]

niceatheist:

it was Time magazine, as memory recollects, that made it a big deal.

Fair enough. It wasn’t a “pretty minor claim”, then. It was a big deal.

Well, to the popular press maybe. It certainly was nothing of the kind in scientific circles, where there was already a pretty significant body of data indicating warming was occurring. Let’s not confuse science journalism with science.

 

[Bradskii]

Gorgias:

niceatheist:

it was Time magazine, as memory recollects, that made it a big deal.

Fair enough. It wasn’t a “pretty minor claim”, then. It was a big deal.

Well, to the popular press maybe. It certainly was nothing of the kind in scientific circles, where there was already a pretty significant body of data indicating warming was occurring. Let’s not confuse science journalism with science.

Exactly right. As the post above spells out quite clearly. But which is obviously part of a global cabal of left wing deep state conspirators backed by all experts in the elevant field of expertise, supported by nothing except evidence and determined to…well, to ensure we move to more sustainable energy sources.

Countered by someone on a forum who read a magazine in the seventies.

 

[buffalo]

I found this interesting: 1800 core samples

 

[Dan_Defender]

There isn’t enough water for the story to be literally true.

I do not know that the flood was regional or global and I do not wish to debate this, but consider that this is a scientific true statement about the present. The ratio of atmospheric water to land surface is simply not enough to cover everything now. fair enough. But we do not know that this ratio has always been constant, what if there was more atmospheric water before, what if oceans were lower, what if the Black sea and the Caspian sea were land before? just my two cents.