Was the Tridentine Mass ever celebrated outside of a church or chapel?

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LRThunder said:
Hmmm. I would assume that was during WWII and that he would’ve still been in the German army.
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If it was during WWII, he would be commiting the grave offense of impersonating a priest – The Holy Father was not ordained until 1951.

Wikipedia identifies the image as a *Feldmesse *(filed Mass, I presume?) ca 1951.

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catherine_m said:
In the 18th Century in Ireland the Penal Laws were passed. Under these laws Priests and Bishops were forbidden from saying Mass. As a result people would gather at a “Mass Rock” (a large rock in a field) or at a “safe house” where the Priest would say Mass unknown to the authorities. These would have been occasions when the Tridentine Mass would have been celebrated outside of a Church or Chapel.
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My mother told me of the English police snipers who woud hide out at a distance to take out a Priest saying an open air Mass on a Mass rock. The sniper would line up his aim at one of the candles and hold it there until the priest walked in front of it. Many Priests were murdered this way by the English protestants. There was one particular story of a Priest who realised he was being fired upon with a consecrated Host in his hand. He died crouching over the Host in an attempt to protect It from the bullets.
 
tee_eff_em said:
I have seen a cloth with relics sewn into it, which I was told used for celebrating the Mass in unusual locations. But I may have been misinformed (I’m thinking there is a similar cloth that is part of eastern liturgical accoutrement?)

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It’s called an Antimension, and is usually decorated with an icon of the Deposition. It has relics sewn to it.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/antimension
 
I remember in the 1940’s and 1950’s the Latin mass being celebrated in our home by my dads brother who was a priest convalescing from a heart attack. So the answer is yes.
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puzzleannie said:
there is a photo that has been published many times of Pope John Paul II, when he was a young priest, celebrating Mass on a camping trip with college students, using an upturned canoe as an altar. Certainly Mass was always celebrated for soldiers in field conditions. There are also photos and film clips of Eucharistic Congresses and other such events pre-1960 where Mass was celebrated in public places like arenas, stadiums. What is notable is that in such photos you always see the crowds of people kneeling at the proper times, no matter what the conditions.
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You mean without kneelers:eek: :bigyikes: :eek: :bigyikes:

The horror of it all. Just think, the reason so many give for not kneeling really isn’t applicable at all.
The horror
 
Just think. The first Mass was held in an attic. Most Masses presided over by the apostles were in private homes since it was a version of the Seder meal. No one knows how many Masses were said in the dark of the catacombs. This includes all the Masses said in the school basement of the parish where I grew up. The pastor built the school first and put off building a church.
The Mass may be said anywhere the faithful gather.

Matthew
 
When I went on the Pilgrimage from Paris to Chartres (Traditional),
the Mass was said exclusively (until we reached Chratres Cathedral) outside. The Traditional Altar was erected with all the accutraments, and then a canopy was placed over the sanctuary, but everything else was petty muchout in the open. It was beautiful. Traditionalists:thumbsup: are accustomed to this traditional feature.
 
Was the Tridentine Mass ever celebrated outside of a church or chapel
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Not sure about was, but still is yes.
Cemetary, mortuary, hotel room, etc.

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Interesting. Judging by the posture of the priest, it’s either before the Mass has begun, or the Mass has already finished and he’s putting everything away. This is in combination with it’s a time of war, and they’re outside.
 
One of the priests who used to offer the TLM at our church, an elderly and holy Italian priest, told me that he was ordained in a sports stadium, along with about a hundred other men, and with a choir of several thousand schoolchildren from around the diocese singing the Missa Cum Jubilo.

Also, if I remember correctly, Bruckner’s Mass in E minor was first sung at an outdoor Mass in Linz.
 
catherine_m said:
In the 18th Century in Ireland the Penal Laws were passed. Under these laws Priests and Bishops were forbidden from saying Mass. As a result people would gather at a “Mass Rock” (a large rock in a field) or at a “safe house” where the Priest would say Mass unknown to the authorities. These would have been occasions when the Tridentine Mass would have been celebrated outside of a Church or Chapel.
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Just ran into this post today, but I thought I’d let you know that the altars at the Mass Rock had altar stones. I’m near 80, and my parents were from Ireland who often told me about their parents and grandparents experiences in those times. The attached link confirms this for at least one place in Ireland.

irelandxo.com/node/17269
 
Jenny_Z said:
Pope John Paul II, while he was Bishop/Cardinal in Poland, celebrated an open-air Christmas Vigil Mass every year in a town where the Communist government refused to allow a church to be built. I believe he did this every until he got permission to build the Church of the Ark there. (I think the name of the city was Nowa Huta?)

He also regularly celebrated Mass with young people on hiking trips.

(I’m in the middle of reading JPII’s biography right now 😛 )
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Yes, Mass was celebrated outdoors in Nowa Huta for 28 years starting in 1959. Nowa Huta is actually part of Krakow, not a separate city.
 
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