Was there a pope that wasn't a bishop previously?

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Every single men under 80 are eligible to become pope, even without being ordained. Was there any case like this in Church history?
 
fabio_rocha said:
Every single men under 80 are eligible to become pope, even without being ordained. Was there any case like this in Church history?
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I recall that there was, but I cannot remember the name. I’m sure someone else will come along with the answer.
 
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Every single men under 80 are eligible to become pope, even without being ordained. Was there any case like this in Church history?
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Every single or widowed, Catholic man. Age is no bar to election, it only affects the ability of Cardinals to vote for the office.

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Aren’t they to be ordained after being elected anyway?

So I guess hypothetically they’d only be pope without being a bishop between the time they accept and the moment they are ordained a bishop.

I’m not 100% on that though…
 
smichhertz said:
Aren’t they to be ordained after being elected anyway?

So I guess hypothetically they’d only be pope without being a bishop between the time they accept and the moment they are ordained a bishop.

I’m not 100% on that though…
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You are correct. If a layperson was elected pope, he would first have to be ordained a priest, then a bishop, and then he could be made Pope. This could happen all in one day or over a course of several weeks.
 
bilop said:
Every single or widowed, Catholic man. Age is no bar to election, it only affects the ability of Cardinals to vote for the office.

God Bless
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I do not think you necessarily HAVE to be single. I doubt it would ever happen but I’m pretty sure the requirement is simply a Catholic male in good standing with the Church.
 
dshix said:
You are correct. If a layperson was elected pope, he would first have to be ordained a priest, then a bishop, and then he could be made Pope. This could happen all in one day or over a course of several weeks
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So my dream of being the first married Pope is now dashed? 😛
 
Joshua_Shorter said:
I do not think you necessarily HAVE to be single. I doubt it would ever happen but I’m pretty sure the requirement is simply a Catholic male in good standing with the Church.
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You have to be able to be ordained a Bishop (Bishop of Rome).

The Church does not allow married men to be ordained a Bishop.

God Bless
 
bilop said:
You have to be able to be ordained a Bishop (Bishop of Rome).

The Church does not allow married men to be ordained a Bishop.

God Bless
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Yet the newly elected Pope could dispense from this disciplinary aspect of Canon Law and allow himself to be ordained anyway.
 
Elizium23 said:
Yet the newly elected Pope could dispense from this disciplinary aspect of Canon Law and allow himself to be ordained anyway.
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I have seen this argument before, but I’m not sure that I buy it…
How can a layman be the Bishop of Rome? When a bishop is elected to the papacy, he becomes Pope the moment he accepts the election…but it makes absolutely no theological sense to assume that this is true of a layman elected to the papacy. The layman would be the Pope-elect and only receive the power of the office once he was consecrated a bishop. Catholics don’t believe that the papacy is some special fourth degree of holy orders distinct from the episcopate…every single power of the Pope is intrinsically tied to the office of the **Bishop **of Rome. The Pope is a bishop. He is the head bishop, but he is still a bishop - not something different.
 
tjones80 said:
St. Peter wasn’t a Bishop before becoming Pope.
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How do you distinguish and separate these titles/offices as were given to Peter? When did he become bishop and when did he become pope? The answer as to who ordained him, gives answers to all these questions giving a super remark that Peter’s ordination is quite different from the one celebrated today.
 
I recall reading that somtime in the 4th to 6th centuries or so, several deacons were elected pope.
 
Pope St. Celestine V (one of the few other popes in Church History who resigned) was a hermit when he was elected pope.
 
bilop said:
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tjones80:
St. Peter wasn’t a Bishop before becoming Pope.
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Yes he was. The Apostles were the original Bishops.God Bless
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That depends on when Peter actually became pope. I don’t think there is a definitive Church teaching on exactly when it occurred. If Peter became pope by Jesus calling him the rock upon which he would build his Church, then tjones80 is correct, as Peter was only ordained later.
 
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