Was Vatican II's suppression of the prayer to St. Michael influenced by Satan?

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Considering the thinking of Pope Leo XIII behind his composition and installation of the prayer to St. Michael after Mass in 1884, wasn’t the widespread and constant recitation of this prayer after low Masses in a community setting strategically intended to at least mitigate the increasing power of Satan, and to increase awareness of his malicious designs, and therefore, necessary?

1 Peter 5:8 tells us, “Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour.”

Also, conclude what you may, but it is interesting to note that, based on my research on the Survivor’s Network of those Abused by Priests website, that Vatican II’s suppression of the prayer to St. Michael and the unprecedented upsurge in the clergy abuse scandal and cover-up seem to have a striking correlation.

It seems quite clear that the reason why it is no longer part of tradition in many parishes is because of Satan’s cunning influence, which led to Vatican II’s lifting of Pope Leo XIII’s order to recite the prayer as a Christian community after all low Masses. Sadly, many of those who have posted here seem ignorant of Satan’s seemingly obvious machinations. I mean, it is OBVIOUS that Satan did not want this prayer to be continued to prayed after all low Masses as a Christian community as Pope Leo XIII ordered for OBVIOUS reasons.

“Put on the whole armour of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.” (Ephesians 6:11)
 
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Since when was the Prayer to St Michael removed?
I say it daily and I have never heard of any priest or bishop speaking against it.
 
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On April 24th 1994, Pope John Paul II recommended the Catholic faithful to continue praying the St. Michael Exorcism prayer:

"May prayer strengthen us for the spiritual battle we are told about in the Letter to the Ephesians: ‘Draw strength from the Lord and from His mighty power’ (Ephesians 6:10). The Book of Revelation refers to this same battle, recalling before our eyes the image of St. Michael the Archangel (Revelation 12:7). Pope Leo XIII certainly had a very vivid recollection of this scene when, at the end of the last century, he introduced a special prayer to St. Michael throughout the Church. Although this prayer is no longer recited at the end of Mass, I ask everyone not to forget it and to recite it to obtain help in the battle against forces of darkness and against the spirit of this world.”
 
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Which documents exactly from Vatican II specified the removal of the Prayer to St. Michael?
 
The Holy See’s Inter Oecumenici which came into force on March 7, 1965, simply declared: “The Leonine Prayers are suppressed.”
 
Since I resumed regular Rosaries a couple years ago, I always include it after the Hail Holy Queen. I mentioned this before but several churches I attend also say it either after the Mass or after Communion.

I don’t think its being removed from the Mass was “the work of the devil”. I do think it was misguided and somewhat dumb, but we are all free to still say the prayer and God listens just as much.
 
When Inter Oecumenici states that the Leonine prayers are suppressed, it is speaking of a set of prayers that priests were required to pray after low mass, usually kneeling before the altar. The suppression of them simply means that it is no longer required by order of the Holy See to say these prayers at this specific time. This does not mean that the prayers were done away with completely. They were still available to the faithful as personal devotion and many churches took it upon themselves as popular devotion to continue to say them privately after mass. The Leonine prayers were simply one of many directives which had been added to the Mass in the years since the Council of Trent. The Council had done away with most, if not all of these additions to the liturgy as part of the liturgical reforms. As they were not technically part of part of the Mass, they required a specific clause discontinuing their required recitation after Low Mass, as the liturgical distinction between Low and High Mass was officially dissolved.

In passing, the passage simply seems more grave than it truly is. The term ‘suppression’ is simply the translation of the Latin of Canon Law. It seems to carry more weight in English, but it is just the technical language of the Church. The suppression is referring to the requirement of the priest to say the prayers. If the prayers were no longer allowed to be said at all, even as public or private devotion, the document would have used the term ‘prohibited’.
 
While it is true that the removal of the prayer from recitation after low Masses by no means prohibited the prayer, among the faithful it surely lowered awareness of the prayer and awareness of the importance of praying it. Hence, during his Regina Caeli address in 1994, St. John Paul asked the faithful “not to forget it and to recite it.”
 
Why wouldn’t a parish recite it after Mass anymore after traditionally being prayed? Considering all the evil proliferating around the world, it would seem prayer after Mass in a community setting would be more efficacious than individual private petition.
 
“Why wouldn’t a parish recite it after Mass anymore after traditionally being prayed?”

Excellent question. It seems quite clear that the reason why it is no longer part of tradition in many parishes is because of Satan’s cunning influence, which led to Vatican II’s lifting of Pope Leo XIII’s order to recite the prayer as a Christian community after all low Masses. Sadly, many of those who have posted here seem ignorant of Satan’s seemingly obvious machinations. I mean, it is OBVIOUS that Satan did not want this prayer to be continued to prayed after all low Masses as a Christian community as Pope Leo XIII ordered for OBVIOUS reasons.

“Put on the whole armour of God, that you may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.” (Ephesians 6:11)
 
The Holy See’s Inter Oecumenici which came into force on March 7, 1965, simply declared: “The Leonine Prayers are suppressed.”
 
Which obviously is not a document of Vatican II, no?

Whatever the case: of course it is not the “work of satan” but the work of Holy Mother Church. We may disagree with her prudence and with her decisions in certain instances, so long as we go about doing so in a virtuous way. But to attribute the work of the Church to satan is outrageous.
 
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spiritualsoldier said:
The Holy See’s Inter Oecumenici which came into force on March 7, 1965, simply declared: “The Leonine Prayers are suppressed.”
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That’s a description of changes in the rubrics of the Mass. That item means only that the prayer in question was no longer to be recited at Mas, not that we were forbidden to pray it privately, or even discouraged from doing so.

Further that section is headed: “Until reform of the entire Ordo Missae”.
It was not meant to be permanent, but only a description of interim changes.
 
Just a general comment: I have come to view Vatican II differently in the last year or so. Less sympathetically. Much as the Council of Trent was so controversial at the time (even within the Church) and still is for some. I think Vatican II will also live on in troubled waters. Centuries from now.
 
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