washing of feet - how did it go?

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The Knights of Columbus flanked the Procession, swords raised. Incense clouded the Church, bells were rung. The Kyrie was chanted in greek, the Agnus Dei in Latin.

During the washing of the feet, the choir sung latin Hymns. I believe one woman may have had her feet washed, too.

It was beautiful.
 
Six men (it’s a small parish). Father washed, dried and kissed each man’s foot. It was very reverent, very somber. It was a mandatum that I hope Christ would approve.
 
At my parish the foot washing included men and women. Though I picked “mixed and not 12”, there may have been 12, but I did not count :o . Also, I did not see an option for 12 mixed that included people from the pews.
 
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itsjustdave1988:
The Roman Missal
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Thanks!
 
Everyone who wanted to participate was allowed to do so…Very moving, as always.
 
Psalm45:9:
My priest is usually good about following the rubrics, but we had some women get their feet washed. :nope: But then again, we had all male altar servers! 👍
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I had the same experience. Our pastor is usually really good at following the rubrics but we had kids and teens, mixed genders. He said it was to recognize the Jr. Catholic Daughters and Columbian Squires. But we had all male altar servers last night and this afternoon. And wonderful homilies.
Just out of curiousity, where is this particular rubric defined, anyway?
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From the GIRM:
The men who have been chosen are led by the ministers to chairs prepared in a suitable place. Then the priest (removing his chasuble if necessary) goes to each man. With the help of the ministers, he pours water over each one’s feet and dries them.
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The official version of the GIRM is the Latin. In Latin, this passage uses “veri selecti” for “chosen men”. This word “veri” means an adult male, not ‘man’ as in mankind. 🙂

The USCCB a few years back approved a proposal to ask the Holy See for a change to the rubrics allowing women and children to be included. The change was never approved by the Holy See so the GRIM should be followed “as written” until such a change is approved.

According to this website, catholic-forum.com/forums/printthread.php?t=73, this is particularly significant for two reasons. First, the USCCB intended to seek permission to change the rubric, which acknowledges that they can’t change it without permission and secondly, the fact that they needed to propose a change at all means that they acknowledge that the current rubric is for men only.
 
7 women and 5 men. I was a little disappointed, but my pastor is generally so very obedient to the rubrics that I did not question him. It was very reverent, but still bothered me nonetheless.
 
At our church the priest chose to do the washing of the hands and everyone was washed. I found it a very nice change and felt completely cleansed. 🙂
 
Madaglan said:
5 men, 6 women and 1 trans-gendered. 🙂
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wow, sounds like a really opened minded parish. Though I understand if you don’t answer (the person’s confidentiality), do you know “which way” the trans-person went? In other words, were they born female and now live as a male or the other way around?
 
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From the GIRM:

The official version of the GIRM is the Latin. In Latin, this passage uses “veri selecti” for “chosen men”. This word “veri” means an adult male, not ‘man’ as in mankind.
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Not to let facts get in the way of a good story–especially one with a direct quote and all–but the word “feet” doesn’t appear in the GIRM at all.
 
I don’t want to start another thread. On Good Friday the parishoners at my parish go up to venerate the Crucifix on their knees. They walk like in a Communion line except on their knees all the way. Does this happen at any other parish?
 
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The Roman Missal states: “men are chosen (viri selecti)” The Congregation for Divine Worship has affirmed the liturgical requirement that only the feet of men be washed at the Holy Thursday liturgical rite.

See here: Washing of Feet on Holy Thursday
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Yea, but Bishop O’Malley of Boston took his request to the Vatican and they allowed him to wash the feet of women. Now the claim is that the Vatican approves of this. I can’t seem to clarify if this permission was only given to the Archdiocese of Boston or to the entire US.

Micki
 
I suppose you could say I cheated…I went to a parish that I knew would have only 12 men. They would never think to deviate from the norms unless there was explicit directions to do so from the Holy See.
 
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kmktexas:
I had the same experience. Our pastor is usually really good at following the rubrics but we had kids and teens, mixed genders. He said it was to recognize the Jr. Catholic Daughters and Columbian Squires. But we had all male altar servers last night and this afternoon. And wonderful homilies.

From the GIRM:

The official version of the GIRM is the Latin. In Latin, this passage uses “veri selecti” for “chosen men”. This word “veri” means an adult male, not ‘man’ as in mankind. 🙂

The USCCB a few years back approved a proposal to ask the Holy See for a change to the rubrics allowing women and children to be included. The change was never approved by the Holy See so the GRIM should be followed “as written” until such a change is approved.

According to this website, catholic-forum.com/forums/printthread.php?t=73, this is particularly significant for two reasons. First, the USCCB intended to seek permission to change the rubric, which acknowledges that they can’t change it without permission and secondly, the fact that they needed to propose a change at all means that they acknowledge that the current rubric is for men only.
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So, judging by this thread, there are a lot of arrogant priests who have no concept of humility and obedience. Nice. Are humility and obedience not being taught in our seminaries anymore?

Too busy teaching our priests how to kow-tow to a bunch of man-hating radicals, I guess. So sad. :nope:
 
Dr. Bombay:
So, judging by this thread, there are a lot of arrogant priests who have no concept of humility and obedience. Nice. Are humility and obedience not being taught in our seminaries anymore?
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That’s one possibility.

Another possibility is that there’s a bunch of lay people who think they know what they’re talking about, but really don’t have a clue.

So far two people in this thread have told me that the men only requirement is in the GIRM. They’re both wrong. It only takes a second or so to check the facts before posting, but both of these people were so convinced that they were right that they didn’t even bother. One poster (the one you quoted) went as far as to post the relavent paragraph from the GIRM–a paragraph that is no where in the document!

The truth of the matter (as far as I’ve been able to research), is that:

  1. *]The requirement is found in the Sacramentary, not the GIRM.
    *]The priests seem following the guidelines set for them by National (U.S.) Conference’s Committee of the Liturgy.

    It seems very unfair to me to accuse a priest of pride and disobedience when he turns to his bishops for advice, and then follows the advice that they give him.
 
Went very bad, priest had the EMs wash his feet.

Then afterwards, when service was done, everyone was praying quietly, he came back into the church to make some announcements.

Getting fed up with my parish.
 
Im sorry that your experience was not a pleasant one…however what my church did was have 12 clergy (priests and deacons) get their feet washed, and then went out to different stations around the church to wash anyones feet who came forward. it was a very communal experience. also very humbling. i do prefer it this way, so that no one is excluded and only some are “chosen”. just my thoughts! but no need to dwell on the bad times! Happy Easter! Our Lord has risen!
 
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