Washington Church Welcomes Muslims for Prayers

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Every Friday inside a historic church, there is a call to prayer – answered by hundreds of Muslims, surrounded by Christian icons. Two religions sharing the same space.
Farooq Syed has been organizing these Friday prayers ever since the Church of the Epiphany opened its doors to the Muslim faithful who needed a place to worship eight years ago.
cbsnews.com/news/muslims-washington-church-friday-prayers-ramadam/

I’m very proud of this Episcopal church in Washington, DC for sharing its sanctuary with the Muslim community. Two Abrahamic faiths worshipping in the same sacred space. Jews and Christians have shared space for decades and now it’s time to bring in our Muslim brothers and sisters.
 
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I’m very proud of this Episcopal church in Washington, DC for sharing its sanctuary with the Muslim community. Two Abrahamic faiths worshipping in the same sacred space. Jews and Christians have shared space for decades and now it’s time to bring in our Muslim brothers and sisters.
Very charitable of the Church of the Epiphany to permit the Muslim congregation the use of their sacred space. Fostering this kind of cooperation between the two religions is a great step on the road to understanding and peace between us. And it appears to have fostered some appreciation of the Christian faith as well among some of the Muslim adherents as well which can only be seen as good.
 
I am curious what y’all are trying to prove, since my Muslim friend has gone to church with me. I don’t understand, are you insinuating that those that don’t belong to your religious group hate Muslims?
 
I am curious what y’all are trying to prove, since my Muslim friend has gone to church with me. I don’t understand, are you insinuating that those that don’t belong to your religious group hate Muslims?
I don’t think anyone is insinuating anything. Just highlighting an act of charity by a church to another faith group. I’m sure there are plenty of examples among other Christian faiths of space sharing, Catholics included.

I think you might be seeing a slight where none is intended.
 
do they not have a place of worship of their own?

I am glad the Muslims who are coming to worship in this church are not demanding Christian icons be covered up.

this sets a good example of how two faiths can come together and respect one another.
 
I’m glad that they’re respecting each other and how, I saw on CBS news (I believe?) that one man worshipping there said that the Christian icons were “beautiful.” It’s great how Muslims can respect us, and we can respect them.

But I’ve always one concern, and it applies to this. In one service at that church, the Islamic one, this God-man is not being worshipped:

http://www.statenislandmuseum.org/images/uploads/collections/the-crucifixion.jpg

Of course, that would not be to say that we should not treat Muslims as our brothers and sisters, because we always should (as with everyone else).
 
cbsnews.com/news/muslims-washington-church-friday-prayers-ramadam/

I’m very proud of this Episcopal church in Washington, DC for sharing its sanctuary with the Muslim community. Two Abrahamic faiths worshipping in the same sacred space. Jews and Christians have shared space for decades and now it’s time to bring in our Muslim brothers and sisters.
NOTE: They are not worshiping together. They are praying together. Prayer and worship are not the same thing.

God Bless
 
NOTE: They are not worshiping together. They are praying together. Prayer and worship are not the same thing.

God Bless
The two faith communities are using the same space - at different times - to worship God.
 
Interesting. The pastor seems to be a woman and from the picture you see the Muslims praying are all men. In Islam men and women are segregated. I guess you can assist segregationist beliefs so long as they are from a non Christian religion?
 
Interesting. The pastor seems to be a woman and from the picture you see the Muslims praying are all men. In Islam men and women are segregated. I guess you can assist segregationist beliefs so long as they are from a non Christian religion?
Yes, the rector of the church is a woman. And yes, most Muslims segregate during worship, as do Orthodox Jews, as do many Orthodox Christians, as do several other Christian congregations. The tradition of segregating the genders has nothing to do with clergy who are female.
 
Yes, the rector of the church is a woman. And yes, most Muslims segregate during worship, as do Orthodox Jews, as do many Orthodox Christians, as do several other Christian congregations. The tradition of segregating the genders has nothing to do with clergy who are female.
I wouldn’t say the tradition of segregating sexes has nothing to do with clergy who are female. I’d imagine that any group that segregates the sexes has no female clergy. But what I find odd is allowing a group that segregates to use the church. I can’t imagine that church would allow other groups that segregate to use the church.
 
Yes, the rector of the church is a woman. And yes, most Muslims segregate during worship, as do Orthodox Jews, as do many Orthodox Christians, as do several other Christian congregations. The tradition of segregating the genders has nothing to do with clergy who are female.
orthodox Christians segregate during worship?
 
orthodox Christians segregate during worship?
Not all but many do. It depends on the congregation and the ethnic tradition, as well as location (US vs Eastern Europe for instance.) When I attend a Liturgy in US or Canada, I’d say it’s about half and half. I am less familiar with churches in their home countries, but I have been told that gender segregation is much more prevalent there.
 
I can’t imagine that church would allow other groups that segregate to use the church.
Well, obviously that’s not the case in this instance. Perhaps they thought it more important to offer the Muslims space for worship than to challenge their tradition of segregating the men and women.
 
When I hear stories like this I wonder at the purpose of the building being there. Is it a set apart building where Christians gather to worship the true God or is it a building where all gods and faiths are respected? What is more important? Is there any precedent for this in the history of Christianity?
 
When I hear stories like this I wonder at the purpose of the building being there. Is it a set apart building where Christians gather to worship the true God or is it a building where all gods and faiths are respected? What is more important? Is there any precedent for this in the history of Christianity?
The ‘building’ is a consecrated church. It was consecrated in 1852 by a Bishop. Of course it is set apart - it’s sacred space. That’s what makes it a church. Are all faiths respected there? One would hope so. Holy space recognizes holy people and holy prayer. I don’t understand what you are asking here. Are you asking if churches should only hold Christian - and denominational Christian - worship?

Is there precedence for shared places of worship? Of course there is. Jews and Christians have shared consecrated sanctuaries in many places for decades. Look at all the interfaith chapels there are in hospitals and airports. I would guess that in all of Christian history, there are many times when faith communities have shared space.
 
The ‘building’ is a consecrated church. It was consecrated in 1852 by a Bishop. Of course it is set apart - it’s sacred space. That’s what makes it a church. Are all faiths respected there? One would hope so. Holy space recognizes holy people and holy prayer. I don’t understand what you are asking here. Are you asking if churches should only hold Christian - and denominational Christian - worship?

Is there precedence for shared places of worship? Of course there is. Jews and Christians have shared consecrated sanctuaries in many places for decades. Look at all the interfaith chapels there are in hospitals and airports. I would guess that in all of Christian history, there are many times when faith communities have shared space.
The division between the Church and the Jewish people became rather obvious by the second century. Christians and Jews ceased to share the same spaces that they might have in the first century and I can’t find many examples of Christians and Muslims sharing the same spaces of worship during the early centuries.

You give the same credibility of worship to the Islamic God and accept the decision of Muslims to worship someone who is not Jesus in a sanctuary set apart for the purpose of worshipping the Trinity. I don’t understand this.
 
Hatikavah and IgnatianPhilo raise some good points. While it’s nice that this church lent it’s worship space to these Muslims 8 years ago because they didn’t have a place to go (is that still the case today?) I wouldn’t call this either a good or bad thing, much less be proud of the church for doing so. I’d be proud of them if the church was bringing souls to Christ. Unfortunately, that’s not the case.

The article states that it started off with 50 Muslims worshiping. Today, that number is over 300 each Friday for this prayer service. This is the extremely disconcerting part: “I don’t know if they ever thought that Muslims would come here and pray, and become one of the biggest congregations of Church of the Epiphany,” Syed said. “This is the biggest congregation that Church of the Epiphany has, the Muslim prayers.”

Why is this disconcerting? Because that’s 300 souls that have rejected Christ as God, worshiping not in a space that was specifically created for interfaith worship like an airport, but a building that was consecrated to our Lord and our God, Jesus Christ. It is truly disheartening that the leadership at the Church of the Epiphany is unable to have Christians make up the dominant congregation at a church dedicated to Jesus Christ. I challenge Rev. Gardner: what does it mean to truly love people? Allowing a group of people who do not worship our Lord by tolerating their worship in Christ’s church? Or is it preaching the Gospel in a heroic way to win souls for Christ? If they thought that allowing the Muslims to come inside and worship would lead to their conversion, it obviously hasn’t worked as the Muslim congregation has tripled in size, so it might be better to try and switch to another more effective way of evangelizing.

That’s not to say there’s anything wrong with two different religions sharing a space out of charity. A Presbyterian church just recently did this for the Catholics in Chicago who lost their parish to a fire, and welcomed them in for Sunday Mass. The difference here, is that we hold many things in common. They are both Christian, both adopted sons and daughters of God by virtue of their common baptism, both in the same Body of Christ. This is not so with our Muslim friends. The differences between us are real and much more stark. I acknowledge Christians and Muslims worship the same God, as several Christians do not feel this way. But they are sadly very far from the Truth, the Way, and the Life. Perhaps it’s time to focus on an outreach to fallen away Episcopalians and other Christians instead on Friday nights, as a re-evangelization seems to be sorely needed if the church can’t get more than 300 Christians to gather for Sunday liturgy.

I figured I’d take a look on Google Maps, and it turns out the Masjid Muhammad Mosque is only 1.5 miles from the Church of the Epiphany, a 9 minute drive. While it could be possible these two groups have differing beliefs as the various Christian denominations do, please note that the Masjid Mosque is pretty open about ecumenism, so I don’t see why all Muslims wouldn’t be welcome there:

thenationsmosque.org/2016/06/29/u-s-institute-of-peace-iftar-celebrating-diversity-in-islam/
…it’s sacred space. That’s what makes it a church. Are all faiths respected there? One would hope so.
Actually, one would hope not. I respect people’s decisions to believe in what ever religion (or lack thereof) that they want, but as a Christian, I do not respect Islam, nor do I respect Hinduism or atheism. Why don’t I respect Islam? Because it denies Jesus Christ the worship that is due to Him. Muslims see “through a mirror darkly.” Very darkly. They don’t even acknowledge that God is a person. And to deny the divinity of Jesus and the Holy Spirit… that is untenable. The only faith that should be respected in a Christian church is Christianity.

The very definition of “respect” demands it:

-an act of giving particular attention : consideration

-high or special regard

Shouldn’t all of our attention, as Christians, be focusing completely on Christ in glorifying His Name? Shouldn’t we hold Jesus in the highest regard possible in a church consecrated to him? Especially when resources should be used on bringing Christ to others? Friday is a happening night in America; you would think there’d be something the various ministries at the Church of the Epiphany could come up with to bring souls to Christ in a crowded metropolis on a Friday evening. I think it says something that there are more Muslims ready and willing to worship at the start of the weekend than Christians.

Another disconcerting part of the article is the end:

“It’s amazing, you know, it’s amazing to see two things together,” Syed said. “Who can imagine, you know, church bells ringing and a Muslim giving the sermon. It’s a moment of reflection for people who think we are different. We are all the same. We are all the same.”

No, sadly, we are not all the same. Are we all human beings? Yes.Are we all made in the image and likeness of God? Yes. But this man’s statements sound a lot like universalism. There are major differences between Christianity and Islam that cannot be overlooked. And I’ll say it straight up:

Christianity is superior to Islam.

Why? Because we are saved by the sacrifice Jesus made on the cross. And we need to lead people to Him. Can we all admit to this here, that Christianity is superior to Islam since no one comes to the Father except through Jesus? Or will we follow Syed’s lead into this pseudo-universalism? I can’t be proud of what this church is doing. It was a nice gesture, that’s for sure, but 8 years on, it might be time to re-evaluate the mission of this particular church in light of the dearth of Christians in this congregation, and in light of what we’re called to do as Christians… to set the world on fire with the Word.
 
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