We agree porn is bad, but should it be banned?

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I want to say that it should, but I personally think the answer has to be no, not because the consequences of pornography aren’t bad enough (stunted sexual maturity, addiction, erratic and definitely criminal sexual behavior, destroyed lives on the parts of the users and their associates), but because the consequences of enforcing such a law seem to have the potential for enabling insane levels of tyranny just by the tools it requires for enforcement being in government’s hands and that we can just disincentivize it by educating people on what it does, building support networks, etc.

I am open to other views, though. If you think it’s a price worth paying, or if you can figure out a method of enforcement that doesn’t end in a dystopian surveillance state, please let me know.

God bless.
 
Did you meant to say the consequences of pornography “ARE” bad enough instead of AREN’t chance? Othewise I am confused by your post.
 
I’m saying the consequences of porn are bad. So no, that’s not a grammar error on my part, just a style one. Oops.
 
Well, I don’t know if selling poison to children is illegal. Probably so. We don’t want kids ingesting poison. Yet when it comes to poisoning their mind, heart, and conscience, we’re far more lenient.
 
i think pornagraphy should absolutely be banned

but it never will’ve been

it is a billion dollar industry; makes conventional hollyweed look like pikers 😦
 
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No use. Like abortion, banned or not, people will still have access to it.

It’s not great. Just being realistic.
 
so the force of law has no effect?

in a different reality; couldn’t the USA ban pornography & abortion; and make these evils punishable?

i know that is unrealistic in these rotten times of crud & corruption…

imagine something different…
 
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The ACLU debated whether or not Nazis had the right to free speech in the 1930s. Ultimately, they concluded that attempts to silence Nazis would increase the acceptance of their message.

Banning porn isn’t practical. Any attempt to do so will immediately be struck down by the court.

Catholics need to take a good, hard look in the mirror and realize that government cannot save everyone from anything and everything.

It’s quite amazing we have become prosperous enough to even have that conversation, but it’s just not possible.

And far as those laws being reflected back on us, count on it 100% with a good chunk of the Church supporting its own demise.
 
Hello.

Yes it should be banned in my opinion but it needs to be completely and accurately defined first.
 
Catechism of the Catholic Church: 2354
Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials,
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Based on the above, I would have to say, yes, we should try to ban it. However, I’m sure that prudential judgement plays a role, and I’m not sure that attempting to ban pornography through legislation would be an effective strategy in the United States right now. I would suggest at the very least we focus on those who have been forced into pornography and trying to make sure they have a viable escape. Until our culture has a shift in how it views pornography, simply trying to ban it won’t help.
 
Maybe we should just legalize rape and slavery while we are at it.

After all, what can we do? It’s going to happen, right?
 
Porn is still unlawful by federal law. So yeah, it’s unlawful. The government has turned it’s back just as it does every time an abortion mill arises. And does nothing to stop it.
 
I don’t mind if it is banned to save my children from it. The method should be that it is officially prohibited and if caught producing it (for public or private consumption) the penalty (either fine of jail term) should be high enough to be a reasonable deterrance.
 
How does an argument to not make something illegal inspire you to write a pointless retort arguing to make things that are already illegal legal?
 
It is illegal in Indonesia. The constitution makes it legal in America. The problem began in the 1950s, became accepted in the 60s, became a way of life in the 70s, and then we invented the Internet. Meanwhile I have to say, on a positive note, Hollywood, has chosen to cut down explicit content since the extreme 70s.
 
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I want to say that it should, but I personally think the answer has to be no, not because the consequences of pornography aren’t bad enough (stunted sexual maturity, addiction, erratic and definitely criminal sexual behavior, destroyed lives on the parts of the users and their associates), but because the consequences of enforcing such a law seem to have the potential for enabling insane levels of tyranny just by the tools it requires for enforcement being in government’s hands and that we can just disincentivize it by educating people on what it does, building support networks, etc.

I am open to other views, though. If you think it’s a price worth paying, or if you can figure out a method of enforcement that doesn’t end in a dystopian surveillance state, please let me know.

God bless.
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The laws should reflect the morality of the disordered acts. Pornography is contrary to both chastity and dignity.

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2354 Pornography consists in removing real or simulated sexual acts from the intimacy of the partners, in order to display them deliberately to third parties. It offends against chastity because it perverts the conjugal act, the intimate giving of spouses to each other. It does grave injury to the dignity of its participants (actors, vendors, the public), since each one becomes an object of base pleasure and illicit profit for others. It immerses all who are involved in the illusion of a fantasy world. It is a grave offense. Civil authorities should prevent the production and distribution of pornographic materials.

2355 Prostitution does injury to the dignity of the person who engages in it, reducing the person to an instrument of sexual pleasure. The one who pays sins gravely against himself: he violates the chastity to which his Baptism pledged him and defiles his body, the temple of the Holy Spirit.140 Prostitution is a social scourge. It usually involves women, but also men, children, and adolescents (The latter two cases involve the added sin of scandal.). While it is always gravely sinful to engage in prostitution, the imputability of the offense can be attenuated by destitution, blackmail, or social pressure.
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Prior to Vatican II, for many long centuries, the Church opposed freedom of religion. She pushed Catholic states to crack down on heresy and non-Christian religions to promote unity of faith. Didn’t work out so great. The Church has learned from that… heresy and rejecting Christ remain grave sins, but the Church no longer encourages states to make matters of faith illegal.
 
I agree with the OP. I fear that banning porn could potentially lead to a tyranny that would at some point infringe on our liberties.

Perhaps some form of regulations could be a solution. For instance, all porn sites must be registered under .xxx URL. Declare them a public health risk, tax them like cigarettes and fine them heavily if they breach the rules. A large portion of the taxation can go towards campaigns, education and addiction support.
 
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