"We are the Church"

[Alfgeir]

I suggest that you make your case (preferably in a single thread per issue) by citing any instance that you have found where there is a fallible error of man in Catholic teachings so that we can discuss that.

At this point I would say that you are offering a blanket generalization without substantive proof.

I would also point out that it is best to discard the n-C faith communities as examples because none of them existed prior to about 500 years ago, and their myriad of diverse interpretations all offered as Biblically correct would (IMO) better display the fallibility of the teachings of men than the Catholic Church ever will.

I encourage you to open single threads on each instance that you feel supports your statement and assure you that you can count on my faithful Catholic brothers and sisters and I to deal with each one as you do so.

Too many times, I’ll say you put your faith further into the Church than Scripture… Scripture is not man and can’t be capable of mass error like an organized Church can be. The Catholic Church came by and started interpreting scripture saying “This and this and this is what gives you salvation, do it and you’re good in God’s Eyes.” No, that’s not what the Church is supposed to do… The Scripture already covered that, and if you take the time, all of you, not just a few, to really study scripture I believe you can make the proper connections.

Non-Catholic communities existed before the Catholic Church too, again I have told you why I say that. The fundamental teachings of the Catholic Church contain error… nearly every one(I don’t feel like pointing every single one out again because all that resulted in was 3 IP bans and also the ban of around 7 of my other accounts, the people didn’t even put up good arguments to note…). I don’t believe that ANYONE should interpret Scripture AT ALL… like you all say, it’s personal interpretation and is a dangerous game… You can only take verses in the Bible and use them in context because that’s not interpretation… that’s justification. If anyone claims to have the authority to interpret Scripture they’ll only be there to deceive you…

“For I know this, that after my departing shall grievous wolves enter in among you, not sparing the flock. Also of your own selves shall men arise, speaking perverse things, to draw away disciples after them. Therefore watch, and remember that by the space of three years, I ceased not to warn every one night and day with tears." -Acts 20:29-31

Clearly false teachers can and will enter the Church.

“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves” (Matthew 7:15).

If Jesus meant for us to rely so heavily on the Church which would be without error in YOUR opinion why would he tell us to “beware of false prophets”? They come in sheep’s clothing but are there to deceive you into straying from the truth, they can enter the church!

 

[Ragnvald]

Look I can’t even get a post off in seconds before getting banned, I NEED TO TALK ELSEWHERE… I can NOT discuss here, aren’t you people supposed to be charitable? I can’t even get a word off without getting a message saying “Circumvention of ban, Change Lifted: Never”

I will discuss the issue with you, Church Militant, GLADLY in my free time at a place ANYWHERE but this forum, I can’t stand this non-sense!

 

[Ragnvald]

When **** like this happens I remember one quote I see occasionally on this forum… “I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians, your Christians are so unlike your Christ.”