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davidv
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What part of post 118 did you not understand? It seems quite clear to me what the main objection is.
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RGCheek
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lol, God has been proven repeatedly.
Belief in Him is not an intellectual question so much as it is a moral one.
Belief in Him is not an intellectual question so much as it is a moral one.
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Bahman
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I don’t see the objection and I would be happy if you clarify it.
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davidv
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I’ll will attempt to summarize:
OP: “We cannot deduce the existence of God”
Objection: St. Thomas Aquinace deduced the existence of God.
Therefore the OP is false.
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Bahman
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But the contrary can be correct too.
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davidv
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How can this be? The logical principle of non-contraction indicates that an item and its contrary cannot both be true.
What is the contrary?
Thomas’ deduction is a matter of factual history. His deduction has survived many decades of intense scutiny, and has never been shown to use invalid logic.
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Bahman
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Hence he is wrong. Why? Because metaphysical concept has to be simple so an average person could understand it because God is simple.
We are conscious beings and we cannot deduce things we haven’t experienced. Like when a person wants to deduce love without falling in love. We have to face ourselves to make the sense of Self.
Newton also was correct for almost 300 years and he had the very basic fact, objective reality, in his disposal.
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davidv
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Who is the “he” in the above?
I have no idea what this means. I think you are misusing the term, simple.
How do you know this?
So what does this have to do you with Aquinas’s deductions?
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Bahman
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Thomas.
God is simple. That is what Jesus said. Hence the metaphysical concept that define reality in the core has to be simple.
I gave you an example: Like when a person wants to deduce love without falling in love. We have to face ourselves to make the sense of Self.
His proof is very hard for an average person. Hence he is wrong.
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davidv
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What does simple mean in this context?
Examples do not demonstrate how you know. Besides, I don’t believe your example is true.
Oh really? You really degraded your credibility with this one.
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Bahman
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What is simple? It is something that a kid can understand. Otherwise it is no knowledge. Quoted from Einstein.
We have to face ourselves to make the sense of Self. I keep practicing it and I get a positive result always.
I will make it.
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Tomdstone
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Many people think that the idea of a Trinitarian God is not simple.
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Bahman
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Jesus clearly mentioned that God is simple. People makes stories based on false understanding and then contradicting their own belief.
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Ignatius
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That is completely False. Jesus never said that.
Also, you are apparently unaware of the fact that Jesus IS God. Additionally, God the Father is God and The Holy Spirit is God. That is not simple.
Making blatently false Fase statements does not help your credibility.
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Bahman
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I agree. I search Bible and there was no phrase like that. So I quote Einstein.
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Linusthe2nd
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And I doubt Einstein said it either.
Gee Bahman, you searched the whole Bible since yesterday? Sounds like a Paul Bunyon stroy to me.
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Bahman
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Actually to be correct, Einstein said that “knowledge should be simple so a kid can understand it”. It is very easy to search Bible these days. You need one of those on-line Bible.And I doubt Einstein said it either.
Gee Bahman, you searched the whole Bible since yesterday? Sounds like a Paul Bunyon stroy to me.
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RGCheek
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This thread is meandering, pointless and ill defined.
Have a great weekend folks.
Have a great weekend folks.
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Bahman
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Seriously? Do you want to discuss the premises with me? Are you dare?
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Ignatius
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Yes, it’s pretty much run its course. The MODs can terminate this one any time.
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