We Don't Need Confession Anymore, Do We?

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Tonks40:
In our parish, we have confession every Saturday for an hour, and usually have 2-3 priests. The lines are long at all confessionals and the ages run the gamut from the young to the old. When we have penance services during Lent, the church is full, with at least 8 priests available for the congregation. At least in my parish, it looks like the Sacrament is alive and well. 👍
For this to happen it requires a priest who cares.

My pastor came to hsi current parish about 16 years ago. At that time when he had confession two maybe three people would show up. So, for three years at every homily he said something about the necessity of confession. Now, there is confession 30min before every mass mon - sat and there is confession for a few hours on saturday evening and there is a confession established strictly for the youth on sunday night before the 6pm mass (Life Teen). And at every time slot for confession there are always people who have t come back another time because the lines are so long morning noon and night. More priests need to care about the souls of their flock like Msgr Raun does.
 
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For this to happen it requires a priest who cares.

My pastor came to hsi current parish about 16 years ago. At that time when he had confession two maybe three people would show up. So, for three years at every homily he said something about the necessity of confession. Now, there is confession 30min before every mass mon - sat and there is confession for a few hours on saturday evening and there is a confession established strictly for the youth on sunday night before the 6pm mass (Life Teen). And at every time slot for confession there are always people who have t come back another time because the lines are so long morning noon and night. More priests need to care about the souls of their flock like Msgr Raun does.
An example of a holy Priest. I haven’t heard a call to confession from the pulpit in 30 years, except for our Men’s Group Conference every year, by lay speakers… At that event 50 priests show up to hear confessions.
 
I was registered in as many as 4 different parishes in the last 15 years. I didn’t realize what I was looking for, but left each time it seemed to be too progressive for me. Then one day, I walked through the doors of a nearby parish that was about 15 minutes away. I never knew it existed - like an oasis. It is highly traditional and orthodox, and quite loaded up with people from all over Southeast Michigan who are traditional-minded Catholics.

In all of those other parishes I was in over those years, plus about another three I visited frequently, I could only spot a handful of people waiting for confession and they all had grey hair. The exception was Divine Mercy Saturday when there were about 20 people (mostly with grey hair and only 2-3 younger folk).

Advertised times in the parish I just joined in June are 2:30-3:30 on Saturday and 1/2 hour before each Sunday Mass. The priests put way more time in than those advertised hours…

On Saturdays there are between 2-4 confessionals running and rather than stopping at 3:30, they continue on until 4:00 Mass. It is a continuous stream of people.

Then, on Sundays before each Mass there are 2-4 confessionals running, each line having between 5-7 people standing in line and more waiting in nearby pews for the lines to go down! The priests often cannot finish them before Mass, so they come back after Mass and are in there until the next one often. I’ve even seen them come back after the last Mass of the day.

Not only that, but I go to weekday Mass before work at 7:30. At least one priest always goes to his box after the 7:30 Mass and before the 8:30 Mass and will hear a small number of confessions…daily! One priest almost always comes out to hear confessions before the 7:00 pm daily mass too.

One thing I’ve noticed in this parish (Assumption Grotto - Detroit), priests seem to know that people will respond to a priest in the confessional - so they go, often unadvertised and the people come. Conversely, I’ve noticed that if people go stand outside the confessional when there is no priest, he responds and comes to hear their confession. Many people seem not to be bothered that the priest will see them as he goes into the box.

Aside from the sheer numbers, were the ages that struck me. The lines are well-balanced with all age groups. I’ve seen young children of about 8 on up to elderly. Entire families go together.

Why is it so? I’ve pondered this and have conlcuded that the priests feel it is their responsibility to foster an environment where confession thrives. They do this by making themselves available. This tells the people that it is important. However, that is not all. It is in the homilies.

Homilies here are anything but fluff. However, they are not fire & brimstone, “your going to hell” types either. Rather, they are simply well-balanced. There is plenty of talk about peace, love, and mercy. But there is also talk of sin, sacrifice, humility, God’s justice, and devotion. Unlike other parishes, you will hear about contraception, abortion and other hard issues. What I have found in myself is that their homilies are the type you might encounter on a retreat that will make you dig deep.

In order to be of clean spirit, you must let the Holy Spirit clean house. Therefore, these priests also emphasize the need to spend time in silence in adoration - a place where house cleaning often takes place. Many cannot sit in silence for this reason - it is painful. But any personal change is painful so they are there to support too and I find this support in confession.

I pretty much stopped going two years ago and before that only went 3-4 times yearly. It was always the same list. I now go twice monthly, face-to-face, and my confessions are ever changing - an indication of progress, imho.

In conclusion, I believe we must pray for our priests because the confession problem is a pastoral one. Too many homilies are based on fluff and there is too much concern over self-esteem. The focus in church should be more of salvation than of self-esteem. For so many Catholics in the pews to have such mistaken ideas that confession is no longer needed, means that the priests must start discussing the issue in their homilies. And, when there is more than one priest at a parish, there is really no reason one shouldn’t be in the box 30 minutes before each Mass. In time, people will come.

In order to fix the problem, priests will need to spend time in prayer, along with the rest of us who understand this great need. Then they will need to begin talking about mortal sin and accepting Holy Communion and the necessity of confession.

Think about when you last heard a priest talk about it at Mass???
 
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emom:
I believe everyone is in mortal sin with the standards that the Catholic Church gives us.
The Church is only assisiting us in reaching heaven. God’s way is never easy - but that’s why we have reconciliation - to help pick us up when we fall fall fall.

And not everyone is in a state of mortal sin.
 
catsrus said:
3 years ago, as I went through R.C.I.A., the Sacrament of Reconciliation was not emphasized at all. When I asked my sponsor about it, she said she went once a year as it was only for those in mortal sin.

Yes, this is a common attitude and I think this is the result of poor catechsis. Confession is one issue, but we should also consider that examining our consciences everyday, and properly, is rarely discussed.
 
At my home parish there is an hour on Saturday for Confession, one priest, and upwards of 3,000 families registered in the parish. There is a line, but it’s not too long.

At my parish in Oxford there were far fewer families, three Masses daily, and Confessions both on Saturday at a schedules time AND before each daily Mass. There were 6 priests there, so there was always at least one available at these times. I missed it as soon as I got on the plane home…

Like all sacraments, Confession is a source of strength and grace. I can’t imagine my life without it.
 
I think many people go twice a year, at the giant reconcilliation services in Advent and Lent. There are 6 priests there and the lines are long.

When I was first Catholic, that is what I did, because that is how I first went to confession, so it seemed the normal way to do it.
 
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Pug:
I think many people go twice a year, at the giant reconcilliation services in Advent and Lent. There are 6 priests there and the lines are long.

When I was first Catholic, that is what I did, because that is how I first went to confession, so it seemed the normal way to do it.
You should see the Penance Services in Lent at my parish (same as referenced in my above post). Every Friday you would think that it were a Sunday Mass there are so many people stacked into the parish.
 
Two documents relevant to this discussion:

Misericordia Dei and Instrumentum Laboris

Here is just an excerpt from Misericordia Dei:
  1. Ordinaries are to remind all the ministers of the Sacrament of Penance that the universal law of the Church, applying Catholic doctrine in this area, has established that:
a) “Individual and integral confession and absolution are the sole ordinary means by which the faithful, conscious of grave sin, are reconciled with God and the Church; only physical or moral impossibility excuses from such confession, in which case reconciliation can be obtained in other ways”.(12)

b) Therefore, “all those of whom it is required by virtue of their ministry in the care of souls are obliged to ensure that the confessions of the faithful entrusted to them are heard when they reasonably ask, and that they are given the opportunity to approach individual confession, on days and at times set down for their convenience”.(13)

Moreover, all priests with faculties to administer the Sacrament of Penance are always to show themselves wholeheartedly disposed to administer it whenever the faithful make a reasonable request.(14) An unwillingness to welcome the wounded sheep, and even to go out to them in order to bring them back into the fold, would be a sad sign of a lack of pastoral sensibility in those who, by priestly Ordination, must reflect the image of the Good Shepherd.
  1. Local Ordinaries, and parish priests and rectors of churches and shrines, should periodically verify that the greatest possible provision is in fact being made for the faithful to confess their sins. It is particularly recommended that in places of worship confessors be visibly present at the advertized times, that these times be adapted to the real circumstances of penitents, and that confessions be especially available before Masses, and even during Mass if there are other priests available, in order to meet the needs of the faithful.(15)
  2. Since “the faithful are obliged to confess, according to kind and number, all grave sins committed after Baptism of which they are conscious after careful examination and which have not yet been directly remitted by the Church’s power of the keys, nor acknowledged in individual confession”,(16) any practice which restricts confession to a generic accusation of sin or of only one or two sins judged to be more important is to be reproved. Indeed, in view of the fact that all the faithful are called to holiness, it is recommended that they confess venial sins also.
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Continued from my post above…

And, from Instrumentum Laboris:

Where many faithful know that they cannot receive communion while in mortal sin, they do not have a clear idea of what constitutes mortal sin. Others give no thought to it. Oftentimes, the situation creates a vicious circle: “I won’t receive communion because I have not gone to confession; I don’t go to confession, because I have no sins to confess.” Though such an attitude can be traced to a variety of causes, the principal one is a lack of proper catechesis on the subject.

Another rather widespread problem is created by a lack of access to the Sacrament of Penance at convenient times. In some countries, individual confessions have been eliminated. At most, the Sacrament is celebrated twice a year, during a communal liturgy, resulting in a hybrid form of the Sacrament which draws from both the second and third rites provided in the ritual.

Certainly, thought needs to be given to the great disproportion between the many who receive Holy Communion and the few who go to confession. The faithful frequently receive Holy Communion, without even thinking that they might be in the state of mortal sin. As a result, the receiving of Holy Communion by those who are divorced and civilly remarried is a common occurrence in various countries. At funeral Masses, weddings or other celebrations, many receive Holy Communion only out of the generally-held, mistaken conviction that a person cannot participate at Mass without receiving Holy Communion.
 
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cargopilot:
In my parish, more than a thousand people receive the Blessed Sacrament every week. But the line for reconciliation is just a handful of the same old sinners.

Did we miss a memo?
*We don’t need confession if we are already in heaven.
Maybe we ought to double-check, are we the only ones not yet in heaven !?1? *

oh, well.

gusano

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It is because we are all perfect, right? 😉

Our bishop has mandated that the Sacrament of Reconciliation be offered in every parish for AT LEAST forty minutes a week. In some parishes, there is only one priest. He was a tad perturbed that people were coming to him stating there was no real time to confess, as there was a 15 or 20 minute period on Saturdays.

We have confession in our parish several times during the week, on Saturday for an hour or so, and on Sunday between the two Masses (just in case). And we only have one priest.
 
When is the last time anyone heard a homily or sermon about the nuts and bolts of the sacrament of Confession?

I mean like the seal of Confession on the part of the priest, the different options that are available, the form and format, the different types of penances, historical stuff (sackcloth and ashes).

One of my priest friends invites people to have a walking confession. On his lunch hour, he invites individuals to go for a walk on church grounds, munch an apple and talk about your life. Get some spiritual direction, confession, and some fresh air. Very private. He is on the go all the time and people appreciate his being available. One day he gave a retreat and when I confessed to him, he looked kind of grey and peaked. I asked what he did during the breaks, and he said he was giving another retreat at another parish about a few miles away at the same time. So someone drove him back and forth.

A number of priests hear confessions after daily Mass. They stay as long as there are people.
 
I have always wondered what happened to the confession lines. When I was a kid ( pre Vatican II ), the church was open for an hour or so every Sat. afternoon with two priests hearing confessions and then again on Sunday morning before Mass. Today in the same parish our pastor has Confession after the 5:30 Sat evening Mass, it has got to the point that he only stays a few minutes because it is such a rarity for someone to show up. On the other hand a parish in the next diocese
(just a few miles away) has lines that are very long every day at their midday mass and is loaded on Sat. too. I have gone to both and the priests were excellent at both places. The only difference I can see is the parish with the big numbers uses the old style confessional with the screen. Does anyone think this makes a difference? I would like to find out.
Mike
 
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mercygate:
I sound like a cynic but 90 percent of the time when people stay away from confession, it has to do with dread of confessing sexual sin. But you could throw in missing Mass on Sunday (huh? Is that still a sin since Vatican II?).
That was exactly my problem. I didn’t realize how big a deal birth control or missing Mass was, but over the last few months I’ve had a huge turn-around spiritually, and had come to regret it. It took me a couple of weeks to get up the nerve to get an appointment (we have confession scheduled once a week, but I work during that time). Am I ever glad I did!!! My priest was amazing; he rebuked me while being nice at the same time. I’m definitely not waiting so long next time!
 
I don’t know about any memo LOL…but I know my sinful and broken self is there nearly every week…Confession is one Sacrament, in addition to The Eucharist, that I like to participate in as much as possible. But yes…the number of other Catholics there is few and usually the same ones…yet, hundreds at my parish receive The Eucharist every Mass…either I must be the only one that sins in my parish or confession is not a priority anymore. I guess that is why most parishes only have confession now on Saturdays for 30 minutes…how sad is that?
 
As John Paul the Great and Popes before have stated, the loss of the sense/reality of sin has made great strides in diminishing ‘active participation’ in the sacrament (I can’t help but wonder how many pro liturgical revolutionaries actively participate in this sacrament!–maybe a little too active?)

While the decline in the sense of sin has primarily secular origins, it is clear that so often the Church has breathed in these toxic fumes, too.

All of the anecdotes and suggestions are worth passing on–it is especially important to pray and give good example–how often priests do sit and just wait for no one.
However, I think St. Josemaria once said something like ‘a priest never wastes time in the confessional waiting for folks’
the loss of priestly identity, poor catechesis, lack of example and such small times available for confession–these and more put us in this situation.
But it is also astonishing how people will eventually get to confession when the priest is there–i also say, ask the priest after Mass–go and ask for an appointment–maybe you’re not alone and they’ll add times, Maybe if we ask for more formation around this sacrament, they’ll begin to teach from the pulpit.
I think we have to be assertive in getting to confession and asking priests–it is a canonical right.
 
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cargopilot:
In my parish, more than a thousand people receive the Blessed Sacrament every week. But the line for reconciliation is just a handful of the same old sinners.

Did we miss a memo?
I just wonder at questions like this.

How do you know where and when people chose to avail themselves of confession?

I do not confess at my parish. I have a spiritual director who happens to be the abbot of a local monastery. I take care of my confession there. Many people I know schedule time at the monastery for confession.

Others I know have a set appointment with their pastor and do not go during the scheduled time.

Do not take this personally as it is not directed totally at you but maybe people need to be more focused on themselves and what they are doing rather than what everyone else is doing.
 
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ByzCath:
Do not take this personally as it is not directed totally at you but maybe people need to be more focused on themselves and what they are doing rather than what everyone else is doing.
David,
That’s a really good point. That’s a lesson that The Lord is trying to teach me right now and I’m glad you brought it up.

God Bless,
Gary
 
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