We hear about cafeteria Catholics, but what about

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cafeteria Christians?

Doesn’t the large number of Christian denominations confirm that most Christians are cafeteria Christians, in that they belong to denominations that broke off from others because the members disagreed on doctrine or practice, or over some other seemingly insurmountable disagreement?
 
Yep!

After all, if you “aren’t being fed,” try another “restaurant.”
 
kalt said:
cafeteria Christians?

Doesn’t the large number of Christian denominations confirm that most Christians are cafeteria Christians, in that they belong to denominations that broke off from others because the members disagreed on doctrine or practice, or over some other seemingly insurmountable disagreement?
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Seeing as they broke off from the true Church, all of them must be Cafeteria Christians.
 
Keep in mind that George Tiller, the “baby killer” abortionist was murdered while serving as an usher at his reformed Lutheran church. If that isn’t a cafeteria christian then I don’t know what is…
 
kalt said:
cafeteria Christians?

Doesn’t the large number of Christian denominations confirm that most Christians are cafeteria Christians, in that they belong to denominations that broke off from others because the members disagreed on doctrine or practice, or over some other seemingly insurmountable disagreement?
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This may be why we have so many Baptist Churchs today.
 
Unfortunately, I think cafeteria-style faith is common in every denomination, every religion, even ours. How may people consistently practice natural family planning? How many of our fellow parisioners have been divorced? How many of us indulge in pride? How many of us attend Reconciliation regularly? Do we faithfully attend Mass each Sunday and every Holy Day of Obligation? Do we consistently observe days of fast and abstinence?

I’ll stick with Catholicism - and continue to love it - but will have to take a good hard look at how I stand in relation to God’s commands and the Church’s doctrine. I may just have to cast the first stone at myself, I’m afraid.
 
NCSue said:
Unfortunately, I think cafeteria-style faith is common in every denomination, every religion, even ours. How may people consistently practice natural family planning? How many of our fellow parisioners have been divorced? How many of us indulge in pride? How many of us attend Reconciliation regularly? Do we faithfully attend Mass each Sunday and every Holy Day of Obligation? Do we consistently observe days of fast and abstinence?

I’ll stick with Catholicism - and continue to love it - but will have to take a good hard look at how I stand in relation to God’s commands and the Church’s doctrine. I may just have to cast the first stone at myself, I’m afraid.
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And how many of us as Catholics love to brag and be prideful that we follow the rules, go to holy days of obligation, go to confession regularly, and feel like we’re better than those ‘cafeteria’ folks? This sounds like the bragging and boasting that Paul warns us to avoid. For all we know, those ‘cafeteria’ Catholics might be better, holier, more humble people than you or me…🤷
 
You’re right about the large number of Baptist churches, Bill. My mother grew up Baptist and she would tell me stories about church splits and all the hard feelings they caused. Sometimes they were over the simplest things, too. She found the unity of the Catholic church a major attraction for her.
 
Timothysis said:
Keep in mind that George Tiller, the “baby killer” abortionist was murdered while serving as an usher at his reformed Lutheran church. If that isn’t a cafeteria christian then I don’t know what is…
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Oh man, I totally agree. :mad:
 
I think all Catholics are cafeteria Catholics, even traditionalists.

There are writers, devotions, and spiritual practices that appeal to some people and not to others.
 
kalt said:
We hear about cafeteria Catholics, but what about
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cafeteria Christians?
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That’s a good question.

Why don’t people talk about “cafeteria Christians”? Or, for that matter, “cafeteria Protestants”? (Well, I guess there’s one obviously answer to the latter question, i.e. that “cafeteria Protestants” has no alliteration. :D)

“Certainly I have met with little of the fabled odium theologicum from convinced members of communions different from my own. Hostility has come more from borderline people whether within the Church of England or without it: men not exactly obedient to any communion. This I find curiously consoling. It is at her centre, where her truest children dwell, that each communion is really closest to every other in spirit, if not in doctrine. And this suggests that at the centre of each there is something, or a Someone, who against all divergences of belief, all differences of temperament, all memories of mutual persecution, speaks with the same voice.”
  • C.S. Lewis
 
kalt said:
cafeteria Christians?

Doesn’t the large number of Christian denominations confirm that most Christians are cafeteria Christians, in that they belong to denominations that broke off from others because the members disagreed on doctrine or practice, or over some other seemingly insurmountable disagreement?
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This is becoming tiresome.
  1. Erect strawman.
  2. Knock strawman down.
  3. Repeat
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I think I see your objection, O.S. Luke; but leaving aside the other details of the OP, I definitely think that “cafeteria Christian”, “cafeteria Protestant”, “cafeteria Lutheran”, “cafeteria Methodist”, etc. etc. are all legitimate concepts.
 
bpbasilphx said:
I think all Catholics are cafeteria Catholics, even traditionalists.

There are writers, devotions, and spiritual practices that appeal to some people and not to others.
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I think the term cafeteria catholic only refers to the people who pick and choose what parts of the faith and church teaching they believe, not what devotions or spiritual practices they use.
 
kalt said:
Step 1 should be - Call any legitimate point you don’t like “Staw Man”. 🙂
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It’s illegitimate the way you post it. There are certainly Cafeteria Christians, but trying to show that “Protestants do it too” doesn’t change the fact that Catholics do it. That’s the textbook definition of the Strawman fallacy.

Why didn’t you just say, “Why do we have Cafeteria Christians?” instead of making Catholics sound better than Protestants? That’s what you did in your post, whether you meant to or not or whether you like it or not.

That’s a page out of the Jack Chick book. He’s not right to do it, either.
 
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This is becoming tiresome.
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I agree.

I hate this thread, if for no other reason, and there is little other reason, it has made me side with O.S. Luke.

I was interested at the title because there are Cafeteria Christians, they are typically called, “Unitarians,” but, there are stupid things happening in other sects as well.

Anglicans: Who knew that starting a religion SOLELY on the principle of the no fault divorce would get morals murky over time?

Reformed: Women pastors

In general: the people who don’t believe going to church makes a difference, those people who preach that God hates __________, the people behind the pulpit who lead congregations and teach that Jesus wasn’t divine, those who would like to incorporate eastern philosophies at odds with the core teachings of Catholicism, unchaste and immoral actions inspite of regular prayer and church attendance (though, this may be due to an ill informed conscience), ect.

There ARE plenty of ways one could be a Cafeteria Christian, but, this thread turned, and maybe it didn’t start out that way, to bash and bait Protestants. Speck meet Beam.

This thread really, SHOULD be reported for the lack of charity it tolerates.
 
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