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Ok now for the big streach.

Sugar consumption is related to sex addiction in some people.

CCC 377 beginning of all sin is unnatural use of goods.

In some unfortunate souls their sugar addiction has wipped out the nutrients in the brain that allow them to feel good.

Their seems to be only three things I know of that will give them rest.
Alcohol or other toxic substances producing euphoria.
Sex addiction producing euphoria.
Prescription Drugs.

We normally jail them if they are advanced sinners and not on prescription drugs.

Not all, I suggest some may be just rebellious sinners but how many are sugar addicts from their upbringing. They are relatively innocent and we can save them with a simple diet cure.

JOhn
 
John, everyone here has acknowledged that too much sugar is bad. The links you provided, though informing, are pretty common knowledge. Yes, excess sugar that isn’t consumed by the body is turned into fat for future use. But that is EXCESS sugar, meaning you body needs some sugar to survive and use as energy. Yes, this could come from natural sugars (fruits and veggies preferably) but also in refined sugars. They are both converted to the same molecule (glucose) in the end. Its important to moderate all intake of all foods, not just sugar. Eating an excessive amount of salt is just as bad as well as excess fat is just as bad as excess sugar.

I have 2 years of biochemistry and molecular biology study under my belt so this information is coming from memory, but if you need a source for my claims just ask. I’ll gladly find them for you.
 
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John, everyone here has acknowledged that too much sugar is bad. The links you provided, though informing, are pretty common knowledge. Yes, excess sugar that isn’t consumed by the body is turned into fat for future use. But that is EXCESS sugar, meaning you body needs some sugar to survive and use as energy. Yes, this could come from natural sugars (fruits and veggies preferably) but also in refined sugars. They are both converted to the same molecule (glucose) in the end. Its important to moderate all intake of all foods, not just sugar. Eating an excessive amount of salt is just as bad as well as excess fat is just as bad as excess sugar.

I have 2 years of biochemistry and molecular biology study under my belt so this information is coming from memory, but if you need a source for my claims just ask. I’ll gladly find them for you.
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Great you have studied this then you can substantiate my claims that refined sugar robs the body of vitamins and minerals when it burns in the cells.

Have you seen the latest, that sugar (refined) floods the blood brain barrier stopping nutrients from producing needed brain chemicals.

Will you finally agree with me that sugar is a drug not a food?

John
 
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Try the other links.

A couple of extra comments, perhaps Marlin Monroe the orphin was a sugar addict, before they used her to temp a whole generation?

Did you see the Surgeon General try to get Firemen and Police Officers to stop eating DONUTS.

This guy needs a raise for fighting the real epidemic.

John
 
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jbuttrey:
Ok now for the big streach.

Sugar consumption is related to sex addiction in some people.

CCC 377 beginning of all sin is unnatural use of goods.

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The “mastery” over the world that God offered man from the beginning was realized above all within man himself: mastery of self. The first man was unimpaired and ordered in his whole being because he was free from the triple concupiscence254 that subjugates him to the pleasures of the senses, covetousness for earthly goods, and self-assertion, contrary to the dictates of reason.
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I wouldn’t interpet this as you have.

I have also read the link you provided on the Surgeon General. No where does he mention sugar. What he does mention is fat and lack of excersise.
“Medical research shows that stress actually changes the nervous system and hormones in ways that encourage fat accumulation around the waist,” Carmona said. “This type of fat has been linked to increased rates of high blood pressure, heart disease and diabetes. National Fire Protection data shows that heart attacks caused by overexertion or stress caused 40 percent of all firefighters deaths in 2001. This is the number one cause of line of duty deaths for firefighters.”
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He is discouraging donuts because of the FAT content not the sugar content.
Sugar is necessary for life and the body does not distinguish where that sugar comes from. God made us to want sugar. We are born with the taste for it.
God Bless you John. I think further postings will do no good since you are not open to the truth.
 
“Idolatry is committed, not merely by setting up false gods, but also by setting up false devils; by making men afraid of war or alcohol, or economic law [or sugar], when they should be afraid of spiritual corruption and cowardice.” ~G.K. Chesterton

I thought this was needed.

Yours in Christ,
Thursday

P.S.
Homer Simpson: A big mountain of sugar is too much for one man. I can see now why God portions it out in those little packets.
 
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jbuttrey:
Will you finally agree with me that sugar is a drug not a food?

John
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Hi John.

You know that sugars are carbohydrates.

When you eat pasta, they are sugars.

We need sugar to live.

I am sorry that you were abused, but can you not see the madness in what you are advocating.

It is a conspiracy theory.

And sugar does not destroy your brain. 😛 Thats mad.

IN Christ.

Andre.
 
How many good reputable doctors do I have to quote to convince you guys. You have seen three already and the surgeon general.

The English needed alcohol and tobacco up to 1950 because England was awash in Sugar that they kept importing from the old slave plantations (read about John Newton, AMAZING GRACE). The english and I am one of them lived on slavery and sugar for 100 years God forgive us.

The latest good reputable doctor to fight sugar is a book in lots of libraries. God’s Diet by Dorothy Gault-Mcnemee, M.D.

I quote page 130 " Sugar, corn syrup, and cornstarch are DRUGS. They are addictive and when you eliminate them from your diet you will go through withdrawal." Her capitalization of DRUGS.

Many good people have had addictions, lots of English liked their beer and tobbacco but young people in college and especially pregnant women are damaging their babies with fetal alcohol syndrom. Don’t you think its time to stop, as an example to these young women if nothing else.

St. Paul paraphrased if it hurts my friend you have hurt Jesus.

John
 
It is a conspiracy theory.

And sugar does not destroy your brain. 😛 Thats mad.

IN Christ.

Andre.

The site I got the info on sugar and other refined carbohydrates affecting the brain was a link on Catholic Answers. Dr Ambrosios site. Destroy the brain might be too STRONG

JOHN
 
for whom? Navy personnel in the silent service? discussion of our preferences in grinders and hoagies?

just being silly, I think we have adequate coverage of parenting issues and health on family forum and water cooler
 
“Idolatry is committed, not merely by setting up false gods, but also by setting up false devils; by making men afraid of war or alcohol, or economic law [or sugar], when they should be afraid of spiritual corruption and cowardice.” ~G.K. Chesterton
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Amen! Can I get an ‘Amen’? 👍

If you want to fight “demon sugar” or other food demons, I’d suggest hooking up with some SDAs.
 
This thread is on the weirder side of weird and in some places very disrespectful to some Saints. :ehh: Perhaps I’m missing out on the finer details of the sense of humour intended by this thread, but if I didn’t laugh first time round, chances are I won’t laugh second time round. It just isn’t that funny.
 
I must admit, I’ve never felt that sugar was particularly evil. I do believe however that salt is up to no good, pepper is a womanizer and cinnamon is a compulsive liar.

Don’t even get me started on paprika.

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carol marie:
I must admit, I’ve never felt that sugar was particularly evil. I do believe however that salt is up to no good, pepper is a womanizer and cinnamon is a compulsive liar.

Don’t even get me started on paprika.

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Now that was funny! :rotfl:
 
One more time!

In my time I have read 1000 stories of God healing people of every disease imaginable from going off sugar. Of course most
thought it was just NO Sugar. So why would God unannounced
heal all these people just for one little act of self control. Because it is a natural law eat food the way God made it you get health. Eat DRUGs called FOOD you get sick.

Come to me and see 100 healing stories I have right now. Just think what we can do with God and God’s Food.

Of course bad Fats are in donuts but some fats your body needs.
You don’t need white Sugar. Donuts are made with sugar and dipped in sugar. Heed the surgeon general he’s on the right track.

So to recap

Scripture warns us against food offered to idols twice.
The catachism emphasis self control.
Science tells us Sugar destroys health.
Good witnesses support it. Doctors who practice disease prevention.
Addicts like me attest, I was set free 25 years ago. Its been tried by me for 25 years. You don’t need white sugar. Captives (drug Addicts) are set free.
The sick are healed and the broken hearted forgiven as they didn’t know they were drugged by the culture of death.
The poor receive the good news

This kept me alive until I found the true church - The Catholic Church just 5 years ago.

God forgive my ego, You alone are worthy of Praise in the name of The Father, The Son and Holy Spirit.

John
 
carol marie:
I must admit, I’ve never felt that sugar was particularly evil. I do believe however that salt is up to no good, pepper is a womanizer and cinnamon is a compulsive liar.

Don’t even get me started on paprika.

😉
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Thus Carol Marie has given us the low down on the infamous Condiments/ Spice Gang. 😃
 
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