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We don’t need more Muslims. We need more faithful Catholics and more Catholic converts. 👍
 
I don’t mean to speak for her, but I think maybe Sister Amy’s point is something like one can’t be a Muslim and reject jihad out of hand, just as Catholics are required to believe in the validity of the doctrine of Just War as promulgated by the Church, even though we may squabble amongst ourselves as to its correct application.
 
Dhiyaa Al-Musawi an intellectual from Bahrain. He is spot on when it comes to the Arab mind in general and the sick and backward ideologies that Arabs suffer from. He is someone who admits publically of having a picture of Jesus that gives him relief, without the stupid mantra of worshipping images. When people get beyond stupid ideologies and limited perspectives and look a bit farther than their nose, we get people like him, who are rare.
 
Well Arabs, specifically Muslim Arabs need a miracle to get out of the mental jail they live in. Legalism has imprisonned their capacity to think beyond their nose and the culture of death is so rampant that even kids reflect it. Actually, i was surprised to hear a Muslim calling it a culture of death since it is a title we use in here about Jihadists.
 
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You’re right on target, and they don’t have a truthful answer for this. It was not revelation from God, but inspiration from elsewhere. He accomplished quite a feat, but for what real purpose?
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From a Muslim perspective, it isn’t essential for the prophet to be a miracle worker. There are even verses in the Qu’Ran that deal with the possibility of Muhammad’s death.

The idea is that Muhammad himself was just a man who happened to be chosen to receive the Qu’Ran. Outside of that role, he wasn’t supposed to be anything special. That’s what a Sunni would tell you, at least. A Shi’ite would believe that there was something special about Muhammad (and his descendants, for that matter), and would cite the miracles that happened to Muhammad, although both groups would tell you that working miracles was not his role.
 
Lujack said:
From a Muslim perspective, it isn’t essential for the prophet to be a miracle worker. There are even verses in the Qu’Ran that deal with the possibility of Muhammad’s death.

The idea is that Muhammad himself was just a man who happened to be chosen to receive the Qu’Ran. Outside of that role, he wasn’t supposed to be anything special. That’s what a Sunni would tell you, at least. A Shi’ite would believe that there was something special about Muhammad (and his descendants, for that matter), and would cite the miracles that happened to Muhammad, although both groups would tell you that working miracles was not his role.
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Thank you. I’ve been to the Middle East, and studied about Islam. If one believes from the Muslim perspective, you will believe many false things. The Koran is indeed a cleverly deceitful document, and many people unfortunately have their rule of faith and life by it.

The intent of “Christ Is Life” post was to compare Mohammad with other prophets, in the real world… to ask Muslims to look outside their falsehoods. Even within Islam, Muslims do believe in other prophets, of whom these prophets did perform miracles. Is it wrong to ask them to consider why it is that the one they held as the greatest and final prophet didn’t?
 
MDK said:
Thank you. I’ve been to the Middle East, and studied about Islam. If one believes from the Muslim perspective, you will believe many false things. The Koran is indeed a cleverly deceitful document, and many people unfortunately have their rule of faith and life by it.

The intent of “Christ Is Life” post was to compare Mohammad with other prophets, in the real world… to ask Muslims to look outside their falsehoods. Even within Islam, Muslims do believe in other prophets, of whom these prophets did perform miracles. Is it wrong to ask them to consider why it is that the one they held as the greatest and final prophet didn’t?
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They don’t worry about that, because that wasn’t his role. His role was to deliver the Qu’Ran. It isn’t wrong to ask them why, but it isn’t an effective question because Muhammad’s lack of miracles is not important to them.
 
Lujack said:
They don’t worry about that, because that wasn’t his role. His role was to deliver the Qu’Ran. It isn’t wrong to ask them why, but it isn’t an effective question because Muhammad’s lack of miracles is not important to them.
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Some may actually start to think for themselves. That’s the issue. It’s one more thing to consider and chip away. Of course it isn’t wrong to ask them. Why in the world would it be?
 
MDK said:
Some may actually start to think for themselves. That’s the issue. It’s one more thing to consider and chip away. Of course it isn’t wrong to ask them. Why in the world would it be?
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They might think for themselves, and that might lead them to remain Muslim. I never implied that it was wrong to ask them. All I’m trying to say is that isn’t close to being that “magic bullet” question that will cause people to leave Islam.
 
Lujack said:
They might think for themselves, and that might lead them to remain Muslim. I never implied that it was wrong to ask them. All I’m trying to say is that isn’t close to being that “magic bullet” question that will cause people to leave Islam.
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Please understand what was said… You had made the pronouncement that “It isn’t wrong to ask them why” to which I stated “Of course it isn’t wrong to ask them. Why in the world would it be?” I hope you understand why I said this.

In addition, I had said that “It’s one more thing to consider and chip away” to which you pronounced “it isn’t close to being the magic bullet question that will cause people to leave Islam.” To which I would say, it wasn’t intended to, and I don’t think anyone was confused about that. Like I said before, “they don’t have a truthful answer for this.”

One thing that many intelligent people consider is that not all responses are intended for the benefit of one person, or one particular group. The original question is also for non-Muslims to know and understand another thing about Islam. This was also a consideration on my initial response to “Christ is Life” which we haven’t discussed. I didn’t think I really needed to…, until now.
 
Muslims believe that Muhammad was a Nabi. This Arabic word means Prophet and equates to the Hebrew word Navi.
"In Judaism, a prophet is seen as a person who is selected by, and speaks as a formal representative of God, and the intention of the message is always to effect a social change to conform to God’s desired standards initially specified in the Torah dictated to Moses.

In Hebrew, the word traditionally translated as prophet is נְבִיא (navi), which means “spokesperson”.[3] This forms the second of the three letters of TaNaKh, derived from Torah, Nevi’im, Ketuvim. The meaning of navi is perhaps described in Deuteronomy 18:18, where God said, “I will put my words in his mouth and he will speak to them all that I command him.” Thus, the navi was thought to be the “mouth” of God. The root nun-vet-alef (“navi”) is based on the two-letter root nun-vet which denotes hollowness or openness; to receive transcendental wisdom, one must make oneself “open”. Cf. Rashbam’s comment to Genesis 20:7." -Wikipedia

So, there is no linguistic necessity for miracles. I apologize for the interruption. I will let you get back to your hypocritical, ignorant Islam-bashing. Just remember that people in glass houses should not throw stones. 😉
 
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