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Seems this should be obvious to me by now, but why again do we still need to confess our sins even though Jesus died for them?
So you mean that we go to Confession for ourselves rather than God?Confession is a healing action, not a “I won’t forgive you unless you say you are sorry” action.
Yes! All the sacraments are God’s given gifts for our own good. The sacrament of confession is an action on the path of acceptance of the gift of forgiveness. Acceptance of the gift of salvation starts with saying “I am sorry because I understand that I wronged you”.So you mean that we go to Confession for ourselves rather than God?
So, in order to accept the gift of salvation, we need to be sorry for our sins…so does that mean that even though Jesus died on the cross for us, it is still up to us to accept that fact? Otherwise we are not actually saved by His dying on the cross? unless we accept it? Sorry if I am misinterpreting.Yes! All the sacraments are God’s given gifts for our own good. The sacrament of confession is an action on the path of acceptance of the gift of forgiveness. Acceptance of the gift of salvation starts with saying “I am sorry because I understand that I wronged you”.
Yes. “You can take a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink.” God’s given us the water, taken us to it, put it in a nice pretty glass with lots of ice and has even offered to hold it for us, but He won’t force it down our throats. That part is on us.So, in order to accept the gift of salvation, we need to be sorry for our sins…so does that mean that even though Jesus died on the cross for us, it is still up to us to accept that fact? Otherwise we are not actually saved by His dying on the cross? unless we accept it? Sorry if I am misinterpreting.
You are correct. Your understanding is perfectly reflected in the prayers during the consecration of the Eucharist. In the past the translation it used to say that “Jesus died for all” and that is absolutely correct because he made his sacrifice available for all. However, now we are using again the proper translation (that follows the Council of Trent rule) that says that “Jesus died for many”. That refers to the fruits of his sacrifice and that means that not everybody will be saved because not everybody will accept the salvation. God is so merciful that he sent his only son to die for everybody, and he is also so just that he will accept the rejection of that sacrifice by some people. Just to make sure, you have to understand that confession works not because we go with our laundry list of sins but because we do that as result of our faith, of our trust in God.So, in order to accept the gift of salvation, we need to be sorry for our sins…so does that mean that even though Jesus died on the cross for us, it is still up to us to accept that fact? Otherwise we are not actually saved by His dying on the cross? unless we accept it? Sorry if I am misinterpreting.
I think that is perfectly fine to say that you do not have all the answers. I am a catechist and that is my reply when someone asks something that I am not sure of. I am an anxious person too and so I understand why you feel that you need to be prepared to answer every question. The other thing is that if someone has an honest question you are going to try to help them, if they are just trying to make a point, to argue, then you have the right to ignore them. Personally I think that it is not very charitable to put someone down by questioning their faith, we evangelize by sharing our love for Christ.You know what is most frustrating about all of this? Is that I believe! I believe it all! If I am told that I need to ask for forgiveness in Confession, then I do. But I am so worried about people coming up to me with questions about my faith - and not having the answers, that I try to ask all the questions before “they” do, so that I have the answersThis causes me undo anxiety. Maybe I need to start another post
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Jesus died so that, if we repent and ask for forgiveness, we will be forgiven.Seems this should be obvious to me by now, but why again do we still need to confess our sins even though Jesus died for them?
Does this mean that Jesus died not so much that our sins would be forgiven but that we would have the opportunity for our sins to be forgiven? Seems Im treading in the wrong water here hahaJesus died so that, if we repent and ask for forgiveness, we will be forgiven.
Consider the following: God Almighty is by definition omnipotent. Jesus Himself told the Father: “you can do anything. Take away this cup of sorrows from me. Yet, not what I want but what you want.”
And He had to drink the cup of sorrows until the very last drop.
God Almighty gave a special role to the Blessed Virgin, and Christ gave a special role to the Apostles - despite the fact that God does not need the help of any creature: all He has to do in order for something to be accomplished is to will it.
That being said: it is beyond our understanding why God, in the words of Christ, willed that we may receive forgiveness of sins not simply from Him, but through His apostles. It is a mystery why, after teaching us to pray to the Father to “forgive us our sins”, He gave authority to the Apostles to forgive and to retain sins, and told them “I do not judge anyone …] you will sit on thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel”.
If the beloved Lord had not died for our justification, then no prayer to the Father and no sacrifice would have sufficed: humanity would have never received sanctifying grace.
I go too confession,because I feel better when the priest for give me for my fault,s, for I wish to be in the state of Grace all the time, so I will be weclome in the Kingdom of Heaven.
I know that Jesus came to save us sinners, but he gave his twelve Apostates the power to give those thst wanted forgiveness.
He merited forgiveness of sins, something we could have never done on our own, even if we had experienced the most perfect of all contritions.Does this mean that Jesus died not so much that our sins would be forgiven but that we would have the opportunity for our sins to be forgiven? Seems Im treading in the wrong water here haha
Look at it from a different perspective. This metaphor might help you. You are sick and the doctor has the pill that will cure it but if you choose not to swallow it then you die. The cure exists but if you do not accept it then you die. God, sin, forgiveness, heaven and hell are a similar scenario.Does this mean that Jesus died not so much that our sins would be forgiven but that we would have the opportunity for our sins to be forgiven? Seems Im treading in the wrong water here haha
great way to word it, thank you, but I guess my question then would be, if the doctor already gave us the pill, and we accepted it, why do we take more pills?Look at it from a different perspective. This metaphor might help you. You are sick and the doctor has the pill that will cure it but if you choose not to swallow it then you die. The cure exists but if you do not accept it then you die. God, sin, forgiveness, heaven and hell are a similar scenario.
God (the doctor) has the forgiveness (the pill) that will save you but if you choose to reject it then you go to hell. Forgiveness (the cure) already exists but if you do not accept it then you go to hell (you die). We still need forgiveness as in “forgiveness only works for our salvation when we accept it”.
We can still look at the example of the doctor and of the pill. If we get indigestion then we are offered some antacids if we accept them then we feel better otherwise we get a terrible heartburn. Now if we pig out (mortal sin) again we need antacids (confession) one more time and so on, time after time. After a while people could become prone to acid reflux (concupiscence) and so taking antacids (frequent confession when no mortal sin is present) could prevent damage of the esophagus (sanctification).great way to word it, thank you, but I guess my question then would be, if the doctor already gave us the pill, and we accepted it, why do we take more pills?
You seem to think that we were sick only once. If this were true, we would sin no more. Yet we do. If you are sick, are healed, and then get sick again, would you refuse medicine on the subsequent occasions? I hope not.great way to word it, thank you, but I guess my question then would be, if the doctor already gave us the pill, and we accepted it, why do we take more pills?
Just a as a correction the priest is the physician in person because he is in Persona Christi. That is because of the ontological change of the Holy Orders, and that is why the laity cannot offer absolution.And if you do, go see the Doctor (through a physician’s assisstant, otherwise known as a priest, and then in person in the Eucharist)![]()