Wearing a Veil?

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Linnyo said:
Are veils a cultural thing because I can’t say I’ve ever seen anybody wearing one? I would rather wear a hat if we had to cover our heads.
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Veils as in mantilla? They are traditionally Spanish and Latin American. American women started to use them and after Jackie O, there was a “rush” for them.
Chapel caps and hats were far more popular until Jackie O.
There are many styles of headcoverings, and hats (appropriate ones) are more than acceptable.

Personally, I prefer the lightness of a veil. I wear a mantilla, but have worn a chapel cap more than once. You don’t even notice the cap (I forgot about it, and didn’t take it off when I left church 😊 )
 
PatienceAndLove said:
Veils as in mantilla? They are traditionally Spanish and Latin American. American women started to use them and after Jackie O, there was a “rush” for them.
Chapel caps and hats were far more popular until Jackie O.
There are many styles of headcoverings, and hats (appropriate ones) are more than acceptable.

Personally, I prefer the lightness of a veil. I wear a mantilla, but have worn a chapel cap more than once. You don’t even notice the cap (I forgot about it, and didn’t take it off when I left church 😊 )
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I can’t say I’ve actually seen people covering their heads at all.🤷
 
PatienceAndLove said:
Veils as in mantilla? They are traditionally Spanish and Latin American. American women started to use them and after Jackie O, there was a “rush” for them.
Chapel caps and hats were far more popular until Jackie O.
There are many styles of headcoverings, and hats (appropriate ones) are more than acceptable.
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My mum’s comment on the topic of head coverings in church was that Mantillas were quick and easy to put on and off (She was a teenager at the time of Vatican II). I’d also think that for a young woman who had to wear a veil because that’s the rules but still wanted to look fashionable (I’m talking in a historical context here) would like the fact that something like a mantilla could be draped over your head without disturbing any hairstyle.
Having worn veils and other head coverings in a historical reenactment context I can sympathise with the situation of forgetting what you’re wearing on your head. Veils not so much because you see the edge of the veil out of the corner of your eye but some of the little cap like things that are at the back of your head and very light are very easy to forget, as you can’t see the back of your head.
 
DebChris said:
When it comes to fashion, I tend to be a follower and not a leader. As a Eucharistic minister and lector I do not want to draw undue notice to myself. Unless others start wearing the veil, I might do exactly that were I to begin wearing a mantilla or tiechel.
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If you want to start small what about something that offers about the same coverage as a chapel cap but looks more modern and fashionable. Something like these clips with a bun cover attached 22dance.com/hair.htm (I personally like the one with the velvet bow) assuming you have enough hair to put it into a bun this could be a way of changing your habits without drawing attention to yourself or possibly receiving negative responses from other people.
If you’re good with a needle and thread it would be pretty easy to add your own bun cover (it appears to be a circle of fabric with an elastic edge) to a clip you buy at any local shop.
 
I’ve only seen a few women wearing viels in church and I am so jealous. They have the guts and the humility that I don’t have. Its that simple. I know I should be wearing one, and yet I refuse to do it. I don’t like that about myself.

One woman I know of, at last count, had 11 children.( We moved away and haven’t seen them in a couple years but she told me once she wanted a dozen or more, so I bet they did! lol) She and all her 4 or 5 girls wore veils at Mass and I just wished so much I could be like her. Every one of those kids were gently guided throughout the Mass by their mom. They always behaved. And there I was with my three boys at the time and couldn’t manage half as well, nor be nearly as humble and holy looking as her.

Each time they entered church I instinctively looked upward, because somehow I bet the angels and holy mother smile every time.
 
That is such a beautiful thing to say about that family! I’m sure she has her challenges as well - but perhaps her practice of covering her head will be what you need to give you the courage to do this yourself one day.

You can do it! All you need to do – is just do it! 🙂

~Liza
 
allaussie said:
If you want to start small what about something that offers about the same coverage as a chapel cap but looks more modern and fashionable. Something like these clips with a bun cover attached 22dance.com/hair.htm (I personally like the one with the velvet bow) assuming you have enough hair to put it into a bun this could be a way of changing your habits without drawing attention to yourself or possibly receiving negative responses from other people.
If you’re good with a needle and thread it would be pretty easy to add your own bun cover (it appears to be a circle of fabric with an elastic edge) to a clip you buy at any local shop.
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Thanks for the link. I hadn’t thought about those as options before. i am going to be in a few weddings as a bridemaid or playing my flute or a EMHC. I was planning on not wearing my veil simple because i didn’t want to be a distraction from the bride on her wedding day. I think i will use this a starting point to find something that is more apporaiate for a wedding. Thanks!
 
allaussie said:
If you want to start small what about something that offers about the same coverage as a chapel cap but looks more modern and fashionable. Something like these clips with a bun cover attached 22dance.com/hair.htm (I personally like the one with the velvet bow) assuming you have enough hair to put it into a bun this could be a way of changing your habits without drawing attention to yourself or possibly receiving negative responses from other people.
If you’re good with a needle and thread it would be pretty easy to add your own bun cover (it appears to be a circle of fabric with an elastic edge) to a clip you buy at any local shop.
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This is a good suggestion and a good link. My hair is very fine and unfortunately these fashions have not worked for me in the past even when my hair was long. I had trouble keeping them clipped. My hair is now short as I continue to look for a professional job.
There were times that I had to keep my hair up (in the Military and working in a factory). For those who might use these, I would first fix my hair in a princess style. Braiding the hair under the ponytail, I would first wrap it one direction and pin it in place and then wrap the ponytail (sometimes braided) the opposite direction.
I also liked it when I finally learned to french braid my hair. These could work with the bun at the nape for those who french braid.
 
beckers said:
Thanks for the link. I hadn’t thought about those as options before. i am going to be in a few weddings as a bridemaid or playing my flute or a EMHC. I was planning on not wearing my veil simple because i didn’t want to be a distraction from the bride on her wedding day. I think i will use this a starting point to find something that is more apporaiate for a wedding. Thanks!
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For the wedding I would choose a color closer to your own hair color and not wear white. Then you will still have your head covered but not look like part of the wedding party, or the bride.

Here is a seller on ebay who custom dyes her veils:

stores.ebay.com/CATHOLIC-TRADITIONS

~Liza
 
JenniferMoon said:
I’ve only seen a few women wearing viels in church and I am so jealous. They have the guts and the humility that I don’t have. Its that simple. I know I should be wearing one, and yet I refuse to do it. I don’t like that about myself.
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I wish I had the humility and guts to wear one too. I feel very drawn to the idea of a viel.
 
lizaanne said:
For the wedding I would choose a color closer to your own hair color and not wear white. Then you will still have your head covered but not look like part of the wedding party, or the bride.

Here is a seller on ebay who custom dyes her veils:

stores.ebay.com/CATHOLIC-TRADITIONS

~Liza
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Thanks for the link. I have been looking for a new one. the one i have is black and i got it from a friend. i wanted to get a brown one that would match my hair and she has one…WOOAHH!!!
 
catholic79 said:
I wish I had the humility and guts to wear one too. I feel very drawn to the idea of a viel.
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You sound like me about 6 months ago. If you don’t feel comfortable going at it for a sunday mass then go to adoration wearing one or go to a daily mass. Less people…
 
beckers said:
You sound like me about 6 months ago. If you don’t feel comfortable going at it for a sunday mass then go to adoration wearing one or go to a daily mass. Less people…
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I really like the adoration idea that would be a nice place to start, and I would like one for when Latin masses are offered.
 
catholic79 said:
I really like the adoration idea that would be a nice place to start, and I would like one for when Latin masses are offered.
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I wore my in adoration last week for the first time and it just felt so right. Go for it!👍
 
I do not wear a veil to mass, but I wanted to offer another suggestion to women who like the look of those scarves recommened on the first page of posts worn by jewish women. Lately at Target and other places, I have noticed headband scarves being sold for like $7-15 bucks and I saw these and how cute the were and siad to myself, I can make that!



What I did was buy 1/8 of a yard of fabric I liked, bought a 99 cent headband from the fabric/craft store at the same time, then I sewd the fabric so it made a tube, threaded in the the headband, sewed up the edges of the tube, and Voila! a headband that looked just like the expensive ones for about $1.75. I made a bunch of these for my daughter’s friend birthday present and it was a hit!

Now my thought is, you could take fabric or a scarf that you like and just wrap it around the headband and wear it much like the headband I describe and picture, tied underneath in the back. whenever I have worn a scarf or bandana on my head, it always slips off and ends up looking terrible because in trying to fix it while wearing it, I mess up my hair. This would make it stay put!

I know this really has very little to do with the topic, but it made me think of this craft and I thought you might find it helpful.
 
beckyann2597 said:
I do not wear a veil to mass, but I wanted to offer another suggestion to women who like the look of those scarves recommened on the first page of posts worn by jewish women. Lately at Target and other places, I have noticed headband scarves being sold for like $7-15 bucks and I saw these and how cute the were and siad to myself, I can make that!

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a248/Beckyann2597/headband.jpg

What I did was buy 1/8 of a yard of fabric I liked, bought a 99 cent headband from the fabric/craft store at the same time, then I sewd the fabric so it made a tube, threaded in the the headband, sewed up the edges of the tube, and Voila! a headband that looked just like the expensive ones for about $1.75. I made a bunch of these for my daughter’s friend birthday present and it was a hit!

Now my thought is, you could take fabric or a scarf that you like and just wrap it around the headband and wear it much like the headband I describe and picture, tied underneath in the back. whenever I have worn a scarf or bandana on my head, it always slips off and ends up looking terrible because in trying to fix it while wearing it, I mess up my hair. This would make it stay put!

I know this really has very little to do with the topic, but it made me think of this craft and I thought you might find it helpful.
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These are a lot like the scarves worn in the 1970’s. They are about as wide as and much more comfortable than the 1960 style hats that were often worn.
As mentioned earlier, few styles looked good on me. Even worse were scarves worn peasant style. I only wear scarves that way during the winter (I live in the South) when it is too windy without some type of ear protection. Not only did they not look good, but they did mess up my hair, which is naturally unruly anyway (lots of cowlicks).
 
Thank you all for the lively discussion and great support. We have just purchased our veils. i have 3 little girls so i got the oldest (6) the veil she wanted and the younger twins (4) chapel caps and got myself a beautiful spanish veil. i also got a chapel cap in case i find i need to ease into it.

One question, how does everyone keep it on. i have a toddler to contend with. I need some secrets on how to keep from getting it pulled off every 5 minutes.

Also websites or books you recommend to read and learn about veil wearing. i want to be able to explain and defend it as well as teach others why we wear them.
 
I believe there is a pamphlet, written by two college women,about veiling. When I get out of class, I will do a search for it.
As for the toddler-I have no problem with my daughter playing with mine. She likes to put the ends of it on her head, but she doesn’t tug on it.
Sew a comb into the seam in the front of the veil. This will keep it on without a problem. Sew a hair clip into the seam of the chapel caps, it will do the same thing as the comb.
I will take pictures of mine and post them up for you this evening.
 
I am simply astounded at the thought, and it must be uppermost in many people’s minds due to the number of threads about it, that any woman who feels moved to wear a veil in church would even consider the opinions of third parties if she decides to do so. I would think such an urge would come from a deep conviction about propriety, sacred tradition, and appropriate reverence, and that such a deep confiction would be totally unmoved by such considerations as sideways glances from other people.

Is there some reason why you can’t just put on a veil (or hat, or babushka or veanie) and just go to church? does it really need all this angst?
 
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