Wearing a Veil?

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puzzleannie said:
I am simply astounded at the thought, and it must be uppermost in many people’s minds due to the number of threads about it, that any woman who feels moved to wear a veil in church would even consider the opinions of third parties if she decides to do so. I would think such an urge would come from a deep conviction about propriety, sacred tradition, and appropriate reverence, and that such a deep confiction would be totally unmoved by such considerations as sideways glances from other people.

Is there some reason why you can’t just put on a veil (or hat, or babushka or veanie) and just go to church? does it really need all this angst?
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I think yes. As you can see there are women who feel the calling to the veil but don’t wear one. It takes lots of courage to wear one. You have to let go of all the things you’ve heard about it (you stick out and will be a distraction, people will think your holier than thou, etc) and submit yourself to God’s will. We are all human and things take time to change within ourselves and to be comfortable going against the norm of society.

When i first started getting the urge, i hide it and went looking for infomation on my own. I finally asked a girlfirend who i knew would have an extra one for me to borrow. i had it for a week or two and was discern when to try it out. i wore it to church and didn’t tell anyone until a few weeks later when a friend saw me at church. I didn’t tell or confide in many people simple because i did not want my growth to be hindered by others thoughts.
 
stayathomemommy said:
Thank you all for the lively discussion and great support. We have just purchased our veils. i have 3 little girls so i got the oldest (6) the veil she wanted and the younger twins (4) chapel caps and got myself a beautiful spanish veil. i also got a chapel cap in case i find i need to ease into it.

One question, how does everyone keep it on. i have a toddler to contend with. I need some secrets on how to keep from getting it pulled off every 5 minutes.

Also websites or books you recommend to read and learn about veil wearing. i want to be able to explain and defend it as well as teach others why we wear them.
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Here is one

christianfamilyoutreach.com/pamphlets/TheVeil.pdf
 
puzzleannie said:
I am simply astounded at the thought, and it must be uppermost in many people’s minds due to the number of threads about it, that any woman who feels moved to wear a veil in church would even consider the opinions of third parties if she decides to do so. I would think such an urge would come from a deep conviction about propriety, sacred tradition, and appropriate reverence, and that such a deep confiction would be totally unmoved by such considerations as sideways glances from other people.

Is there some reason why you can’t just put on a veil (or hat, or babushka or veanie) and just go to church? does it really need all this angst?
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I don’t see any difference in these conversations about head covering, and others about how one practices their faith. We have had discussions regarding praying the rosary in public, what sort of medals do you wear, do you kneel while receiving Holy Communion, do you wear a scapular…on and on. It’s the purpose of this very community - sharing about the faith, and supporting each other in living the faith to our fullest ability.

With all due respect puzzleannie, I suspect that you feel these conversations and discussions are full of “angst” because for some reason you are personally irked by women who cover their heads. When ever we do try to have a conversation WITHOUT the angst of those who don’t support, understand, or care for the practice, you always feel the need to voice your own angst over the practice. This thread was going along fine until you had to point this out - yet again. If you feel so much angst about women covering their heads, my suggestion in all charity, would be to just stay away from these conversations because they seem to cause you much distress.

Or buy a chapel veil and join the club. 🙂

~Liza
 
My opinion is that while some women feel a “call” to do so, some romanticize the whole thing.

And puzzleannie is right- If a woman is indeed “called” to wear a head covering, nothing is going to stop them from doing it.
 
PatienceAndLove said:
As for the toddler-I have no problem with my daughter playing with mine. She likes to put the ends of it on her head, but she doesn’t tug on it.
Sew a comb into the seam in the front of the veil. This will keep it on without a problem. Sew a hair clip into the seam of the chapel caps, it will do the same thing as the comb.
I will take pictures of mine and post them up for you this evening.
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A lot of todler’s don’t really have enough hair for clips and combs to be a lot of help, a stretchy fabric headband with a veil or other head covering sewn or safety pinned on might be a better option.
But I’d think that if she’s too young to keep a veil on she’s probably too young to understand what it means and I don’t know how much benefit she would derive from it. Of course it’s up to you, but if she really objects I wouldn’t want to insist and create negative associations with going to church.
 
allaussie said:
A lot of todler’s don’t really have enough hair for clips and combs to be a lot of help, a stretchy fabric headband with a veil or other head covering sewn or safety pinned on might be a better option.
But I’d think that if she’s too young to keep a veil on she’s probably too young to understand what it means and I don’t know how much benefit she would derive from it. Of course it’s up to you, but if she really objects I wouldn’t want to insist and create negative associations with going to church.
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I don’t insist she wear it. It is in her Church Bag, and she puts in on, occasionally, because Mommy is wearing her “Jesus Hat”. She enjoys placing the ends of my mantilla over her head.
As for not enough hair. Some children do, as my daughter does. She has just enough for a small child sized hair clip.
 
Just an aside from this morning’s news on Princess Diana’s memorial.
The royal family is high church. All the women wore hats.
One of the posts mentioned angst about wearing the veil.
I am not sure that what I am feeling qualifies.
At an earlier parish, those who distribute and/or lector were specifically asked not to wear a hat on the altar. There have been a number of good alternatives given. Any outward display of piety on my part should not be distracting.
There are some things that I am just not as competent in doing as others. When I bought a rosary bracelet, the nun had to show me how to clasp it. I wear minimal jewelry,etc.
 
I am thankful for the ideas, support, and encouragement found on these threads. I don’t have any “deep convictions” about wearing or not wearing a veil, however the idea of wearing a veil has been on my mind for about a month now, and I was thrilled to see this discussion. I am drawn to the idea of one for adoration and benediction as I see the veil as a “conversation” aid for me the same way I see the rosary for example.
 
When someone is called to do something that doesnt mean that the road is easy or without pitfalls. I am human and must fight those mainstream thoughts that the devil uses to keep me from growing in my relationship to God. He plants seeds of vanity, discomfort, and uncertainty. I thank God for this beautiful forum where we can provide support.

I am so happy for those who are able to pick up a napkin, place it on their head, and go to church without a second thought. I am here to learn from you and take some of your strength to help me take this new leap.

Going against whats the “norm” is never easy but luckily wearing a veil is much easier then other obstacles we will sometime face in our life. And i know that when i do face a calling to do Gods will, no matter how large or small/ hard or easy, i’ll have so many wonderful woman to help me through it.

I have no real “angst” about wearing a veil but since i have never been around ANYONE who wore one i am simply here to learn from all of you. As i said before thank you for all the information, we look foward to joining the club soon.

Peace of Christ, Angela
 
Well, I did it!! It felt like i was coming home. I swear i could feel the pride of the Angels as i approched the alter veiled! Very cool.

We were quite a site. My friend, her daughter, my three girls and I all in a row…the only ones with headcoverings in Church. But I didnt feel like we stood out, it really felt natural.
 
stayathomemommy said:
Well, I did it!! It felt like i was coming home. I swear i could feel the pride of the Angels as i approched the alter veiled! Very cool.

We were quite a site. My friend, her daughter, my three girls and I all in a row…the only ones with headcoverings in Church. But I didnt feel like we stood out, it really felt natural.
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Yay!
What styles did all y’all go with? Just for my own rabid curiosity 🙂
 
stayathomemommy said:
Well, I did it!! It felt like i was coming home. I swear i could feel the pride of the Angels as i approched the alter veiled! Very cool.

We were quite a site. My friend, her daughter, my three girls and I all in a row…the only ones with headcoverings in Church. But I didnt feel like we stood out, it really felt natural.
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AWESOME!!! By the way i loved your previous post too. We are all trying to be closer to God. i too thank god for these forums. i happy that we can have serious dicussions about what people are wearing, how they pray and which mass do you prefer Because it reminds me that we have the freedom to worship. We are not having to worry about hiding or being totured for praticing our faith. Praise God…
 
stayathomemommy said:
Well, I did it!! It felt like i was coming home. I swear i could feel the pride of the Angels as i approched the alter veiled! Very cool.

We were quite a site. My friend, her daughter, my three girls and I all in a row…the only ones with headcoverings in Church. But I didnt feel like we stood out, it really felt natural.
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I am SOOOO happy for you!!! It’s one of those things that is so much easier than we really make it out to be. So very happy for you all! 👍

~Liza
 
We ordered from Halo-works, I am 5’2" so my girls and I all got our veils out of the childrens area! I got the spanish rose triangle, my six year old picked the longer Child’s V in Soft Tullein white and the little girls got chapel caps. I now want a scalloped mantilla!

Now i am reading a pamphlet given to me by a friend about the Marylike Crusade. Has anyone read this. Its all about modest dress. Where you find modest dresses and skirts that are also pretty. I dont want to get “little house on the prarie” styles, also i live in Arizona so i dont want heavy, full skirts. I dont know that i could give up pants forever and always but i need to make more of an effort to wear only dresses and skirts in Church. I dont think it makes sence to wear a veil and then wear shorts and a t-shirt.

What does everyone wear??
 
stayathomemommy said:
What do you all think about wearing a veil, either for yourselves or your children?? Do any of you wear one in a church where most of the woman don’t? Is that odd? I will be ordering veils for all our girls and myself this weekend and would love to hear your thoughts as well as what type and colors are most appropriate.

THANKS!
~Angela
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I prefer it when people wear outfits of charity, kindness and tolerance.
 
stayathomemommy said:
What does everyone wear??
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I usually wear a skirt to Mass, just at or below the knee, usually full and flippy with either flowers or solid, with a short sleeve blouse or top. I like a skirt with a little twirl to it. 😉 Our Church is 175 years old and is not air conditioned. I wear sandals with heels and no hosiery (in the summer). My two veils are long mantilla style, my hair is long and so I prefer to have it mostly covered. I will wear a jacket or light sweater if it is cooler.

I feel that I dress modestly but current (not really trendy) - classic, but not stodgy at all - I hate stodgy. I REFUSE to wear a jumper.

~Liza
 
stayathomemommy said:
We ordered from Halo-works, I am 5’2" so my girls and I all got our veils out of the childrens area! I got the spanish rose triangle, my six year old picked the longer Child’s V in Soft Tulle in white and the little girls got chapel caps. I now want a scalloped mantilla!

Now i am reading a pamphlet given to me by a friend about the Marylike Crusade. Has anyone read this. Its all about modest dress. Where you find modest dresses and skirts that are also pretty. I dont want to get “little house on the prarie” styles, also i live in Arizona so i dont want heavy, full skirts. I dont know that i could give up pants forever and always but i need to make more of an effort to wear only dresses and skirts in Church. I dont think it makes sence to wear a veil and then wear shorts and a t-shirt.

What does everyone wear??
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Hey mommy! hehehe
Again- yay!
Actually just started wearing skirts only (except for long walks and utility things) and am loving it! I started a modest clothing thread somewhere in Traditional Catholicism that you are welcome to explore.
Personally, I don’t follow the Mary-like modesty, as I had a lot of un-Marylike-Modesty shirts that I had to use because I just didn’t have the money to totally change my wardrobe. I had to build a professional wardrobe first.
Anyway- I just added higher necked camis to “rescue” my un-modest skirts. Also- Sears was/is? having a really good clearance sale, and I purchased a bunch of skirts of varying dressy-ness. Those two little things did A LOT to change the flavor of what I was wearing.
Also- with you being so short, ankle length dresses/skirts are overwhelming (I am 5’3", and skirts that long make me look shorter and some how, no matter how nice those skirts are, frumpy), so you will want to look into wearing skirts that are knee-cap length to just under the knee cap, if you are wanting to stay current and more fashionable.
 
Pre Vatican II was about headcovers, not necessarily about wearing a chapel veil. Wearing chapel veils, except as an alternative to other headcovers seems to have become a bigger idea this past year than it was before.
Keeping that in mind, I think I might start by wearing a blue beret. If I begin this fall/winter, it will be easier to pick up a veil come spring/summer.
I had a job interview yesterday and so I picked up a pair of earrings at Claire’s. They had the headband scarves that have been shown on earlier posts. They also had a scarf with a ponytail holder built in so that a person can wear the scarf with her ponytail coming through the hole. Just a couple of other options. We are stylish afterall:)
 
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