Wearing a Veil?

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“Not necessary” is not the best wording. Let’s say it’s not mandatory. But it’s beautiful and very modest.
 
I’m not saying that’s what we do over here 😃 I attend Sunday Mass in the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite, so I am still blessed to see ladies (especially my mom!) wearing the veil, but we don’t see much of that in general 🤷

You know, the veil is symbolic for many important things. And there’s a strong trend in the world (which unfortunately has entered the Church from some fissure) to reject those things. There’s a nice article here 😉
 
Friday_child said:
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If there’s a parish offering the extraordinary form anywhere near you it’s likely to be more common there.

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When I started I was the only one at our parish who covered. Since then we’ve moved twice and at the EF masses we’ve attend it’s usually around 50% or more that cover in some way.
 
R_C said:
There’s a nice article here 😉
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From the article:
The chapel veil is a voluntary custom, but that doesn’t mean it’s optional. By this I mean Christian women cannot ever be compelled to keep the custom against their will, but at the same time this does not mean it’s okay for women (or anyone for that matter) to “pick and choose” which apostolic customs to keep and which to ignore. The word “Catholic” means universal, complete and whole. To be Catholic is to accept ALL of the customs of Christianity, not picking and choosing customs, as if Christianity where a salad bar. The term “Cafeteria Catholic” is an oxymoron. If one approaches Christianity with a “cafeteria” (pick and choose) mentality, one cannot be “Catholic” by the very definition of the word. Catholic women should keep this in mind. Refusing to wear a veil (head covering) in no way harms one’s status in the Church, because women can no longer be disciplined for refusing to veil, now that the code of canon law no longer requires it. However, it does reflect a mentality which “might” become potentially harmful to one’s Catholic faith eventually. If one chooses to “pick and choose” on such a little thing as the chapel veil, it’s not a far step from “picking and choosing” on other more important issues, such as artificial birth control, modest dress, gossip, complaining, mass attendance, regular confession, etc. etc. etc… Please don’t misunderstand, the chapel veil in no way “protects” women from these other issues, it’s just that refusing to keep one apostolic custom, “could perhaps” lead to ignoring other more important customs. Both men and women should consider this carefully.
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Perhaps a bit too far?
 
R_C said:
I don’t know, I’m not the author, and the author is - as far as I know - a lay faithful 🙂
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I think the question was with respect to the fact that the author claims that it is not optional for women to wear a headcovering using the false claim that we must keep all the customs in the Catholic Church. We must hold to all that is passed down through Tradition, not trdition, in other words, we must hold to all authoritative teachings made by the Church with respect to faith and morals, however, there is no obligation to keep each and every tradition or custom that was at one time (or place) practiced within the Church, to do so would be impossible. 🤷
 
If we read 1 Corinthians 11:1-17 we should qiuckly notice that St. Paul does not use cultural bias in telling Christian women to wear a headcovering…his words do not come from the taproot of culture, but directly from Genesis and creation.
Now if we look at verse 16, this was a unified command to have our heads covered, notice the word…“we”. This would have been agreed upon by all the Apostles or leaders. Obviously Paul was addressing a situation in the Corinthian church and this was just one of the problems he was addressing, This is an occasional epistle and Paul was not just writing for personal leisure.
I have never worn a headcovering at church, but it is giving me food for thought
 
Ruthcloud said:
If we read 1 Corinthians 11:1-17 we should qiuckly notice that St. Paul does not use cultural bias in telling Christian women to wear a headcovering…his words do not come from the taproot of culture, but directly from Genesis and creation.
Now if we look at verse 16, this was a unified command to have our heads covered, notice the word…“we”. This would have been agreed upon by all the Apostles or leaders. Obviously Paul was addressing a situation in the Corinthian church and this was just one of the problems he was addressing, This is an occasional epistle and Paul was not just writing for personal leisure.
I have never worn a headcovering at church, but it is giving me food for thought
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Oh! Don’t get me wrong, it is a wonderful tradition and I think it is great to see women following this tradition, but to say that it is obligatory or required is just plain false. If the Church modified Canon Law in the future it could become required again at some point in the future, but currently is not. 🙂
 
SACRED CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
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DECLARATION
INTER INSIGNIORES
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Another objection is based upon the transitory character that one claims to see today in some of the prescriptions of Saint Paul concerning women, and upon the difficulties that some aspects of his teaching raise in this regard.** But it must be noted that these ordinances, probably inspired by the customs of the period, concern scarcely more than disciplinary practices of minor importance, such as the obligation imposed upon women to wear a veil on their head (1 Cor 11:2-16); such requirements no longer have a normative value**.
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No longer have a normative value, meaning no longer mandatory. It certainly doesn’t mean - like too many assume - that wearing the veil was “wrong”. It is still a beautiful tradition, and being liberated from the obligation. Sort of - and I don’t mean to digress - like the Friday fast that (at least in the US) is no longer mandatory the entire year, thus greatly enriching the merits and vivifying the devout life of those who still adopt it, certainly more, I think, than it would if it were followed because we have to, or even worse, if we were to disregard it despite its being mandatory (a small disobedience that becomes a fissure sufficient to lead to greater trouble).

As a man, I have the greatest esteem of the ladies who, not just in the E.F. but also in the Ordinary Form, follow this most ancient tradition and understand its meaning and spirituality, in a world of darkness whose principalities and powers have focused their attacks especially on them (but hasn’t it been the case since Genesis?). Perhaps not everyone is called to this sort of spirituality, of course, but I think that those who do have that calling present a wonderful testimony.
 
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No longer have a normative value, meaning no longer mandatory. It certainly doesn’t mean - like too many assume - that wearing the veil was “wrong”. It is still a beautiful tradition, and being liberated from the obligation. Sort of - and I don’t mean to digress - like the Friday fast that (at least in the US) is no longer mandatory the entire year, thus greatly enriching the merits and vivifying the devout life of those who still adopt it, certainly more, I think, than it would if it were followed because we have to, or even worse, if we were to disregard it despite its being mandatory (a small disobedience that becomes a fissure sufficient to lead to greater trouble).

As a man, I have the greatest esteem of the ladies who, not just in the E.F. but also in the Ordinary Form, follow this most ancient tradition and understand its meaning and spirituality, in a world of darkness whose principalities and powers have focused their attacks especially on them (but hasn’t it been the case since Genesis?). Perhaps not everyone is called to this sort of spirituality, of course, but I think that those who do have that calling present a wonderful testimony.
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And nobody here has said anything to the contrary. Just because we point out that it is incorrect to say wearing a headcovering is obligatory or required doesn’t mean we are against headcoverings or those who wear them. It just means we care about people accurately portraying the truth. 🙂
 
Why are there people here saying the Church requires head coverings when She clearly does not? :confused:
 
I completely agree 🙂 I am sorry if that article said otherwise, I only focused on the overall perspective it seemed to present.
 
Were heacoverings required in the past, I was under the impression that this was just a recent change?
 
Rico_S said:
From the article:

Perhaps a bit too far?
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WAY too far. Equating one’s choice not to wear a head covering - a devotion which is clearly no longer required, at that - with rejecting actual Church teaching in serious matters is overreaching, to say the least. To me, it shows a lack of understanding on the part of that writer.
 
Ruthcloud said:
Were heacoverings required in the past, I was under the impression that this was just a recent change?
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I think for a very long time it was just a pretty universal tradition, in many societies all women wore headcoverings all the time anyway. Eventually it became written into canon law as a requirement, but that was changed with the most recent version of canon law. It is not currently a requirement, although it is generally expected that those attending the EF will observe this tradition, and anyone whatsoever is free to do so if they wish.
 
stayathomemommy said:
There are a few older women at our church who wear veils. One homily our favorite pastor talked about how the Church never really said that it was OK to stop wearing head coverings. I guess it was a miscommunication, people started spreading this misconception that you didnt have to wear coverings anymore after vatican 2 and the Church never really spoke out to correct people. Anyway, he said that really woman still should. That got me thinking and reading about it. I think i would like to wear a veil? I might be self conscience at first but i think its really important too.

Anyway before i could come to a conclusion on what i was going to do my 6 yr old daughter pointed out one of the woman at our Church who wears one and said…I WANT ONE TOO! she walks around the house wearing one and being like Mary she says. One Sunday morning she was wearing her makeshift veil and wanted to wear it to Church and my husband wouldnt let her. So i researched veils and childrens veils. I sat down with her and explained that you can only wear a veil if you wear a veil over your heart and understand the role of a woman in the Church and in her family. She really seems to grasp it, she wants to practice being humble like our Heavenly Mother and i want to encourage it.

What do you all think about wearing a veil, either for yourselves or your children?? Do any of you wear one in a church where most of the woman don’t? Is that odd? I will be ordering veils for all our girls and myself this weekend and would love to hear your thoughts as well as what type and colors are most appropriate.

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I think it’s ok if you want to do it. I remember when we had to do it and personally I hope it is won’t become a duty again. When the girls forgot their head covering they would pin a kleenex to the top of their heads, looked really weird. It was fine when most people wore hats but not anymore.

For now I think veils would distract people and be the opposite of what people want them to be, to cover the hair so it won’t distract. I can get more distracted by what people wear than their hair anyway. Girls wearing short shorts and tight low cut atire. Our priest told us he doesn’t want to see knees and armpits. Some did not get the message though.

Some people say they like a church that is casual so maybe making them dress in their finest would chase them off. I know the priest needs to remind people once in awhile that Jesus is there and we need to show reverence but that may be all he can do.
 
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